Sager 5797 or alienware M17

Alienware M17

Video/Graphics Card: Dual 512MB ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 3870 - CrossFireX™ Enabled!
Processor: Intel® Core™2 Extreme Quad QX9300 2.53GHz (12MB Cache, 1066MHz FSB)
Chassis: 17-Inch WideUXGA 1920 x 1200 LCD (1200p) with Clearview Technology
Keyboard Options: Illuminated Keyboard – Alienware Exclusive Design - Astral Blue
Operating System (Office software not included): Windows Vista® Ultimate (32-bit Edition) with Service Pack 1
"Upgrade to Windows Vista Ultimate and get a FREE copy of Gears of War the PC Game!"
Notebook Tuners and Remotes: Without Media Center Remote Control or TV Tuner
Memory: 2GB Dual Channel DDR3 SO-DIMM at 1066MHz – 2 x 1024MB
System Drive: Extreme Performance (RAID 0) - 500GB (250GB x 2) 7,200RPM (8MB Cache) w/ Free Fall Protection
Optical Drives : Dual Layer Blu-ray Disc Reader (BD-ROM, DVD±RW, CD-RW )
Wireless Network Card: Internal Intel® Ultimate N 5300 a/b/g/Draft-N Mini-Card with MIMO Technology
The World's First 450 Mbps Wi-Fi Adapter!
Sound Card : Internal High-Definition Audio with Surround Sound
Warranty: 1-Year AlienCare Onsite Service and 24/7 Toll-Free Phone Support
Power: Additional Battery – 12-cell Lithium-Ion Battery
Alienware Extras: Alienware® Mesh Cap
Alienware Extras: Alienware® Mobile Binder
Alienware Extras: Owner Identification Card
Alienware Extras: M17 Protective Cloth Sleeve
Alienware Extras: M17 Keyboard Diagram Overlay
Avatar: Alienhead 3D
Window Style: Blue Window Style
Mouse Pointers: Standard Mouse Pointers
Wallpaper: Alien Schematic
Power Plan: Standard Power Plan
Automatic Updates: Automatic Updates On
Time Zones: (GMT - 5.00) Eastern Time (US & Canada)

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Chassis Color: Silver Trim
- Display: 17" Wide Viewing Angles WUXGA LCD with Super Glossy Surface (1920 x 1200)[+$95.00]
- Processor: 45nm Intel® Core™ 2 Extreme Processor QX9300 / 12MB L2 Cache, 2.53GHz, 1066MHz FSB[+$200.00]
- Video & Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce 9800M GTX Graphics with 1GB DDR3 Video Memory
- Operating System: Genuine MS Windows® VISTA ULTIMATE 32/64-Bit Edition[+$80.00]
- Memory: 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1066MHz - 2 X 2048MB
- Primary Hard Disk Drive: 320GB 7200rpm SATA 300 Hard Drive
- Optical Drive: 2X Blu-ray Reader/8X DVD±R/2.4X +DL Super-Multi Drive & Software[+$165.00]
- Wireless Network Card: Intel Wi-Fi Link 5300AGN - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Module
- Bluetooth: Internal Bluetooth V2.0 + EDR Module
- Intel Robson Technology: Intel 4GB TurboMemory Module[+$85.00]
- Primary Battery: Smart Li-ION Battery Pack
- Integrated Security Device: Fingerprint Reader
- Microsoft Office: Microsoft Office Ready with Free 60-Day Trial
- Warranty: Sager 1 Year Limited Parts and Labor Warranty with Three-Day Shipping Both Ways Paid
- Additional Battery Pack: BAT-5797, NP5797 Smart Li-ION Battery Pack[+$110.00]
- Carrying Bag: Standard Carrying Bag




which one should i get ?

thanks

 

My money is on the Sager mate.

 

m17x will crash 5797 in terms of performance.

 

I will stick with Sager considering after market support and quality.

 

The m17 with dual 3870s is the better option for performance. I assume you'll upgrade the RAM in that one yourself?

 

Are you guys serios?
That m17 has 2 video cards...
The 5797 stands absolutely NO chance against it..
Not too mention that the m17 has a killer look...
I loved my 5791, but when it was time to move on, I did.

