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    SSD. Anybody else have boot in 5 Seconds?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by tommytomatoe, Oct 3, 2011.

  1. tommytomatoe

    tommytomatoe Notebook Evangelist

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    Just want to comment on how awesome the MALIBAL Lotus [Clevo P150HM] is. And especially now with a Samsung 128gb SSD as my main drive, Ubuntu boots in about 3 Seconds, and Windows in about 5.

    Sorry for the random off-topic.

    Thanks MALIBAL!

    On a different note, a real question. Has anyone notice a performance difference using the SSD as the root drive while using a HDD as the storage device? For example, I mounted /boot and / on the SSD, and /home on the HDD in Ubuntu. And in Windows, I made hardlinks with mklink /J with my User folder (Users/tommytomatoe). Any thoughts? Thanks,

    :)
     
  2. jclausius

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    My x7200 is at 13 seconds, but that is with a lot of Windows services in start-up - Intel RST, SQL Server, "Update services" for Java, Adobe, IIS, etc - 82 processes in all. Frankly not too concerned about differential of 5 seconds to 13 seconds w/ what is being loading.

    In regards to the SSD/HDD setup, I did exactly the same thing. For example, %USERS% and %TEMP% are junctioned to my HDD. No problems to complain about.
     
  3. NoPeace

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    On my old Studio XPS 16, I went from 17s average to about 7s average boot times from when I went from a 7200rpm HDD to a 120gb Intel 310. I'm very happy with my boot times on this laptop. I have a P170HM coming in the mail today and a 256gb Crucial coming tomorrow, so I'll tell you how they compare with each other and this laptop when I set them up. Though I'm expecting even better performance this this setup (faster drive + SATA 3).

    As for running the HDD for storage. If you have never used an SSD for storage then you wont notice any difference in using the SSD for boot and HDD for storage. Things do open slower on an HDD in comparison to an SSD but it's not that major. I've only noticed improvements with an SSD when opening large files on my SSD over opening them on HDDs. Though programs will open faster if you run them from an SSD over an HDD.
     
  4. ak-xs

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    my P150HM Clevo boots in 20-30 seconds how the hell do you get it down to 5? goes without saying that i need some of the startup services in windows, specially Intel RST being this a OCZ Vertex3 =x
     
  5. dabooosh

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    Can't speak for linux, but my windows 7 ultimate boot time is about 5 seconds as well. Absolutely loving this SSD and there is no going back.
     
  6. Anthony@MALIBAL

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    This doesn't seem to be an issue anymore, but at one time Nvidia driver updates would fail on drives with the C:/Users folder set with a sym link. It was an unusual thing, but fixed in later updates.

    Otherwise, I run the same setup on most of the smaller SSD's as well and it's the best way to go :)
     
  7. NovaH

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    We have a NP8130 running and tested the boot at an average of 9 seconds. :D Windows 7 Ultimate.
     
  8. tommytomatoe

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    Thank you for all your inputs everyone.

    Because I haven't ever used a SSD before on its own, I have no basis for comparison. But I know that the combo ssd+hdd is noticeably faster than the HDD by itself when running some programs (it could just be placebo effect). I also have the Temp folders of Windows 7 on the hdd like jclausius. While I don't play steam too often, I do have it on the hdd. I'll probably put the games I do play on the sdd and make a junction for it temporarily. Otherwise, most of my applications are on the ssd itself.

    There is definitely no going back. I might save up a bit and upgrade my iMac at home with an ssd also.

    One potential thing bad about this particular setup would be if one hard drive fails, you're kinda screwed for a bit. Other than that potential breakdown, I couldn't be happier.
     
  9. Tilt

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    +1.

    I've done quite a few steps in an SSD optimization guide, but I'm still at 30 seconds. Do I need to remove more from my start-up list which only consists of 11 items right now? Some other step that I have missed?
     
  10. DGDXGDG

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    whats your boot time after push down the power butten to the win7 animate appear?
    seems the time x7200 need is a lot longer compare to normal laptop........
     
  11. Ryan

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    I think they measured the time from the

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    and the welcome~

    to the desktop.

    That way, you get 5 seconds.

    There is absolutely no way you can get 5 seconds from cold boot, counting from the moment you press on the power button.
     
  12. terminus123

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    yea, and isn't the Samsung a SATAII SSD? from startup my SSD boots in around 10 sec
     
  13. tommytomatoe

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    Yeah I prolly should have been clearer. I count my time from when I select the OS from the bootloader screen. I use grub2. But if you count the initial screen from the press of the power button, we're looking at around 10-12 seconds. Sorry for all the hooplah. Lol. I'm not aware of the official way to measure the boot time. I always count from the selection of the OS from the bootloader. Since I never use Windows until I received my p150hm, I always used grub2 or chameleon to boot. And yes, the Samsung is SATA ii. I was a little disappointed at first but its performance is incredible never the less.
     
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    There is a program called " boottimer" that can be used to check your actual boot time without counting in your head (one one thousand, two one thousand, lol!). With all services running, my NP8170 with all services enabled boots into Win7 x64 Ultimate in 10 seconds. If I turn of non-essential services, i can cut the time down to 7 secs.
     
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    I've gotten 7 seconds with only MSE starting, but I can't get it any lower. That's according to Boot timer, as well, so it's not the time of a cold boot.
     
  16. jclausius

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    Yeah I should have been clearer. But Ill try the boot timer program later today and post teults.
     
  18. dave1812

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    :) Instead of bragging about how quickly our cars can get from zero to 60, now one talks about how fast their machine can boot into Windows. :) My, how times have changed.

    j/k don't anyone get bent out of shape. I'm just being silly.
     
  19. ak-xs

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    ok i feel more relaxed now xD

    what i find interesting about my cold boot time is that if i levae my SteelSeries XAI mouse pluged in any of the USB ports it delays the boot some 30-60 seconds and i have no idea why...

    my guess is that the laptop is actually trying to check if it can boot from the mouse, which is an epic facepalm moment...
     
  20. Hubris2

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    My laptop takes a ton more time when it's on the dock, connected to a USB Creative X-fi and a USB external hard drive, webcam etc....probably 15 seconds or more in added time over booting standalone.
     
  21. J.P.@XoticPC

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    It might go without saying, but did you check to make sure your computer isn't trying to boot to USB drives first? Sometimes that can slow the boot process down a lot :)
     
  22. Hubris2

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    That would be a reasonable assumption :) I think it has more to do with the USB Creative X-Fi, I don't normally have USB drives connected, and I'm talking about time sitting at a 'Windows loading' prompt, not trying to locate a boot device. I think it's just more drivers and services loading with more toys attached.
     
  23. tommytomatoe

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    Okay. Update. Using the Boot timer, I timed Windows to boot in 14 seconds from a cold start. So that seems more like what everyone has been getting. Still, 5 seconds from the bootloader selection is purdy good for me :)

    lol I think the same thing all the time. What nerds we've become.
     
  24. jclausius

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