SAGER NP8678-S (CLEVO P670-RG) (just bought... Need help)

So.. I can't find any reviews on this thing.. It has an I7 6700hq and a 980m 8gb card.. Which i was happy about until I found out i couldn't upgrade anything in the system so I just want to make sure it will hold up for gaming for awhile... $1700 worth..

Also I'm curious on overclocking for this laptop.. I've never owned a 6000 series cpu laptop before and first time having the 980m so I know it will be fast but I would want to get more out of it, can this laptop accept any bios mods like prema? And can the 6700hq be over clocked at all?

Heat... I was looking at a similar model with a 4700hq and 970m the gpu was very cool... Buy cpu was about 85c which is crazy Hot to me.. Is the 6700hq alot cooler? And Im guessing the 980m will be okay.

The ips panel and gsync seem nice... Ddr4 2133mhz 16gb ram.. With 850 evo m. 2 ssd and 1tb hdd.. Are alright aswell.


I know this post sounds confusing.. I'm just scared I paid 1700 for no overclocking capability sense everything is soldered down and no upgrade ability.. Although xoctic pc said pascal gpus might not even work with 900 series laptops... I think they will.. For mxm at least. Also i worry that the bios can't be flashed to an advanced unlocked one.. And prema mod will be amazing if I can get it for the 980m..but I was told if I try to flash back to office al bios.. I will brick laptop... Meh..

I mean.. Was this a good buy?

And if anyone may know of a review on this machine.. Please send it my way!

 

This is one of the better priced models with a 980m. A lot of the other manufacturers might be more around $2000ish (depending on configuration) for something with a 980m. Sager does have a pretty good value for the features.

There is no support to overclock the 6700hq in the BIOS like you would find on a 6820hk. The 6700hq does run a little bit cooler, is a bit better on battery life, and still a bit more powerful than a 4700hq. The cooling in that model is good for the most part.

$1700 is a big purchase, but it would still be a very capable machine for a while. It's not like you are looking at something with an i5 and a 950m graphics, it is still has some higher end components.

As for MXM, we are cautiously optimistic. We hope there is support, but we haven't heard either way as of yet. There is a chance they might not work in existing systems, but it will just take some time before everything is launched before we can find out for sure on which models might have compatibility.

For reviews, you might have to look for some on the p670SG or SE/RE models, as they are similar. Me personally, I like that model. I think it is a good bang for your buck, solid cooling, and still pretty good for other upgrades (ram, ssd, etc). Thanks for purchasing it with us, and if you need any help in the future, let me know.

 

Okay all this sounds really nice... So now I'm wondering.. Should
I get the 6820hk?.. Or would the 6700hq be fine? I'm just feeling afraid due to all 4 cores running at 3.1ghz... As long as the 980m isn't bottlenecked.. But even with a 6820hk what would it run at with all 4 cores? Am I able to set it to 4ghz with all cores? Which is crazy.

 

What are you using the computer for? If you are using it for some heavy CPU using programs, then I would go for it. If you are gaming, it could be nice, but maybe not necessary. For gaming, the processor generally won't be a bottleneck on the graphics card, at least at 1080 resolution.

Overclocking will vary from model to model. Even two different processors that come off the production belt right next to each other could overclock differently.

 

As long as you're getting a quad-core CPU, it's not going to be a bottleneck. My notebook has a 4970K and an unlocked BIOS for overclocking, but I've not felt any need to do so. The 980M performs roughly between the GTX 960 and GTX 970, which will have no problem running games at 1080p (and sometimes higher) for at least a couple more years.

That being said, if you can wait a few months until the new 1000-series GPUs start to hit notebooks, then it would behoove you to do so as the gains over the 900 line are probably going to be quite significant. But if you absolutely need a computer now, you won't be disappointed with the 980M. Before I got mine, my last notebook used a Sandy Bridge Core i7 2860QM and AMD Radeon 6770M, so it was quite the upgrade.

If the option is available to you, get your notebook with a G-Sync screen. My system doesn't have it built it, but I connect it to a compatible monitor. It makes a huge difference to playability as I can keep vsync on in games and not have to worry about lag should the framerate drop below 60. It will definitely help extend the life of your computer.

 

I mean... All I'll be doing is gaming pretty much.. I don't do any rendering or nothing intensive.. Maybe afew background programs.. But would you know if I can enable decidated gpu only? And what about.. Prema.. Bios for the 980m?

 

That system doesn't have graphic switching so the 980 will be active at all times. It kills battery life, but most people don't buy these large systems to carry around all the time. That's why I have a Chromebook and a Yoga 2 Pro for when I want to work off the grid.

 

So I'm forced to use intel hd graphics with the 980m? Or is 980m active at all times.. And what about 980m OC

 

You have no active integrated graphics, GSYNC disables that unless you turn it off in bios. Not really necessary. The 980m is weaker than the 970 be aware, but if you overclock it it should come close. By default if I remember right you should be able to OC it like +135MHz on the core.

 

Am I able to flash a prema mod bios to it? To make the limits of the 980m go higher.. Not that I will go crazy.. But if I can achieve... 200mhz or even 150 it would be nice. Also.. I worry about flashing because I think sense the 980m is on the board directly I have to flash the whole bios correct? Or does the card actually have a separate vbios that can be written to.

 

That sounds about right. Again, every system will overclock differently than the next. But that is a fair number on the OC though.

 

I more meant doesn't the default bios limit it to around there? Nvidia inspector by default will only let you go that high. I only got higher with things like the prema bios.

Pretty sure you can do just the vbios.

 

You can find more details at premamod.com for his available files

 

But i cannot find this specific model there... And I don't think this is a mxm gpu... Due to it being soldered to the board.. Unless it's a soldered mxm gpu

 

No such thing as soldered MXM gpu afaik.

 

Well I just read on the prema site that soldered gpus don't work... This is great...

 

That's because he has not publicly released it, he almost did and then someone deconstructed the files and starting writing poor how to articles after promising to keep it private.

 

So.. Where can I contact prema? To potentially get this v bios... I really wish to take advantage of the 980m as I will have this laptop for a great while.

 

I guess it's safe to say... I can't flash any bios to this laptop for further oc on the gpu

 

PM him or give him a shout out : @Prema

 

I pmed on tech inferno and here.. Hopefully reply soon.. Cause if I can't mod this bios at all. I'll have to get a mxm 980m model.