Get the best deal!

 

Alienware M17

 

Price/performance: Sager
If you got over $4000 to burn for that extreme quad-core, go for the Alienware.

 

If I didn't miss anything, it's $4159.19 shipped. LOL at $253 and some change being tax.

Now my opinion; the M17 does beat out the 5797, but at +$1000 more, I don't think you're getting the performance increase that justifies the higher price. A set of cards that don't even beat dual 8800s just aren't worth that much money in my eyes.

Plus, dual GTX + a desktop quad can be had in the 9262 for less than even the 5797, and it spanks both of those setups easily.

The mobile Quad-Cores are the new hotness, but they aren't worth the cost yet.

 

What if you change the alienware m17 with force extreme 840(ocz whitebook)?that will make difference i think..

 

Neither. Get the whitebook (M17) from another reseller like XoticPC or DarkSmiley. Avoid Alienware at ALL COSTS!

 

Apples and oranges. I'd take the Sager just because of the support and community. In fact, if you are going to shell out that much for the Alienware just get the 9262 from Sager or the OCZ White Book from a reputable reseller.

 

I like single GPU systems, so I'd get the 5797, then drop an HD 4850 in when they come out. Quad plus that GPU is all you'll need for a couple years.

 

Except I'd say there's almost zero chance that the 4850 would work in the 5797

 

But why mang? Tell me why. I figured that since the 3870 works in the M860TU (confirmed by K|N), there might at least be a chance.

 

I'd say the 3870 works in the M860TU because when the M860TU was first introduced it was actually offered with the 3870. Then, for some reason (probably software-related?) Clevo decided to pull the support for the ATI card and it never saw the light of day.

The 5797 was never intended to have an ATI card whatsoever, so my money is on the belief that it won't be supported. However, I would love to be proved wrong

 

alienware m17 by a long shot... sager build quality is not all its cracked up to be... honestly.

ALSO GET A QUAD for GTA4+ newer games... i think its officaly Time to only get quads time.. (if u can afford it)

 

Im not sure what Sager/Clevo you have had or messed with but the one I have is excellent bild quality. Solid,firm and much better than most. What my problem is I have a spot on the bottom-left palm area. Is their a way to get rid of this or some type of touch-up paint/adhesive i can use to clean or modify this a little?

 

Ah, the dreaded palm stains. Don't know how to get rid of that other than a touch up or painting over the whole surface.

 

Wait for the OCZ Whitebook with the 48xx GPU.

 

Okay, I had to make this same decision, and originally ordered the M17. After much runaround and half truths from Alienware, I cancelled the order and placed an order for the 5797. So far from Sager I have recieved excellent customer service and a laptop that can run everything I've thrown at it, all on a duocore processor setup that allows me up to 2 hours of battery life.

This is just my opinion, but If I'm spendng that kind of money I would rather have a little less powerful laptop from a company I can trust, than the big dog on the block that I'm unsure of. My experiences with Alienware during my order made me uncertain that I can trust them. I've been involved with computers for 25 years, and I support them every day for my job. ALL manufacturers have problems occasionally, and I want to know that I can count on mine if I do have a problem.

Just my two cents based on my ordering experiences with both companies.

 

Hmm, well in that case, maybe I'll try to cram one into my M860TU instead :O

 

This seems like a typical problem from alienware that's why i am also hesitant to buy from them. I would take the sager but for a change the alienware is actually worth the money so it should be a toss up whichever you like

 

Forget the M17 then. Why not buy an OCZ Whitebook instead?

 

Do I read this right? For that price you can get a maxed 9262 and kick that alienware with its "blue lights" right in its little stink purse! Gimmicky garbage if you ask me.

 

just get an OCZ whitebook its much cheaper and a great bang for the buck.... although as a fan of the Np579# series. I prefered the nvidia graphic card over the ATI card, isnt nvidia graphic card better for gaming??

and also isnt the 9800m GTX superior to the DUAL AtI 3870??

 

You guys know that you can get the OCZ whitebook , right? It doesnt necessarily need to be the m17...

