SAGER OWNERS/ INTERESTED BUYERS read this.

Hello all, so about a month ago I bought a sager np9380-s and this is what happened, its actually good because it taught me how to tune the graphics on nvidia SLI cards perfectly and keep them running cold and smooth

Here's the youtube video with the same text in the description: Metro Last Light Gameplay on NVIDIA 780m SLI SAGER np9380-s 4800MQ i7 - YouTube

Metro Last Light Gameplay on NVIDIA 780m SLI SAGER np9380-s 4800MQ i7 with readouts from MSI afterburner (FPS is lower due to video being recorded and compressed) usualy runs without overclocking at 120fps on a 120Hz 3D screen laptop cost about 3,000$ Samsung 840 pro 256GB + up to 4 HDs This thing is a beast. Both GPUs overclocked from 850 MHz to 941 MHz and vram from 2500 to 2654 Mhz. I think its really worth watching and a really nice part of the game rendered well with my new sager laptop enjoy!

FYI for those of you who are interested in buying a sager or have a np9380-s. I noticed that after one month of usage, due to being in a dusty environment like a desktop, my first 780m was reaching temperatures of 90 easily and cooling down by lowering the clock. however, soon after opening it i discovered that there were dense amounts of dust stuck in the fins of the copper heatsink which used to have better airflow to dissipate heat, now im running at a cool 35-48 !!!! under pressure about 70. both cards, my first 780m is now cooling even better than the second one. This is very important if you can do it, nvidia inspector helps a lot, you can modify specifically how you want the sli to work in every game and look up SLI compatibility numbers, I also modded the vbios of both my graphic cards to overcome a power shortage to the sli cards, if you have a sager and have stuttering in your graphics DO THIS.

Finally, to remove the dust, i had to blow air rapidly through the copper fins of the heatsink until all the dust comes out and the fan you're blowing in starts spinning fast and makes a whirring noize.

Long description, I know...Hope you actually make use of this

*SO SHORT AND SIMPLE NOW*
Here's all I had to do to tune my laptop to work perfectly with the SLI:

First of all: UPDATE THE VBIOS. if you're scared of flashing, fine whatever, but you should do it, im not telling you to take that risk under my guarantee, but the chances of it not working at this point in technology are ridiculously low. Let me finish this by explaining why you have to do this. The vBios on the GPU stock doesnt allow them to draw in enough power to function 100% so it stutters and flickers. Temperatures have to stay down and thats why you you do the next step and (Fn + 1 ) your sager to max the throttle of the fans until you press Fn + 1 and restart. The overclocking bios is a must the way I see it.

Second of all: If you know you're gonna run a game, and dont mind the noize, press Fn + 1 and behold the aformentionedly explained phenomenon.

Third: *Optional* Nvidia inspector to overclock the GPU's and monitor them and set a temperature limit and power limit and voltage controls. Not to mention MSI Afterburner to monitor anything you want with rivea tuner on screen in game display.

Step 3.5: Very important: if you install nvidia inspector and if you know what you're doing then i think you should. look up a tutorial on how to edit the nvidia profile of every game and make sure all the settings match your setup (you can also look up AA and SLI compatibility bits for specific games), for example i use AFR2 rendering for many games, a lot of emphasis on performance within the settings and I force the native frequency of the screen at 120Hz, then I change the quality however I like from inside the game.

Fourth: Also optional, but if you feel like your sager could cool better, you may be interested in trying the above first, then checking for dust or any reason your laptop may not be able to breathe air rapidly in and out or dissipate the heat from the cards with heatsink issues, sometimes its because the bottom surface where it sucks air in is obstructed. usually i make my laptop stand on something from its back; to allow for more ventilation. preferably, i keep it on my cooling master 3 fan pad.

 

When you blow compressed air trough the vents to clean them, make sure you block the fan from spinning. Excess speeds can accelerate fan aging and even cause some electrical problems (when they spin on their own, they may produce electricity which goes back on the components, thus can cause damage).

 

Ok I get that, but heres the thing, when I use this laptop, I feel like I'm using something that's built to last and has outstanding build quality which feels even better than driving my new mercedes. I was running it on 87-92C untill I fixed it and now its perfectly fine, even better than fine. and the thing with making the fan spin around, is to act like a mini turbo and assist with the airflow, like in fluid dynamic. Furthermore, the spinning of the fan allows the dispersal of all the dust with the air flow which the fan propels in the reverse direction. Thus ending up with my bed being covered with an unbelievable amount of dust coming from a single fan out of three which had accumulated dust.

 

Glad you fixed the temps, dust cleaning is definetely important for gaming notebooks. Just keep an ear out when you blow air trough the fans, if they start producing high-pitched noise, then thats not good.
Enjoy the machine!

