Sager 7970m Enduro question

In the following review:

Alienware M17x R4 Notebook Review - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

The text refers to being able to set an application to high performance in the catalyst control center. Have people having problems with poor performance due to the enduro switching problem tried this workaround and had it fail?

 

Obviously, yes.

That "workaround" is choosing which card will be running the application, the iGPU or the dGPU.

 

Right, but does choosing the card manually bypass enduro and actually run apps on the correct GPU?

 

no.. it... doesnt... thats the entire problem that everyone has been complaining about since may

 

Read through hundreds of pages complaining about it. Lots of mentions of not being able to turn enduro off for the whole system. Not one mention of being able to assign each application to a specific GPU.

 

because we exhausted that topic back in june

 

Not sure if cereal...

 

either that or else... well... ignorance is bliss

 

Here is a picture I made a while ago explaining it

 

I am looking at your schematic and I am wondering how precise it is. I have read that disabling parts of the igpu could still allow passthrough of the dgpu.
turn off GPU on new chips??

I have a p150em with a 7970m myself and I am beginning to think that Intel could solve this problem fairly easy if they wanted to. AMD made a graphics card that on its own kicks a.. , but the limiting factor IS the igpu - No one can deny that. No one are having low fps's or underutilization because the 7970m is not up to the challenge hardware- wise. Enduro is a half- assed solution for an enthusiast. What the f... do I care if my laptop has 2 or 3 hours of battery life ? No one really believes I bought this laptop as an ultraportable, so what's the deal ?
All in all, what it takes is a state- change on igpu - part is what I believe. Of course , some argue that this is exactly what enduro should do but I don't think that would be an entirely correct assumption.

 

I think AMD and Intel are fully aware of what the problem is and if it was a simple update or driver they would have addressed this a long time ago. It is pretty clear that it is a hardware issue and the only way to fix it would be to recall or RMA all laptops with the problem and that would be about as cost effective as Asus releasing the G73JH with thermal compound and a heatsink worth less than a cheese sandwich. Which they did.

 

Intel would never lift a finger to solve this issue, since it affects such a small customer base. As for AMD, Enduro issues haven't likely been a high priority matter, and a fix (if possible) might take quite a while. Just hoping for an acknowledgement that the issues are fixable, and will be fixed sometime in the not too distant future.

 

LOL are you guys kidding me? Intel doesn`t have any problems. Their CPU works perfectly fine. Very few notebooks have MUX switching, meaning there are a lot of Optimus notebooks without MUX with the exact hardware setup as EM series out there. And they don`t have the same problems as Enduro.

Now you do the 2+2

The responsibility to fix this rests on AMD shoulders alone. No one else.

 

There could be numerous reasons (either software or hardware) why Optimus works and Enduro doesn't, but i'm not qualified to speculate the differences between the two solutions.

Intel might be able to come up with a solution (it could have something to do with their drivers or smth) but it really shouldn't be up to them to solve the issue.

 

I'm pretty sure the m17x r3/m18x r2 don't use a dedicated mux. One of the big design features of Enduro/Optimus is that the iGPU acts as the mux.

AFAIK you can enable fixed graphics on a muxless computer but not dynamic graphics (in the form of Enduro/Optimus, at least) on a muxed one.

Considering Nvidia doesn't have the same issue, it's likely a problem on AMD's side.