Sager 5793 + X9000 review..

Have had this now for a bit, got it from Tony over at Sager. Chip I got elsewhere. X9000 ES version. This makes about my 6th laptop from them, have loved their laptops for around 10 years now. Tony is a great guy to deal with! Has made me many deals and let me have a lot of parts so I could mod away on the bottoms and heatsinks of my machines.

new bottom ...




regular insides ...



New fan plug talked about in an earlier post.. I'm already thinking about adding a fan to my bottom for this, but would not be much good without a heatsink mod. Perhaps the kick ass one that the guys over at KillerNotebooks have come up with. (no spam about Killer notebooks here please, be mature and polite.)




Bios screen with 1X and 2X selection.. These add just what you see to the multi.. So a default of 14x for 2.8ghz (200x14) you can add 1 or 15x or 2 for 16x. 16x being the obvious 3.2ghz. I have never used my chip at anything but 3.2ghz, and it runs fine. For some reason I cannot use CPUZ, so I cannot see any voltages or other info. There is also no voltage increase shown in the bios.



boot screen ...



Voila! 3.2ghz extreme chipper in Vista..




Bone stock at 3.2ghz within Vista with stock driver I got 9660 3dmark06, I have had a lot of trouble overclocking. The PLL is not really easy to manipulate. I discovered by accident a weird way to get it up. I'll explain later, but 3.36ghz gave me almost 10k in 06 without any vid card overclocking. Slick!

If anyone has any good method of clocking the PLL from Vista, or fooling with the video card clocks, please post here. Thanks!

BTW system is as follows..

5793
X9000 EE ES 3.2
4gigs DDR2
80gig HD
8800GTX
UWXGA
Robson 1gig

 

Ran 3dmark06 with processor at 3.47ghz and scored 10200..

[URL="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5248805[/URL]

Once I do some vid card clocking, I can see this machine hitting a smooth 10.5k or so!


I got the processor running at 3.6ghz, but 3dmark started to drop out to windows.. I suspect the chip needs a volt bump. Or the FSB is driving up the PCIXpress/mem. The temps displayed in coretemps were not that high at all while running 3dmark06 @3.6ghz. I was seeing around 63deg.

 

can u post game performance>?

 

sweet any one els notice that the motherboard looks exactly the same cooler wize as the NP5792... and that 3rd fan does not actually exist yet

im tossing up weather to try and some how get my Australian reseller to get the M570RU-U cases in stock or just risk it with a 5792 rather than a 5793 and see if a bios update is all i need to use the X9000 when i pop it in there in a year or so.


any new news?

 

The M57xRU-U is the 5793.

 

The 3rd fan can be introduced if necessary. That is what the modding does. Improve cooling by adding that vent and making room for a 3rd possible fan.

 

So the Sager 5793 with X9000 CPU is officially out now ?

 

Yes. Very official.

 

It is, yes. In stock and shipping starting today,according to Donald.

 

Cool. So it should appear on XoticPC in no time ? Price difference ? And cost of X9000 ? It's not showing up on SagerNotebook.com yet!

EDIT: XoticPC has it now!

 

Cost : ranging from 707$ to 780$. Quite steep if you ask me, that`s the price of a modern day laptop.

 

Yeah, too expensive.. Too bad. I'll pass. So does that mean the XoticPC is now shipping the new 5793 case WITH the new BIOS (if any) viz. version 5 or something as I heard ?

Damn... that's like some peoples budget for the whole laptop!

 

Exactly. The new 5. version will allow OCing from BIOS for the CPU,boosting with 400mhz, up to 3.2 ghz. Not much considering the supreme price.

Pass indeed.Maybe quad or octocores in mobile will be cheaper

 

So I only get the v.5 BIOS if I get the X9000, else the old 5792 with 5793 case (with 8800) ?

 

Actually, all new orders will receive the 5793 casing,regardless.

 

Yeah cool! But it's the new v.5 BIOS that makes the 5793 the 5793. So will I be getting the 5792 v.4 BIOS with 5793 case or the full official 5793 with the new BIOS ?

 

That is something that Donald or Justin can answer. However,I think the new BIOS comes also,seing as the 5793 casing is specifically upgraded for the extreme cpus usage and OCing.

