Sager 9750 w/ Dual core Opteron?

Whilst perusing the Hypersonic website I chanced upon their Sager 9750-like machine (what Hypersonic calls the Aviator FX7), and I noticed that one can configure it with a 'AMD Opteron 185 Dual-Core Processor'.

Is this a new option that all resellers are going to be offering now? Or is it just unique to Hypersonic?

I also notice that they are offering the Nvidia 7900 GTX 512MB video card as an option, mind you for an extra $292!

 

Hey, Jason. Hypersonic is providing this without the required driver for Opteron Processors, Clevo doesnt support it. The FX-60 is supported and has the appropriate driver. The FX-60 speed would be nearly equal to that of the Opteron and not worth the + $230.

Here is the spec sheet on Clevos website

 

According to a senior engineer at Sager, Opteron is supported by the unit, but Sager will not approve it because Clevo will not be providing any Server OS drivers.

The Opteron is pointless to be run on Windows XP as it only shows about 0%-1% performance increase.

The processor is designed to take advantage of a Server OS Platform. Therefore with no Server OS drivers, and no performance advantage in Windows XP, there is no sensible reason to offer it in the NP9750.

 

Alienware also offers the dual-core Opteron in their Clevo D900K (MJ-12 m7700a):
http://alienware.com/Configurator_P...Code=PC-LT-MJ12-M7700A-CP&SubCode=SKU-DEFAULT

But it really is pointless, agreed. Installing a server os on something that is not supported is not a pleasant experience. I was able to get it on one or two ThinkPads at work, but it never functioned properly. I ended up removing it from the laptops because of all the problems. You'll have problems with the video drivers especially.

 

About the FX-60, is it dual core? What is the main difference between the FX-60 and the AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+, besides speed (2.6GHz vs. 2.4GHz)? They both seem to have the same cache size, etc. Is the FX-60 geared more towards gamers?

 

Yes, the FX-60 is dual core. AMD has a Comparison Chart that shows the differences.

Those specs don't really show the pretty massive difference in performance, but you can Google for tech articles to compare them...

Yes, the FX-60 is geared toward gamers and other high end power users

 

From what I understand.
The main difference between the 4800+ vs FX-60 is Price.
The performance difference from what I have read does not make up for it for the price and most can just use this for bragging rights.

When I was debating on getting the D900K I was going to use either the 4400+ or the 4800+ and that was it.
I just think you get a better Price/Performance ratio w/ the 4800+ vs FX-60.
But if you got cash to blow, why the hell not lol.

 

Man,

anyone that knows the best buy for AMD dual cores is the AMD Opteron 165, why you might ask?

1) it is approx. $300, same as for Athlon X2 3800+
2) it has 1mb per core (for the gaming), unlike the 3800+ to the 4200+
3) it is hands down THE BEST overclocking CPU, with air cooling, can be clocked to 2.5-2.6 ghz (well past the FX-60 if wanted) without a major temp increase and little to no voltage modifying.
4) so literally, an FX-60 equivalent CPU for $300!!!... this info is all over the net, read it up.

True that you would only buy an Opteron 165 over an Athlon X2 3800+ in you are going to take advantage of the overclocking. But a 3800+ has 0.2ghz more than the stock clock of Opteron 165's 1.8ghz. So for those that arent going to overclock, the 3800+ would be a good option. In any case, the 1mb per core is the most important to me, thats why the Opteron 165 is going into me Clevo D900K (Sager 9750).

Game on people,

-Gophn

 

If you're going for an Athlon X2 processor, I would not recommend the FX-60. Get either the 4400+ or the 4800+, both have 1MB cache per core (2MB total) and are great CPUs. Unless you are going to be rendering or encoding all the time, I would suggest sticking with a lower-clocked CPU and just get more RAM and a faster (7200RPM) hard drive.

Opterons are good at overclocking because they use better silicon I believe. However, I would be very hesitant to overclock a notebook's CPU.

 

I overclocked my desktop CPU a couple of years ago, but I probably wouldn't overclock a notebook CPU as there would likely be heat issues, etc.

I wouldn't mind the extra CPU speed, that the FX-60 offers, for video transcoding though. But I'm not sure if I want to shell out the extra $$$ for an extra 200MHz.

 

Listen to what ChazMan said...he hit it right on the head!

 

Is it possible for owners of the 9750 to upgrade to the Opteron? Will the board/bios support it?

 

No, the Sager NP9750 will not support the Opteron processor.

 

Thanks for the quick answer. One more since we are on a 9750 related thread and talking about compatibility. Is there any other (newer) motherboards to upgrade the current 9750 with? I'm assuming it would have room to grow, i.e. express card, opteron cpu's, if one could upgrade the board.

OT:

I always listen to what Chazman has to say He's very much appreciated in these forums.

 

There are no newer motherboards for the NP9750 at this time, and there have been no announcements regarding the next generation NP9750.

 

The Sager 9750 can use an Dual Core Opteron, like the Opteron 175. It's not officially supported, but has been known to work.

 

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