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    Sager 9262 and M15x Crysis FPS

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by firstn20, Mar 31, 2008.

  1. firstn20

    firstn20 Notebook Evangelist

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    Hey guys

    Just wanted to compare the M15x with the 8800 gtx card and its FPS in crysis vs the 9262. With the single 8800 gtx card, it runs at 14 fps minimum and 23 fps maximum at high settings (dunno if its with shaders aa or whatnot). What was the results with the 9262 with a single 9262. I looked at a post of benchmarks, but wanted to know what people actually got ingame.


    Thanks
     
  2. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black The Bad Ass

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    Theoretically the M15x should get destroyed in all the tests, so what you want to compare?
     
  3. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    The 9262 can play Crysis all high at at least 1440x900 with 25+ fps.
    The m15x has downclocking issues and runs pretty warm. The 9262 does not, it is the ultimate desktop replacement.
     
  4. wobble

    wobble Notebook Evangelist

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    It's pretty hard to figure out in the game. I THINK I get about the same in the game as I get in the benchmark, but can't be precise.

    I play at 1920x with everything on high but shadows and shaders set to medium, and the gameplay is very smooth, with beautiful rendering.
     
  5. firstn20

    firstn20 Notebook Evangelist

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    The benchmarks that was posted was about at an ave of 22 fps a little lower and maybe a little higher but I think that was the average. Now the M15x runs at a max of 23 fps at high settings, was just wondering if the 9262 with 1 8800 gtx card ran at a max of 25 as stated above by eleron911 or is that an average? Because if its an average its for sure better than the m15x, if its an average, its about the same as the m15x.

    Needed some info to figure out if its worth spending the money on the m15x, if it performs close to the same as the 9262 with the 8800 gtx
     
  6. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    25+ fps average of course :D
     
  7. psycroptik

    psycroptik Notebook Consultant

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    Give me about 2 weeks, Mine is on its way ;)
     
  8. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    Your goal is high dude. I don`t think you`ll make it past 16k :D
     
  9. psycroptik

    psycroptik Notebook Consultant

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    If I can get the CPU unlocked and OC'd Ill hit 18 ;)
     
  10. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    You`ll also hit 90-100C :D
     
  11. psycroptik

    psycroptik Notebook Consultant

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    Nah, these cpu's oc to 3.4 to 3.6 on air ;)
    I wont even have to go that high though.
     
  12. dexgo

    dexgo Freedom Fighter

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    I get 35fps avg @1680x1050. oc'd of course.
     
  13. wobble

    wobble Notebook Evangelist

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    OK...

    At 1920x1200, all settings on high, I got an average of 18fps.
    At 1920x1200, all settings on high except shadows and shaders on medium, I got an average of 29fps.
    At 1920x1200, all settings on medium, I got an average of 35fps.
    At 1400x960, all settings on high, I got an average of 27fps.
    At 1680x1250, all settings on high, I got an average of 23fps.

    Even the first is playable, but I prefer the second since it seems to look just as good.
     
  14. dexgo

    dexgo Freedom Fighter

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    shaders and shadows is the whole gambit bud.

    take them away its like taking THC out of Weed, or Nicotine out of Ciggs :D

    not that I smoke, but just an analogy
     
  15. wobble

    wobble Notebook Evangelist

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    Nope, it takes away nothing in this game.
     
  16. dexgo

    dexgo Freedom Fighter

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    that's such a understatement.

    it adds HDR and soooo much i'm not kidding!!!

    Graphically speaking.

    Visually.. speaking.

    yes you can still break houses and run around. but visually....

    that's what its all about.

    that's why I got this laptop.
     
  17. firstn20

    firstn20 Notebook Evangelist

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    thanks wobble and dex appreciate it, really helpful on helping me decide on which notebook to get.

    Now Dex, 35 fps on all high settings is freaking awesome, thats for sure playable. NOw when you said you OC'ed, did you OC the cpu or the gpu? Please excuse my noobness.
     
  18. dtwn

    dtwn C'thulhu fhtagn

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    GPU.

    His CPU's locked.
     
  19. firstn20

    firstn20 Notebook Evangelist

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    was on the 1730 forums and just asked what would the fps be if the gpu was overclocked on the 1730, non clocked its about the same as the m15x,waiting on their replies. But hell if Dex can run it at 35 all high settings OC gpu, gives me a better reason to get a 1730 or maybe a sager 9262, just gotta wait to see other response from other forum.

    Btw dex, your notebook get really hot with GPU OC? and how long can u leave gpu overclocked till you have to clock it back to normal? and do you use a notebook cooler, and if so which? ty
     
  20. dexgo

    dexgo Freedom Fighter

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    not hot bud. but in all honesty. if you want the most powerful notebook/GPU get the m1730.

    I get good performance out of my machine. and it's cool. but I am not impressed with my results compared to the m1730.

    Clevo cards aren't performing up to par when compared to m1730 with a weaker processor and 1 card in tests.

    I like my Clevo but I wish the cards were up to par.


    the m1730 with sli and good drivers are getting over 30fps @1900x1200 all high in the m1730.
     
  21. firstn20

    firstn20 Notebook Evangelist

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    has there been any issues with the 1730 with the gpus downclocking/gpu's fans not n-sync/ or overheating?

    read some problems with the 8800 wth the m15x and some with 9262's, dunno about dell tho
     
  22. firstn20

    firstn20 Notebook Evangelist

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    and also dex, still need a confirmation from you, your gpu was oc'ed right? and I never knew cpu was locked, thought u could use software like a multiplier instead of doing it from the bios. SO does that mean only extreme processors the only ones you can overclock in the bio's?
     
