Sager 9150 or Samsung Gamer 7?

Hey guys new to this forum, and i am TORN.. In about 2 weeks (when i get paid!!) i will be in the market for a new laptop. My laptop before was a Vaio NS-something. It was bought with mind for nothing more than web browsing, downloading music etc. everyday stuff. Played a little LoL (dota'ish) on it, and wow did it SUCK....i had to have ALL the settings to the lowest, turn off ALL the effects just so i can play at around 20fps(loll but what can i expect)..Down the road unexpectedly, the HDD went stupid..Black screen comes up and i cant do anything. So i decided to buy a new laptop, a BEAST laptop instead of putting money into fixing the "never-again" Vaio that is pretty much irrelevant now..My hands-down choice was the Sager 9150 w/ 95%NTSC Matte Gamut, GTX675(since i heard AMD7970m Enduro is a bit unstable), IC Compound, 500gbHDD, 8GBram, Windows 7. Comes out to about 1700. BUT...i came across another laptop with similar specs but a tad bit larger. The Samsung Gamer 7. In all HONESTY...i fell in love with the physical attributes immediately since all ive been looking at was the Sagers very minimalistic build (albeit was something i liked about the sager model too). Then i read the specs, 1.5TBhdd w/8gb SSD cache? 16gb ram?? gtx 675?!? and supposedly the screen is GORGEOUS..GORGEOUS!!(400nit..whatever that means.) that alone is swaying to get the Samsung Gamer 7 (since i will be using photoshop/cs6 etc). So after all this i REALLY REALLY need some help on which laptop i should go with. Both specs are pretty on par with eachother other than the fact that the gamer 7 will be a little heavier to take around with me..but nothing i wont be able to work around . So please, ANY help would be great! thanks guys.

 

The Series 7 Gamer doesn't seem to have changed price since release, and the components are now relatively dated. It is also a full plastic build, reportedly of poor quality. My advice is to wait for an update to the gamer (either in price or specs) or go with a custom NP9150.

Please also note that the Samsung is a 17.3" while the NP9150 is a 15.6" display.

EDIT: Amazon is having a pretty significant sale on the Samsung right now that brings it down to match the cost of a comparable NP9170. The advantage in the NP9170, though, is that you can remove the ridiculous 1.5gb hybrid drive and buy something useful with that money.

EDIT 2: To further ruin my point, the NP9170 I just priced didn't include an OS. So yeah, if the S7 offers exactly what you want, it's a great package deal.

 

the upgraded screens are nicer on the clevos and you stilll come in under budget. the samsung has crap cooling and crap build quality. they are all name

 

but at least it's working without any problems
675 is a old 580 solid graphics

 

The Sagers have no problems with nVidia GPUs, and the 7970m should be up to speed long before it becomes a bottleneck.

 

the sagers screen with the 95% ntsc gamut is nicer than the ones on the samsung 400nit screens? also from the reviews the cooling and build quality doesnt seem to be CRAPPY as you claim..are you sure??

 

so youre saying that i should go with the sager with the 7970m?

 

The 7970m blows the 675m out of the water.

 

Quoted for emphasis. Even taking Enduro into account, go for the 7970m.

 

So just go with the Sager over Samsung gamer 7?

 

You can technically get a Sager with more power for about the same price. The specs listed in my signature are included in a laptop that cost $1662 AFTER the 3% discount and notebookreview discount. Without discounts it would have been $1760, which is still cheaper than the Gamer 7 by a hair. The only real difference is the video card. The 7970M is roughly 50% to 60% faster than the GTX 675M, despite the fact that the 675M is still considered a good gaming card.

The Gamer 7 will still be a good choice, and Samsung is brilliant, but I personally chose more power for a bit cheaper and hope it ends well once I get my Sager in.

 

yes so i guess that sums up what i was trying to get at.
Sager is more powerful while Samsung more intuitive. i really like samsungs "attitude" towards the gaming laptop scene, adding little gadgets to help enhance the feeling of a "fun" machine to always be around and be entertained WITH. And Sagers just all about bidness! they dont mess around loll. man this is a hard decision..

 

and compared to the sager 9150 how fast will the samsung gamer 7 be obsolete? same as the 9150?