 

Thanks buddy, I already heard that noise and referred to it as a whirring sound. I'm sure its fine if u blow hard and fast enough to get the dust out until the fan starts whirring and then u slow down and repeat again and again. It might get chokey and dusty so if you would like, get a compressed can of air and do it. would be better than any spit being blown into the laptop.

 

so you have a sager with 780m sli, good for you
now shut the up and stop giving retarded advice, a person with 780m can handle themselves

 

I assume anyone with a 780m can handle it themselves. But how about you shut up and not call this hardly known advice and demonstration retarded and appreciate the fact that I was just putting it out there for every sager np9380 owner what they need to do to get the maximum performance out of their device. So if you're just jealous you don't have one and don't understand the concept of benchmarking then shut the up and go away.

 

krizzjaa, come on man, you are a member here since 2011! There is no need for agression, we are all on the same team here. I suggest a calming tea with some brown sugar and a slice of lime in it, that makes everyone's day. I assume you are having stress at work (or elsewhere), relax and it will go away.

 

Now calming tea is a very good idea for stress. I think we should remember this when we're having a bad day.

 

Im eyeing your Alienware right now. I like what I see *slurrrp*.

 

krizzjaa might be irritated that first the post uses all upper case letters. This is considured yelling when posting online, and wasn't needed. Second, the thread title didn't say what the thread was about, but instead said for Sager owners or interested buyers to read this. Since we are in the Sager subsection, this is telling everyone to read this. This doesn't allow people that know the information, or that don't care, to skip it.

Glad you like your computer. Cleaning the dust out is something you will need to do periodically for the life of the computer. And as pointed out, it is best not to let the fan spin while blowing the air out. Keep gaming.

 

Thanks for all your wonderful replies. Ajnindlo I agree with you entirely, and btw I never intend to stop gaming Anyway the upper case was to emphasise not to yell. And I think every similar sager owner/ buyer should consider doing the four steps I mentioned to get the most out of their device, if they want to. Thats why I put a general title to attract readers.

 

Was there really a need to create this thread AND necro a 6 month old thread just to post the same thing again? People who spend $3000+ on a 780M SLI setup don't just decide to buy on a whim, and I'm sure if they did their research, they'll end up on this site sooner or later (like I did) and soak up all the information themselves. The information you provided, while useful, isn't exactly "hardly known", and I can assure you everything you mentioned in this thread I'd either read about, or experienced firsthand.

I mean I'm sure you have good intentions, but your method of execution could be a lot better.

 

Well, true, true, I was being kind of sloppy. I agree that the information isn't hardly known, but not always known altogether. Like you said, I was doing this with the best of intentions and I only hope that at least one person benefited from this information.

 

By the way, I was tweaking my overclocking settings for the GTX 780m SLI and ended up with three stable configurations. Keep in mind that this is in SLI and OC'ed on both cards. Even at extremely high demand, temperatures were always under the danger threshold and were almost never over 80 especially with Fn+1 enabled. Also note that I am using slv7's OC vBios also on both cards.

1. Default 850 MHz Clock 2500 MHz memory.

2. Overclocked 950 MHz Clock 2600 MHz memory.

3. Extremely overclocked 1010 MHz 2900 MHz memory +25 mV voltage offset, ie @1.025V

I had to slightly over volt the cards only in the 3rd configuration as they had stability problems at these clocks and 1V. I tested these with demanding games such as Metro LL and BF4 and the results are smooth. I did once try to go up to a much higher clock, but to ensure stability and longevity of my cards, this is as far as I am willing to go. I will probably game with the Default one most of the time, and Overclocked or Extreme for highly demanding games, but more likely overclocked.

 

So I've been doing this dusting routine on my Sager monthly so far because it seems to be necessary for my laptop to cool down more efficiently. Gaming too much with an open window seems to get too much dust through the laptops fans even though the window is all the way across the room, hell even the inlet vents are clogged with this dust. I've found out the best way to get rid of all this dust is to unscrew the fan covers and somehow get it out carefully with high air pressure or with some cotton buds.

Also, for those interested in getting even lower temperatures, this guy seems to know what hes doing, I've got a U3 cooling pad and am tempted to do the same plus some other mods he did: http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/757446-clevo-p370sm-sager-np9380-cooling-overhaul.html :thumbsup:

I could post some pictures of all the dust that was blocking the air flow at the copper fins and the vents, but that seems unnecessary.

I sincerely hope my fellow Sager owners benefit from this, I've been able to insanely overclock this beast and even got the best score of my processor overclocking using XTU on the stock setup, happy gaming everyone!

 

Fans are always generators when spun manually, it's just from design so they will always apply a voltage and this is why you should always not spin them manually.