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    Rising temps on my 5793

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by jaredmccoy, Mar 21, 2010.

  1. jaredmccoy

    jaredmccoy Notebook Consultant

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    Recently my GPU idle temps have gone from 41-42C to 45-50C. If I turn the fans on high it cools right down. I've taken off the case and cleaned and everything. Could the thermal paste need replacing? I just applied some when I put in a new 8800m gtx several months back.

    That's why I'm so concerned with the temps...don't want another one failing.

    Also, what are acceptable HDD temps?

    Thanks
     
  2. Soviet Sunrise

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    Is the weather getting warmer in your region? Are you using your notebook on the same flat surface as your previous observation?

    Anything under 55*C is safe for your HDD. For the M570RU, it is unusual to see HDD temps breach 50*C.
     
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    It's on the same flat surface. It has been getting a little warmer as it is spring. I use speed fan which I know isn't built for notebooks...but the other one (forget the name) that is really popular I never figured out how to configure.

    My HDD temps are around 55C according to speedfan. What can I do to lower the HDD temps. Kicking the fans on high does not seem to help.
     
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    How much is "a little warmer?" 5*C? 10*C? Give me the temperature that you are reading off the thermostat in your room or any form of thermometer.

    Download HWMonitor. It's not as detailed as SpeedFan, or an all in one kit like HWiNFO32, but it does what it's supposed to do in a small and simple package.
     
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    "a little warmer" is about 3-5 F in the house. That's all.
     
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    Okay. Regardless of the baseline temp, a 1*C change in temp should not affect your idle temps like that on the hardware level. Have you recently changed anything on your OS or installed anything visual eye candy that may require cycles from the GPU?
     
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    With fans on full blast for about 10 minutes my GPU is 39C, both cores 26C,
    ACPI 37C, and HDD 53C.

    There isn't a fan or heatsink for the HDD is there? So what could be causing that?
     
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    No have not touched or installed anything at all.
     
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    The only thing that is nearby the HDD to saturate heat away from is the mounting bracket for it. It's the thin sheet of aluminium that holds your HDD down to the chassis. You can always mount a plate of aluminium or copper to help bring temps down a bit.

    If you can, I want you to run a HDD stress test for me. Download HD Tune and run a full error scan. This will thrash your HDD as well as double as a fault check. It your temps aren't getting much hotter from 53-55*C, then that means that your HDD is being accessed more than what would be considered idling, and that you will need to start cutting some background apps to reduce idle HDD overhead.
     
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    It's still scanning my HD but its up to 65C. Opened up my case and cleaned everything and reapplied AS5 to my CPU and GPU. While scanning HD and surfing the web my GPU is right at 49-50C.
     
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    Okay, you can stop HD Tune now. You just have a really hot HDD I guess. What model is it?
     
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    Seagate Momentus 7200.2 ST9200420AS 200GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache 2.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Notebook Hard Drive

    It peaked at 66C and after I put the fans on high for a bit it dropped to 53C but no cooler. I saw a mod on here somewhere where someone drilled a million little holes in the bottom part of the case to help with cooling. Should I try doing that over the HDD?
     
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    From now on, if you can, try to avoid pushing your HDD temps over 60*C. Both hyperbolic and I have modded the HDD bracket on this chassis with good results, and you should be able to get the best results as you are trying to cool a hotter HDD. http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=416414
     
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    Do you make all of the copper components yourself?
     
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    Err sorry read your cooling thread more thoroughly. I've never done any work like that before. So you can order the heat spreaders and copper blocks online? Do they need to be a certain size? And is there any special type of thermal tape you have to use over another?

    I took off my back plastic cover and let it run a while on my xpad and that made a HUGE difference in temperature. I understand messing with the airflow can be bad, but based on that could just drilling holes into the plastic cover help?

    Your mod is obviously GREAT but I have little experience working with cooling systems so anything that is simple to do I'm all for trying first.
     
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    All the equipment, tools, and materials can be ordered online. The number one goal here is to get the blocks to fit the narrow clearance inside of the notebook. I believe I used 8mm, 5mm, and 4mm blocks. The thermal tape is used to keep the blocks bonded to the existing heatsinks. Sekisui makes the best adhesive bar none. Radial fans suck in air in a "kitchen sink," tornado like fashion, meaning that CFM will be drawn not only from the intake above, but from the sides from inside the notebook. I experimented the mod on G51 users in this thread. http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=414147

    Your goal is to get your HDD temps low. What I suggest you do is follow hyperbolic's mod and shape a sheet of copper to match the existing HDD bracket. Then shove a 0.5mm sheet of thermal pad between the bracket and the HDD. Then mount a large copper plate ontop of the bracket and drill out holes on the backpanel over your HDD to allow passive ventilation.