Sager 5760 (aka Clevo M570U) Announced!

Product Review with an ATI X1800XT 256mb Video Card: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2006/04/14/rock_xtreme_ctx_notebook/1.html
(Please note that most 5760's now have the Nvidia 7900GTX 256mb as the default video card)


Recommended Resellers Product Page:

ISTNC.com Clevo M570U

DiscountLaptops.com Sager 5760

PowerNoteBooks.com Sager 5760

PCTorque.com Sager 5760 - no longer selling laptops
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Ratings via Reselleratings.com as of 04/04/06

Company Name: 6mth Rating/Lifetime Rating

Alienware ---------- 5.89/7.33
Dell ----------------- 2.75/4.37
Discountlaptops ---- 9.89/9.98
Falcon Northwest - NA/8.75
Hypersonic--------- 6.19/8.45
ISTNC -------------- 9.79/9.95
PCTorque ---------- 10.0/9.93
PowerNotebooks --- 10.0/9.99
Sager --------------- 6.67/5.0
VoodooPC ---------- 8.91/9.53​

Links to Notebook Bag Makers, Dealers and Reviews - You know you will be getting one if you don't already own one ​

NOTES:

• Pre-orders for the Sager 5760 (aka Clevo M570U) is now available!
  
  
• Sager NP5760 w/WUXGA screens begin shipping on 5/30/06, and the WSXGA+ screens will begin shipping on about June 7th.
  
  
• 7900GTX 512mb option will be available as early as July with an estimated cost of $50-100 for upgrade.
  (This is ONLY an estimate and may change as needed)
  (Shipment date and final cost currently not available)
  
  
• ALL Sager 5760 WUXGA+ models will come with a $100 discount on for Pre-orders made by May 31, 2006.
  (Sager 5760 WSXGA+ models will only have $40 off)
  
  
• The Expected price drop of the Core Duo on May 28 is already calculated in most resellers pre-order page.
  
  
• The Sager 5760 (Clevo M570u) does support 4GB DDR2 667mhz RAM (2x2GB)
  (At this time the availability and cost of the single stick 2gb RAM is really not cost effective. why most resllers do not have this option available)
  (ie: 2x2gb RAM can cost around $2,000 at this time!)
  
  
• A 2nd battery plugged in at the same time is ONLY compatible with the ATI X1800XT vid card at this time.
  Nvidia go7900GTX not being compatible w/ having a 2nd battery plugged in at the same time has been reported by Powernotebooks.com & RockDirect.com.
  
  
• Clevo has finally put the M570U on their site:
  http://www.clevo.com.tw/products/M570U.asp
  
  In the supported processor list, the Core 2 Duo is documented:
  
  Intel® Core Duo Processor T2300~T2700
  　(1.66~2.16/2.33GHz, 65nm, FSB667, 2 MB L2 cache, 478P uFC-PGA package)
  Intel® Core Solo Processor T1300/T1400
  　 (1.66/1.83GHz, 65nm, FSB667, 2MB L2 cache, 478P uFC-PGA package)
  Intel® Core 2 Duo Processor T7200 /T7400/T7600
  　 (2.0/ 2.16~2.33GHz, 65nm, FSB667, 4 MB L2 cache, 478P uFC-PGA package) 2
  Intel® Core 2 Duo Processor T5600
  　 (1.83GHz, 65nm, FSB667, 2MB L2 cache, 478P uFC-PGA package)
  
  [*] Upgrade from Yonah to Merom has been confirmed to be possible without a need for a BIOS upgrade or anything else.
  
  
  
• How to add Bluetooth in your Sager 57XX aftermarket: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=33715&highlight=bluetooth

HOORAY!

PS:
If I miss any info and/or you want me to add new info in this post, please reply to this post here or PM me.

 

This is great news!!!

 

<Grabs Wylde's arms and dances and sweats profusely>
PCT is my primary choice to buy from.
From all the laptops they have sold, they had the best overall deal.
I wish they do the same for the 5760
But this is in fact good news as this means other resellers should have this model in their product page very soon!
Meaning more choices of resellers to choose from.

My guess would be that all the resellers will start shipping this model around end of May but more than likely around 1st week of June.
I am confident enough to say that June is the best bet for this models to be rolling out though

I will be constantly checking out PCT's product page everyday from now on even more lol.
Cannot wait to buy this baby and then post a review about it

Best thing will be playing BF2, F.E.A.R., Oblivion and whatever game I have while I am at work once I get it around June <hopefully>

 

Thank you very much for posting that. Glad to see the Go7900GTX 256MB is the standard graphics option.