 

Since they are both pretty similar, I would say they would become obsolete in the same year. In 4 years, both the GTX 675M and 7970M will be low end for intense graphic-related tasks. Looking at the picture in wide-scale, the GTX 675M and 7970M aren't much different, and their differences would be looked at as minimal in a few years. Both machines wouldn't become "obsolete" for a LONG time though. I expect 6 years minimum for the i7-3610QM alone to be able to power normal applications.

For the next two years as a gamer and future designer, the 7970M upgrade will mean a ton for me. It will mean the difference between laggy and smooth gameplay at max settings for the newest releases. If you are a gamer, the 7970M will prove to be a good choice if you want to prolong your enjoyment gaming at high settings. Either way, that will eventually fade away as games become more and more realistic.

You also want to consider upgradeability. I am not sure if the Gamer 7 can be upgraded in terms of CPU and GPU without causing BIOS problems, but if it can then that is a big plus. With the NP9150, I plan on upgrading the CPU and/or GPU in the future once better options are available. You can extend the life of your machine by a year or two with just a few hundred dollars. The Sager's are designed to be upgradeable, which was one attribute I liked before I bought.

 

dude... here (not like it's even relevant). i strongly recommend you do some more research before blowing your paycheck. i promise you that both these machines are capable of more than what you'll need from either.

 

sorry but that was not helpful at all loll..what am i reading? doesnt really compare anything (samsung screens vs mac retina etc.). just defines nit. thanks though. and i think ive been doing alot of research so thats why im asking this.

 

Yeah i agree with the "future-proofing" Sager allows with their machines, but with Samsungs screens being significantly better than the Sagers, i will still have a relevant laptop screen with parts being still relevant with an addition of a SSD upgrade down the road.
All in all, Sagers future-proof is the big plus, while Samsungs screen is the big plus. parts given to Sager because of the ability to upgrade at any point, but if i were to get the 7970m with the Sager i dont think i would upgrade anything on it other than the cpu anyways, but since ivy bridge is fairly new thats sort of a broad topic itself.
Also you guys think 17.3 is too big for a laptop to be considered portable? seriously this is one of the hardest decision that im trying to make because i dont want to buy a laptop and regret not getting the other one.

 

17.3 might be a hassle to bring around with you but that really depends on where you want to bring it to. Upgrading parts in laptops in my opinion is kind of irrelevant unless you like keeping up with the newest tech.

 

for portability, I'd say if you need to move the laptop out of your house 1-2x a week then it's fine, However if it's constantly being moved and carried then you might have to consider the weight of the laptop + power brick + a comfortable bag lol

had the displeasure of bringing my sager to thailand a few weeks ago, made me want to buy an x220 lenovo after that experience lol.

 

Also, the brightness of the screen isn't everything. The 95% color gamut of the upgraded screen for the 9150 will have a better color reproduction and is plenty bright.

Wouldn't a better comparison be between the series 7 and the 9170? why 17" vs 15"? The 9150 will be much easier to work on if you decide to upgrade later on. As far as portability, that's entirely up to you. 15" will be much easier to manage, but if you're a big dude then it's not really going to matter. If you're moving it around every day, I'd say go for the 15".. Just make sure you get a good backpack as that will help a ton.

 

I would go with the sager due to you being able to upgrade it at will and the size factor alone.

If this is something you will be carrying around all the time I would look into an MSI GE60 with 660m GPU. It's about a pound lighter and still will be able to play most games rather well for a few years.

Not to mention it has a better warranty then sager or Samsung.

 

u should ask this in the samsung thread too, you will definitely get biased opinions if you ask in a sager thread

 

Personally, I've been comparing the benchmark scores compared to AW which can turn off Enduro, I'm getting the same scores with my Clevo. I don't see an issue other than it's just a slight annoyance to activate the 7970M for Afterburner to recognize it. But that still only takes me 1 extra button press and about 2 seconds.

 

I had same dilemma.I purchase 170EM over Samsung because it's a lot cheaper in my region.I don't like all these lights on Samsung.Laptop looks like xmass tree.I preffer simple clean look.Also You can upgrade Sager later.If You want save money You can get 675 and upgrade later or get 7970 now and deal with problems.

I purchase 170EM with 7970 only because I bought from private seller.Laptop is on the way.If 7970 will give me to many problems I will downgrade to 675.It's good and solid gpu.