 

seriously get the ocz whitebook and build it. its SO MUCH CHEAPER.. almost half what alienware charges if you look for deals..btw make a few more posts so you can recieve pm's...sager is a great company but ocz will for sure win that battle.. they both have very good build quality prob the sager is a bit better.. but its not a huge difference at all

 

The dual ATI's are deffinately alot more powerful then one 9800 GTX

 

Vertcobra99's correct. However, a single 9800M GTX is more powerful than a single 3870.

 

ahh i see, thanks for the correct information... i was just confused lolz

 

Honestly, I'd go with the Sager for several reasons. First, it's a Sager, and I've had nothing but good experiences with mine. It's built solidly, and can take on any game on the market, and I only have a 9800m GT. Second, not many games take full advantage of quad core processors and dual video cards, so that's all in excess. Really, you'd be better off spending less on the Sager and having more money saved up when you want to upgrade to a new laptop.

But that's just my opinion

 

I`ll have to say it again, go with the best offer...

 

Here is a link to compare GPU's. I think the synthetic scores are a little on the low side since my 7950M GTX's in SLI get 8800 3dmark06.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html

I love my m9750 (same chassis as the M17) it's a rock solid chassis that I've toted all through the "war zone" in the middle east for almost two years and I haven't had a single hardware failure.

However, A.W. has by far the worst customer service I've ever had to deal with. Adding a second GPU resulted in them sending me the wrong GPU and three times they sent me the wrong GPU fan/heatsink. They also sent a fourth "wrong" GPU to the wrong address in another state. Many hours onthe phone and almost 3 months later, I was able to use my notebook again.

Needless to say I wouldn't buy from them again, but It's looking like my next purchase will be an OCZ Whitebook.

Unless you're looking for bragging rights, getting the absolute fastest isn't necessary. My antiquated M9750 runs all of the previously mentioned games very well.

I would take money from the top tier components and use it to get two OCZ Apex or two OCZ Vertex SSD's in raid0. SSD's in raid makes even a new notebook feel much better.

Rob41

 

Just thought I'd look up what you can get right now for about three grand.

Product Description

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 - Retail
Item #: N82E16832116469
$222.99

OCZ 4GB (2 x 2GB) 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Laptop Memory Model OCZ3M13334GK - Retail
Item #: N82E16820227351
Return Policy: Limited Non-Refundable 30-Day Return Policy
$15.00 Mail-in Rebate
$99.99

OCZ Apex Series OCZSSD2-1APX120G 2.5" 120GB SATA II Internal Solid state disk (SSD) - Retail
Item #: N82E16820227411
Return Policy: Limited Non-Refundable 30-Day Return Policy
$25.00 Mail-in Rebate
$738.00
($369.00 each)

Intel Core 2 Duo T9300 2.5GHz Socket P 35W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80576T9300 - Retail
Item #: N82E16819111001
$329.00

OCZ OCZDIY17A2DM88XTX2 Intel PM45 Black DIY Gaming 17" Screen Notebook
Item #: N82E16856172007
$1,699.00

Subtotal: $3,088.98

If it were me I'd wait for the 4870's and up the ante on the processor. I've been very happy with my purchases of OCZ products and their customer support is top notch, not to mention their great forums.

After having to deal with A.W. I now know that customer support and product knowledge is everything. IMHO

Rob41

 

Wait for the 4870s for the M17 or Whitebook Version and also look at the Clevo M98 18.4" notebook debuting this week at Cebit.

 

if you can even find a ocz 17" now. they are eol and are almost non existant anymore

 

Tis because they were pulled from the market.
For all of you who told everyone to buy one, and then for the OCZ to be pulled... care to explain? I mean, did flextronics just ditch the entire notebook?

For the record, I am a 5797 owner who bought the laptop because of the proven track record of Clevo, Sager, and XoticPC, emphasis on proven, not bleeding edge... that's just a fringe benefit.

 

Um, I just looked at new egg and looked at two different OCZ models with the 17" screen and 3870's in crossfire. They have a total of 60!

OCZ OCZDIY17A2DM88XTX2 Intel PM45 Black DIY Gaming 17" Screen Notebook 53 of these.


OCZ OCZDIY17A2-BM88XTX2 Intel PM45 Black DIY Gaming 17" Screen Barebone Notebook w/ Blue-ray DVD 7 of these.

Rob41