That's pretty light for a 17", just as the original 5720 was - 8.35 lbs. Kudos to Clevo for an excellent design.

Chaz

 

UPDATE:
I just got an Email from DiscountLaptops.com

This is what they have told me:

SO I talked to Matt of DiscountLaptops on the Phone and thsi is the additional info he just gave me.

• DiscountLaptops.com Product Page for the Sager 5760 (aka Clevo 570U) "should" be up by tomorrow afternoon.
• The $100 Pre-Order discount will end by May 31!
• Shipping will be FREE for this Pre-Order!
• Their Extended Warranty & Accidental Warranty is priced universally on all their laptops.

I even asked him for a quote on the system I wanted and this si what he told me:
5760 I want:

Display: WSXGA+ (1600x1000)
CPU: T2500 (2.0ghz)
RAM: 2gb DDR2 667mhz (2x1gb)
HDD: 100gb 7200RPM SATA
GPU: Nvidia go7900GTX 256mb
Optional: BlueTooth
OS: None
TV Tuner: None

TOTAL = $2,702
- $100 Early Preorder Discount
NEW TOTAL = $2,602

Optional Warranty:
1/2 yr Extended Warranty = $50/100
1/2/3 yr Accidental Damage Protection = $100/200/300​

Is it noticeable that I am way overly excited about this?

 

5760 I want...
Display: WSXGA+ (1600x1000)
CPU: T2500 (2.0ghz)
RAM: 2gb DDR2 667mhz (2x1gb)
HDD: 100gb 7200RPM SATA
GPU: Nvidia go7900GTX 256mb
OS: Windows XP Pro w/SP2

They say within the next 6 weeks, Intel will be lowering the prices on their current crop of Core Duo's with the release of the new 2.33GHZ (T2700)...
I can't wait to play WoW and HL2: Epsiode One, among other games on the new laptop.
Killim, I'm sure you'll get yours before mine so I readily anticipate your review.

 

Oh, really? I can't tell.

Yes, the Core Duo prices will be dropping in June, so if you're thinking about getting the 5760, you may want to wait if you plan on ordering one of the high-end processors (i.e., T2500/2600). It won't ship until then anyway.

Chaz

 

The Intel Core Duo pricing will drop on May 28th. That is why so many of the new Core Duo models are not releasing until just after that.

The new Sager NP5760 will go "live" tomorrow at 6 PM Pacific Time and the ETA for the first shipment is June 7th.

We don't offer free shipping, but we do offer Lifetime 24/7 technical support. Since they both cost about the same, which one is more valuable to you?

 

by how much will the price drop after may 28 considering new sager. i also wander why resellers have already their prices and not selling the laptop by june if the prices are going to drop. it is better to wait till end of the month than waste your money right now. am i wrong? i dont really need to be the first one to own/preorder sager if i have to pay more for it right now.

 

Since the new Sager NP5760 won't start shipping until June 7th or so, the Intel price reduction has already been figured into the price.

Intel drops their prices 3 to 4 times a year, so resellers are used to it, and so are most buyers.

 

This is excellent news.
This gives us, the consumers, no reason to buy at a later date and should hav no worries buying them as early as possible

Also happy to hear that the top resellers are going to be having the Sager 5760 (aka Clevo M570U) at around the same time!
This gives us, the consumers, a great choice!
Can't wait to gt my VERY 1st laptop by June

 

UPDATE:

The $100 off for Pre-ordering of the Sager 5760 (aka Clevo M570U) by May 31 is a Sager Promotion and all Sager resellers will be offering it!

OMG
To get the 7900GTX 256mb M570U in June or wait another 1-2 months for the 7900GTX 512mb?!?!?!?
GAHHH.

I have a weird feeling this will make my laptop to just over the $3k mark if I gt the 7900GTX 512mb and I heard it will only give you a 10-20% performance boost.

Tough choice.

Chazman, Help me.