  23. Heathkidd

    Heathkidd M860TU

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    new drivers are coming out this month for the 8800m that should work on many gaming notebooks

    Gateway FX's
    Clevos
    Alienware
    and Dells..

    i wouldn't be suprized if the crysis 8800m performance is normalized by the end of the month.... ignore the scores atm its only driver difference and some downclocking issues with the m15x ..

    and a Q6600 will make little to NO difference in crysis.. its a duelcore game that is programed to be GPU based.. and hardly pushes you're cpu.

    its all about the drivers
     
  24. ARGH

    ARGH Notebook Deity

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  25. dexgo

    dexgo Freedom Fighter

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    I don't claim crap.

    I posted my fps in crysis after you asked me the last time.

    that's that

    i'll tell you what.

    when you get your rig, you can see for yourself. if you are going to overvolt your card(s) 1.05v and 600-1500-950 then run the benchmarks and see.

    as far as I know nobody on here maybe cept for gangtsa has the same bios on his/her 9262
     
  26. dexgo

    dexgo Freedom Fighter

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    [​IMG]

    there a screenshot from the benchmark utility.

    1680x1024
     
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  27. Myrk

    Myrk Notebook Geek

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    Remember the HUGE Difference in Pixels that have to be calculated
    1920 x 1200 = 2.304.000
    1680 * 1024 = 1.720.320
    Thats roundabout 33% Difference
    is it just me or is that pic blured?
    And one has to account that there has to be less antialiasing done and so on, although i wouldnt have expected 33, a good 25+ wouldn't havce surprised me
     
  28. dexgo

    dexgo Freedom Fighter

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    it's blurred because post processing is on high and the benchmark is moving.
     
  29. ARGH

    ARGH Notebook Deity

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    hey dexgo, did your crysis benchmark improve with the q6600 1333 fsb pin mod?
     
  30. dexgo

    dexgo Freedom Fighter

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    Yes, My FPS is more stable in some respects. though it didn't raise my fps.
    its not optomized for quad.

    realistically no game will enhance FPS past say a t7400

    3dmark get higher scores that's all
     
  31. EdiT808

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    i dont think crysis is a dualcore game runs fine on my friends single core p4 with a 8800gts graphic card desktop. it just runs better on a dualcore since they run faster.

    @dexgo by any chance you got a video of you demoing Crysis with your laptop beast? that be great to see.

    to the OP yeah the m1730 is pretty darn good dexgo did a comparison with magnus i believe and the m1730 pushed a bit better. Although dexgo is a freaking genius of pushing his np9262 to its limits.
     
  32. ARGH

    ARGH Notebook Deity

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    hhmm, i am surprised. i thought the 600 mhz difference would have given you another 1 or 2 fps. more stable framerates is better than nothing, though.

    i bet cad-based and video/audio editing will show a great improvement.
     
  33. DashJohn

    DashJohn Newbie

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    Hello and forgive me, I am a little new to this Gaming Laptop idea. I am very limited to what my machine is currently and I was just curious if I was going to make the right choice with a Sager 9262. The quadcore Q6770 seems to be very nice as well as the dual 8800m's in SLi. I was looking at benchmarks and I was wondering which was achieving more in SLi. The Sager is very sleek and I wondered how I might Oc the gpu(s) when and if I get one soon.

    I also wanted to know if it is ok to buy from PC tourque instead of the Sager site itself. I do not wish to go through Clevo. Also, you guys seem to be saying that the drivers are different and hard to find for Sager but are the Clevo drivers interchangable with Sager?

    Thanks,

    dashjohn
     
  34. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    If you won't be buying until four months from now, you may have a better choice of CPUs - Clevo/Sager are apparently working on a BIOS revision that would make it possible for the D901C to support the next set of quad-cores from Intel (Q9450 and Q9550).

    The font of all wisdom regarding OC'ing the CPU and the GPU (on the 8800M) is a poster named dexgo - search the threads he's started and you'll get a good DIY on OC'ing the NP9262 - of course, it goes without saying - do it at your own risk.

    In terms of buying, you'll get a better deal (generally speaking) if you buy from one of the resellers like www.xoticpc.com, www.powernotebooks.com, www.rjtech.com, or any of the other resellers listed on Gophn's sticky called Clevo and Reseller Faqs (I think that's the name). Basically, you can't buy from Clevo itself (unless you're going to become an OEM like Sager), and Sager seems to have the (healthy) habit of not competing against its own resellers on price, so you'll generally get a better price if you config on a reseller's website than on the Sager website.
     
  35. G33KSRUS

    G33KSRUS Notebook Enthusiast

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    I brought my 9262 from pctorque.com and had no problems with them what so ever. In fact the priced match the cheapest reseller I could find at the time, then drop the price another 20 bucks. I'm not hear to start anything with the other resellers on here but there are other "good" options out there if you just look for them. I'm very pleased with my order. A bit of advice when working with PCTQ is to ask about the price matching. When I first ordered the notebook unknowingly I would have gotta a better deal with xotic.com but I emailed them and they drop the price after I already placed my order, as long as they haven't shipped it to you, your good to go.

    Off soap box