Sager/Clevo Heat Venting

I've been looking around for a new computer and really wanted an Asus due to the design (mostly the dual back heat venting + cool factor of the way it looks).

However, after looking at Sager/Clevo, the chassis on the laptop actually look very similar with a vent for CPU and GPU (as told by XoticPC reviewer). Does anyone know how the heat venting compares of a Sager/Clevo to the Asus?

 

Depends which model you mean. With the P150, the air is drawn in from the base, and blown out the back through the heatsinks. The CPU and GPU have independent fans and heatsinks. The cooling is pretty good, although there are some simple ways to improve it further.
I can't see the point of the Asus. Too much money for not much power.

 

I think you need to look at the MSI machines too, sure they only have one fan, but it's one fan that can put the combined power of the clevo/asus ones to shame.

 

Isn't MSI's single fan a bit bigger than the GPU fan in Sagers too?

 

I'm very happy with P150EM's cooling. After repaste I've never seen 80 in game with 7970M.

 

i wont recommend the Asus G series, its a HUGE pain to take it apart and clean/repaste (saw a video, about 20ish screws), not to mention it voids warranty as well. for clevos, its just 4 screws and you have access to the whole gut of the laptop. also you can clean/repaste/upgrade however you want without voiding warranty

 

Clevos are easiest ones to clean. (not talking about P370EM, but even THAT is easier than all other brands)

Also, best price for what you get (and you get nothing but the best performance).

 

The clevo/sager cooling system is the one I would go with. Here are pros and cons:

Cons:

1. somewhat noisy
2. sucks in a lot of dirt
3. Fans must be ordered, so don't break one (This is to be expected, but it would be nice if they were easier to upgrade/replace)

Pros:

1. Very simple. I have taken mine apart multiple times (I am no tech expert, just your average highschooler) and had no difficulty putting it back together
2. It is very effective. When I first got the laptop I was able to overclock my GTX 675M by 110mhz and stay safely under 80 degrees Celsius.
3. It is easy and safe to modify. Unlike other companies, Sager/Clevo will usually not refuse maintenance or charge you for problems if you modify your system (Provided the modification didn't cause the problem) I was able to reduce temps by 10 degrees Celsius by doing a 1 minute modification to the system, while also being able to overclock by an additional 10mhz without modding the bios.
4. It is easy to clean. If you want to fully clean the system, you just need to pop off the back plate and then remove the fans, no other parts need to be messed with.


Also, it is worth mentioning that there are very few differences between the cooling system of an ASUS and that of clevo/sager laptops. The main reason the ASUS system is quieter is that the system is not intended to be worked on by it's user so there is more stuff around it to dampen noise.

 

Bigger and deeper.

Also the MSI is the easiest to clean because there is one fan and when you remove it getting to the heatsink is easier, especially for the GPU where it is all one block.

 

^ Any pics of the MSI? I had an MSI 1036 and 1029 with heat issues it put a bad taste in my mouth about MSI

 

Here you go:

 

w370et it doesent get much easier than this.

 

The msi only has a single screw holding the fan in

But both are pretty easy

 

I don't see how MSI, Alienware or Clevo are easier to clean. You just take the cover off and use an air can. No need to take off the fans... All are the same to me. As for GPU repasting, I don't see how MSI is easier since most people just repaste the core, not redo the thermal pads. so just taking off the heatsink off the core is all you need to do on Clevo.
- Though I do admit, I prefer the MSI heatsinks on both GPU and CPU. If MSI had the GX60 when I bought my Clevo, I would have gone with that instead.

Whatever, as long as it stays cool, shouldn't matter. If noise is a factor, guess you just have to hear them to decide for youself. While gaming, I think the Asus G series and my current Clevo are about the same.

 

Taking off the fan lets you visually inspect the heatsink to make sure it is clean and its bad to spin a fan at high speed when it is off which you might catch if its still in place.

 

I cannot disagree more. The cooling (or heating, I should say) on my NP8170 (p170hm3) has been a let down. It was the reason I bought the laptop, but I wish I did more research on it before I made the purchase. Out of the box, my processor was running over 90 degrees Celsius when playing video games on LOW settings. I had to reapply the paste just to get that number down, and even so, it still runs hot. (Yes, I've looked at the threads regarding the overheating and applied the methods there -- no change) Not to mention if you want to keep it cool you have to use the fan boost feature, which is extremely loud and obnoxious. People have trouble hearing me over the fans on VOIP programs such as Skype.

 

@Kingof2v1

These are just from the crap you've posted in the last few days.

- CPU does not run at 90C with games at low since games at low wouldn't even use 50% of CPU.
- Fans do not run so loud to bother anyone with Skype
- For same level of hardware, Clevo is about $200 cheaper than Asus
- Asus BIOS does not have more options than Clevo
- If comparing with same specs, Alienware is not severely overpriced compared to Asus.
- Clevo cooling is substantial enough to handle multi-GPU.
- CPU does not run at 3200 all the time, it's called Speedstep/Turbo boost moron.
- And you tried to imply XoticPC and Sager have bad service and should be avoided without any proof.

You're had your notebook for about a year and you constantly praising Asus and trashing Clevo... Begs the question why you still have a Clevo and don't have an Asus. If you want to sell, pretty sure selling it used a year later is not better than just returning the notebook in the first 30 days. So that only leads me to think, there is some agenda here. Also makes me wonder if you even have a Clevo and actually own an Asus or a shill for Asus. Just my observations.

 

On top of that comment, it's one fan with no open intake. It pulls air across the whole motherboard and blows that out the back and side. ._.

Talk about a crazy fan.

 

There is a lot of air intake for the MSI. Lots of grills on the bottom.

 

how do you get CPU to 90C? i can hardly get it over 60

 

From the keyboard too keeping it cool

Having lots of sources of venting means it's very unlikely to get blocked and overheat, it also does cool the rest of the system.

At full pelt it's pretty beastly using over 4 watts by itself.