 

Tough to say . . . I used the 512MB version of the Go7900GTX in the Dell XPS M1710. I play games most of the time on either my 256MB ATI 9800XT or 256MB ATI X700. Did I notice the difference? Well, of course it was faster than anything I had, but it's not like I ever had a memory limitation with a 256MB card that limited my gameplay. A 256MB GPU is fine for any current game. A 512MB GPU will come in handy if you are running at extreme resolutions, and if you are using Ultra settings in Quake 4/ Doom 3 or High Textures in Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter. There aren't a lot of games that use or need more than 256MB of VRAM. CoD 2 is another that will use 512MB.

Is it worth the 1-2 month delay and extra cost? In my opinion, if you have waited this long and need a computer, get the notebook with the 256MB GPU. I can't see how the potential (you won't always see a performance increase) 10-20% boost could make it worth the wait. The Go7900GTX is incredibly fast.

As I said, it's not like you are going to have any problems running the latest games.

Chaz

 

NO MORE CHOICES!!!!!!

Seeing as this laptop is gonna have to last me a few years, I guess I might consider waiting for the 512mb GTX unless it's gonna be rediculous in price.

 

Thansk for teh response Chazman.

I took the liberty to check a website that has BOTH the 256mb and 512mb 7900GTX option in their laptops for a quick comparison.
Of course at this time the only company that has it is Dell with their M1710.

The price for the 256mb to 512mb 7900GTX upgrade from Dell = $399.
I would guess that the 512mb option for the Sager 5760 will be near that price as well, maybe cheaper by a few bucks.

I think I will take Chazman's suggestion and only get the 256mb version.
My original budget was $4k but it has reduced itself to $3k after I bought my 3yr old a bunkbed.

I am guestimating that I should be able to buy this laptop with the specs I want and the Extended & ADP warranty for under $3k if I go for the 256mb 7900GTX plus some change to take my family out to dinner, a nifty Kensington Contour backpack and a Razer Copperhead mouse, and possibly just enough for a Wireless Router and card.

Think the ONLY reason I may wait is if they announce an option fo the ATI X1900XT as an option

 

Not meaning to make your choice any more difficult, but since I happen to also be pricing these laptops I know that for $399 at Dell you get BOTH an extra 256 MB of video RAM and jump from the GS to GTX version. The GS -> GTX jump is almost certainly more expensive (and more noticable in terms of performance) than the extra video RAM.

It is very hard to find an apples to apples comparison

 

R1rider is correct - the Dell XPS M1710 has options for the Go7900GS and the Go7900GTX. The difference there is much larger than the 256MB vs 512MB Go7900GTX. The GS is about 12% slower than the Go7800GTX.

I don't know how much I would be willing to shell out for the 512MB version.

Chaz

 

On a related note, how easy is it to buy GPU modules? Normally they are only available through system integrators/vendors as part of a laptop, but I think the M570U is supposed to be easily upgradeable. That isn't much use unless you can buy the parts seperately...

Since it seems that the 7900 GS/GTX/GTX(512MB) are relatively interchangeable on some laptops, perhaps it would be feasible to replace your 7900 GTX with the one with more memory later (and probably at a much lower price if you wait a year or so)

 

I didn't even notice that.
I should have read the options better in the Dell site.

I cannot even find a price for a 7900gs anywhere ....

I guess its time to contact some resellers and ask them how much will be the price difference from the 256mb to 512mb to see if it will be worth the wait or not.
But at this time, I am trying to convincing myself that 10-20% in performance increase is not worth the cost ... and the wait.

I kinda need a Laptop ASAP for my summer school this June, and mostly for gaming at work

 

Well DiscountLaptops just updated their website and NOW have the 5760 as a pre-order.

At this time, you somehow will pay more if you get the WSXGA+ (1600x1000) vs the WUXGA+ (1920x1200) by $60.

Here are the direct links for ISTNC.com and Discountlaptops.com.

ISTNC.com Clevo M570U

DiscountLaptops.com Sager 5760

PowerNoteBooks.com Sager 5760
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Will include PCTorque.com once they have their sites updated.

<EDIT: added PowerNoteBooks.com Sager 5760 product page>

 

Only count on the card being interchangeable with the 5760 . . I'd never buy a laptop and plan on upgrading the GPU down the line. Get the GPU you want when you order it. The card is swappable though, so I'm not demoting that fact.

Kilim, thanks for the links.

 

I just added Powernotebooks.com product page for the Sager 5760.
Now just waiting for PCTorque.com product page for the 5760.

Also edited the original post to have the aditional info that we just acquired.