 

Okay. And btw, who's Donald ?

 

Everything now forward is the 5793 with the
1) New Casing & Cooling
2) New Motherboard
3) New Bios allowing to OC the X9000 CPU

As eleron has stated everything shipping this day forward is the 5793. You will see it labeled as the Sager NP5793 now regardless of the GPU selection.

BTW, Donald is from PowerNotebooks

 

Thanks Justin!

 

aka Paladin44

 

Rev. 4.1 can also OC EX processors.

 

kaltmond, how much did your X9000 cost?

 

Can you give a CPU-Z screenshot of your X9000?

 

I would post a CPUZ, but it will simply NOT load up at all! I have no idea why either.. I tried modifying the ini file, different versions and all, but it will simply not load. I thought it was Vista, but tried the driver enforcement loading, still nada. Matter as fact, I'm open to suggestions..

Overclocking has been both fun and a pain in the butt.. PLL manipulation has not been easy. I did manage to get processor up to 3.62ghz, but pci express buss seems not locked as the processor was still cool, but windows gave me warnings of Robson malfunction. Either that or I'm going to have to lower the multi and try. I have it at nearly 3.5ghz for a smooth 10.2k 3dmark06. I have not yet figured out how to overclock the video card. open to suggestions for it.

 

I can open CPUZ @3.0G, 3.2G it won´t run.....

 

Just ordered my own sager np5793 from xoticpc today It should arrive in few weeks. I had a lenghty discussion with Justin the support was great. Hi answered all of my questions and I managed to get a small disscount too. He also promised to get on with my order right away if I added his name to the comments part of the order. So far its looking very good.

Here are the main specs of the laptop:

17-inch WUXGA (1920x1200) glossy widescreen
Windows Vista Home Premium 64-B
100GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA 150)
4GB DDR2-667
Nvidia GeForce 8800GTX 512MB
Intel Core 2 Duo T9300

ps. I'll try to get a review here after I get my hands on to this one.

 

Congrats! I can't wait to get my own laptop that's similar in config, with only a 250GB drive

 

Here is a CPUZ shot with my current overclock. I lowered the multi to 1x (for a 15x instead of 16x multiplier), then raised my fsb to 227 for a 3.4ghz clock. This seems to be better for games than 216x16 for 3.47ghz. Thanks for the suggestion Kaltmond on how to get CPUZ going!

 

can you make the picture smaller I can still make out some letters....

 

Heheh, yea i saw that, had to take an actual photo.

10450k 3dmark06 with fsb overclocking..

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5259481

Now if I could just work the video card clocks... Anyone have any success with the M8800gtx?

 

Since yours is an engineering sample, I'd be curious if you could do this kind of over clocking on a retail version.

Also, I saw this earlier saying that PC Microworks launched it like yesterday or something

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=219290

11k+ 3D Mark is sweet...

 

This seems really odd....this is another poster with a Engineering sample in their np5793 and yet when someone posted this a while back he was flamed of the boards....Even the review of the Np5793 was done with a engineering sample so what gives?

 

I dont know why, I just posted what you can expect from an X9000 cpu in your 5793.

 

You could have just taken a screenshot (print screen) than an actual picture
Again, if only I had the cash, I'd SO dump it on that processor.

 

Well @multi x16 CPUZ won´t run, but Everest will.

 

Nah its nothing against you it's just someone else had bought a laptop that had a ES processor and they seriously flamed him "not saying they should do the same to you" It was just really odd thats all. >.> ES seems to be freely tossed out and not that uncommon compared to what a lot of people said. Dunno I recall also reading that ES are really the cream of the crop so I suppose you should be glad you have one ^^.

Edit: I did some digging around and the information I found about my previous post is rather odd. It seems it would be better if I didn't push the issue.

 

I have found my laptop's sweetspot.. Seems 240fsb with the multi at 14x is the best. Gives me a final clock of 3.37ghz for a slick 10.7k 3dmark06.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5285707

 

That`s over the SLI mark of the 7950GTX and the 8700M GT....damn sweet results dude!

 

Yea if there was some utility to overclock the 8800M GTX I'd be easily over 11k!