 

PowerNotebooks.com is the best place to get it in my opinion. Glad to see they have it up.

What you get for the money with them is more than other places (so far). For $2.097:
-Go7900GTX 256M
-17" WUXGA
-Duo T2300
-1,024MB DDR2-667
-80GB 5400RPM SATA
-DVD+/-RW
-Intel 3945
-No OS/Bluetooth

Discountlaptops. For $2,097:
-Go7900GTX 256MB
-17" WUXGA
-Duo T2300
-512MB DDR2-667
-40GB 5400RPM
-DVD Combo (CDRW? Doesn't say)
-Intel 3945
-No OS/Bluetooth

Upgrade prices for all resellers are very resaonable. T2500 upgrade for $100 (compare to some $200+ mainstream manufacturers), 100GB 7200RPM for $75, XPH for only $70. (PowerNoteobooks).

Chaz

 

Here is another article about 256mb vs 512mb GPU for us to dwell on until we get an answer on the cost for the upgrade.
http://www.pureoverclock.com/article33-6.html

As for PowerNoteBooks.com.
Yes they have a great rating and all.
But I have a 3 yr old and I think I may "need" the ADP.
Also, I have heard not so great reviews with dealing with the Philips Magnavox Extended Warranty that cost $360!
Considering that it is almost a $3k investment, an extended Warranty and ADP should be a must, specially because I have a 3yr old running around my apartment.

If I don't need Extended Warranty or ADP, PN is definitely my pick.

 

Here is another review as well:
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/call_of_duty_2_performance_ati_nvidia/page2.asp

The 256MB vs. 512MB does make a difference, but don't forget that a lot of those games that can use 512MB of VRAM (Quake 4, CoD 2) also have patches that enable SMP, or use of both cores on a dual-core processor. Normally, a game would utilize only one. There are big performance gains there, I can see a very noticable difference even on my Pentium 4 3.2GHz w/HT. That should help accomodate for the performance loss of a 256MB card vs. a 512Mb one.

I can see why you need the Accidental damage protection - definitely worth it to protect your investment.

Chaz

 

Thanks Chazman.
This website and you alone has helped me so much and learned so much from.

So far it looks liek you may be right again.
None of those reviews of 256mb vs 512mb has included Dual Core I belive.
this may help alot

Also, I notice that for a 1600x1000 reso, a 256mb GPU should handle what you give it nicely.
I think at the 1600x1000 reso the 256mb GPU only lost by 5-10fps anyways.
And doing that at above 30+FPS at max settings.
I think you told me that the human eye can ONLY see 30fps anyways so that good news
At 1920x1200, it will tax it soem more and may actually have the 512mb GPU more beneficial.
Of course this is according to the Article I just linked above.

Also another reason I want a WSGXA+ (1600x1000) reso for laptop I just remembered.
I think soemone posted that the WSXGA+ LCD is built by LG and the WUXGA+ is built by Samsung.
And there has been a few others that complained about teh WUXGA+ in the long haul and the WSXGA+ is supposedly a better quality LCD.
I don't have teh exact link of teh post about this.
Its just mostly forum posters stating their remarks on the experience taht they have with their systems.

 

You will notice that at PowerNotebooks.com the WSXGA+ screen is actually $40 LESS. I am sure Discountlaptops.com will correct their pricing as soon as they discover the mistake.

 

Kilim, WSXGA+ resolution is actually 1680x1050

 

Also, the 512MB version of the nVIDIA GeForce Go 7900 GTX will become available in the Sager NP5760 sometime in early July. However it will not be available while the Sager $100 Pre-order promotion is in effect, and while the price has yet to be determined it is estimated at $50 to $100 more, so the upgrade cost will be somewhere between $150 and $200.

 

Hmm.
If you guys expect the 7900GTX 512mb to be only at most $200 more, I may just have to hold onto the trigger and wait.

**** it, I was subconsciously hoping that the 7900GTX 512mb upgrade will cost ALOT more so I can justify that for not getting it lol /cry.

When do you guys think the Pre-order for the Sager 5760 w/ 7900GTX 512mb will be available?

 

I doubt the Pre-order will ever be available because the the NP5760 with 256MB will be shipping in the channel.

The best estimate of price and time are as I said in my previous post. However be aware that the reason the 512MB option is not available now is that there are technical difficulties. Have you ever tried to estimate how long it will take research and develpment to fix something?

I have been in the laptop business for enough years (we are beginning our 8th year!) to know that these release date estimates are rarely met. It could be early July, or it could be early September.

Remember all the flack about the release of the ASUS Z70Va that was supposed to happen in late June last year, and it was finally released in mid-September?

 

Understood.
I just hope you guys are able to make the estimated deadline for the 7900GTX 512mb, or maybe earlier
And I hope the extra cost remains about the same.
I guess this just gives me extra time to save up for the extra cost of the GPU in case it does incrase from the original estimate.
As this is more than likely going to put me a tad just above my budget.

I just want to buy it ASAP so the money I saved up for it don't "magicly" disappear into whatever my wife decides is importnat in our house/life

 

I guess it is another two months of waiting for me. For such an expensive laptop i want the best i can get in it, so ill wait for 512mb version of 7900gtx. i still have 2-3 more months before my need for laptop becomes really urgent. if by then 512mb gtx is not available ill have to buy 256. price increase between two is not that dramatic at all, not saying that in two months ill will earn some more $ hopefully.

 

the way things are going.
We may as well just wait for the Merom version of this laptop lol. /cry
But I don't think I can wait that long.
I already waited a year to finally get one lol.
I wait any longer I am sure my wife would have figured out a way to spend my money on soemthing

 

well do you really see a point of getting 64bit processor right now? i dont. who knows when memron laptops gonna be available. if it was available now i would probably buy it just to be future safe, but im not gonna wait for it next six months and than realize that there is not real use for it. but what about amd dual core mobile proc? when is it coming out. iam really curious about those.

 

What it all boils down to is that you're going to have to press the button sometime . . this is a cliche, but if you keep waiting for the next best thing, you'll never get a laptop. I think the one year you have waited for technology to improve has about reached its peak - we have dual core, super-powerful video cards . . the rate at which technology is going to improve now in comparison to the past year you've waited is leveling off. I'm not pushing you to buy anything, but all I'm attempting to do is get you to realize that there is a point where you have to say "this is good enough."
I could have stuck with my previous notebook and gotten a Duo/X1600 when it came out, in January or so, but I went for my 5320 - it was the best thing for me at the time, and it has yet to disappoint.

It's going to be released at the end of May as of right now, the 17th:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=53550

Chaz

 

you are right chaz, i am just saying that i can wait until end of july, not any longer, so i want to get the best thats available by then. if 512mb gtx is not available its not gonna ba a big deal for me.
as i read about amd proc, i guess it will not be any soon until amd x2 laptop is being released. i was definatelly going for sager anyways.

 

I kinda agree with the not a "need" for 64bit at this time.
Like I stated before in other posts, I am NOT planning to get Vista right away and probably will wait for the 1st SP to come out if I do.
Considering that in order to take advantage of 64bit technology you will NEED a 64bit OS.
So I really do not see myself having a 64bit OS for another year or 2 or maybe longer.

Maybe I should stick with my original plan of Pre-ordering next week for the 5760 and just be happy with a 256mb GPU.
Like I already stated in my previous post prior to finding out about its possible availaibilty of July and its cost.

From what I understand, 256mb is more than enough to play games at the highest settings at WSXGA+ resolution, the resolution that I want for my laptop.
(1440x900 reso is big enough for me as it is lol)
From what I have read in comparison with a 256mb vs 512mb is a performance increase of around 5-15 FPS at a 1600x1200 resolution and yet the FPS at this resolution in the test is way above 30+ FPS.
And like Chaz has mentioned, the human eye can only see 30FPS anyways.

Decisions Decisions.

Pre-order the 5760 w/ 7900GTX 256mb next week and:

• receive a $100 discount
• receive my laptop early June.
• Stay within my budget of just under $3k

Wait for the 7900GTX 512mb for the 5760 and:

• miss out on the $100 discount
• receive my laptop around July or later
• cost an additional $150-200 or more
• possiblity that it may not be available until AFTER July
• more than likely go pass my $3k budget by a few dollars.

I think after listing it this way, my wallet and common sense say get it next week.
But my desire says wait until July ...

 

Wait a minute.

The 512MB won't help your FPS one bit. The 7900 GTX with 256MB will already max out the FPS on any LCD (or CRT for that matter). The only thing the 512MB will help is the Shaders...the eye candy...and when you are going full tilt you probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference anyway.

Don't get caught by the Testosterone trap...paying $150-200 for 512MB just doesn't make sense unless you are interested in bragging rights...not performance.

My advice is to stay within your budget and don't be taken in by the "Marketing Hype"

 

Paladin, I do have a question for you...and I have been waiting for this machine for what seems like forever and will probably pre-order on Monday!!!!

Will you be offering 2x2GB dimms as an option (at a competively reasonable price)??? My plan at the moment is to buy w/ XP-Pro (to get the legal license), reformat, install FedoraCore5 and then use VMWare to create a 1.5GB VM for an XP re-install leaving 2.5GB on the Linux side...the professional side of my life is entirely focused on architecting / engineering a new Linux server product so it must be my primary OS (even w/ all the hassles of putting it on a new machine, I spend so much time on airplanes and in hotels that I can't afford to lose development time when away from the dev servers -- and I also need access to XP apps [like Visio & ugh!!! PowerPoint] that just do not work well under Wine) and the more memory the better for me....

And to the rest of the Forum readers (here and in the Linux silo), yes I will do the full benchmark-thing review of XP in a VM just to see how it stacks up against native OS-install BM's....

TIA for your help....

 

The simple answer is we don't sell to citizens of the Imperial Republic of Berkeley... ...just kidding of course!

There is no competitive price on 2x2GB SODIMMS at this time. They are almost impossible to find, and way too expensive to make any sense.

Unfortunately you will have to wait a while to get the luxury of 4GB, but within about 6-9 months it should be more available and priced more affordably.

In the meantime, won't 2GB get you by?

 

Re: IRofB -- I have the official tin-foil hat and everything ( http://zapatopi.net/afdb/#WHAT) -- just happens to be the place I live (and my characterization of it in my profile, I would hope, gives one a sense of how I perceive it as a domicile)....

2GB would be tough for me -- at this stage of SW dev I am grabbing 1GB right from the start for server managed memory (dev servers are "memory rich") and will not get to the point of true-sizing req's for some number of months....

In looking around on the net ( http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=2gb+ddr2+5300+notebook+memory+-%222x+1gb%22+-%222+x+1gb%22+-%222x1gb%22+-%221gbx2%22&btnG=Search) 2GB dimms do seem to be available at a not-unreasonable price-point (although I have some questions on the vendors -- not the big-5)...

 

Well, the Mobile Intel® 945 Express Chipset does support 4GB, so I would recommend getting the 1GB from us and then trying the 2x2GB. You certainly won't void your warranty by doing it, and as long as you get a return privilege with your memory vendor (of course your credit card will guarantee your ability to return it!) then you should be fine in case it doesn't work.

I wish we could sell you the book without any memory, but that can't be done. The 1GB piece is only worth about $100 though, so for your purposes you won't be losing much, and you could always sell it for under $100 in about 5 seconds.

 

most of those links seem to be for 2 gig "kits" which means that they are actually just 2 1 gig sticks.

 

Wanted to get to Paladin while he was still awake -- links have now (hopefully) been refined down to just 2GB DDR2 DIMM's....

And to Paladin, who responded while I was refining search term on Froogle, thanx!!! that is what I expected when I started doing my research after the RocketPC varient of the Clevo was announced in the UK....

 

Agreed. I didn't see one offering that was actually for 2GB pieces.

 

Edited link in post above w/ better link..here it is again for those following this orthogonoly --> http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=2gb+ddr2+5300+notebook+memory+-%222x+1gb%22+-%222+x+1gb%22+-%222x1gb%22+-%221gbx2%22&btnG=Search

Still not great but search technology still has a few years of maturation ahead of it...

 

Well, http://www.pcconnection.com/ProductDetail?sku=6785558&SourceID=k22350 seems to be the only one on the first page that is close to what you want...and it says it is proprietary to the HP/Compaq model, although that doesn't necessarily mean anything...but it is almost $900 per piece.

If that is affordable, then go for it...but if it is a little steep then just wait a few months and it will come down considerably.

 

Yeah, I know the memory is going to be expensive but that is what investor's are for and if it shaves even a week off of the product launch schedule by my being able to work during what otherwise would have been downtime it will have been worth it...

And, I just really want the Sager which is why I didn't buy a Dell or HP...

 

I checked out the HP/Compaq model, and it is pretty standard stuff. That memory could very well work.