Sager Model difference and alienware

Hello all,

Im looking to replace my dated P180

Im looking at a few websites, mythlogic and powernotebooks.com

Mythlogic has one 15.4" model - a "pollux 1613-A"
This outfitted with i7-4810, 2x4GB 1600 mhz, 880M, 840 evo 128GB SSD, 1TB 7200 RPM 32mb Cache, Killer n1202 network, and a BD-ROM drive is coming out to 2064.10.

Power Notebooks.com has 2 15.4" Monitors.
A NP8278, and a NP8268. From what i can tell picture wise the 8278 seems to be the equivalent of the 1613-A on mythlogic. Is that the case?
What is the difference between the 8278 and the 8268? They are priced equivalently at $2153, or $2143 respectively with the same set up.
Is the $100ish price difference expected between equivalent models through different sellers?

On the 17" Models, Mythlogic offer 1 non-SLI version, a 1713-A. This specced equivalently is 2265.85. Now Powernotebooks has many more models.
A NP9570, NP8298, NP8278, and NP9377. What are the difference between these models? Its near impossible to tell based on specs because they can be specced equivalently. Which of these is equivalent to the 1713A on myth?

What i am looking for is a replacement notebook, not a desktop replacement. My desktop is good and powerful, but i want something thats possible to play on my lap/in bed. Will the 17" allow for this or do i really need a 15"? Are there lapdesks that fit the 17" as well as a mouse?

What is the cooling situation on these? Can they all hold up without a cooler?

As far as alienware goes, is it really worth the ~$1000 premium? It astounds me that equivalent setups in the 17" models are that big of a price gap

 

The 78 is 17'' and the 68 is 15.6''. You'll find you run into the same product between resellers. You may want to check to see if the operating system is chosen on bother resellers. It appears mythlogic has win7 checked off by default whereas for most sager resellers you have to choose the operating system which is extra. Sagers by default have no OS. Your best bet is likely deciding the size you feel comfortable with and the parts you want in it and then going through the resellers and find who has the support/sales that you're comfortable with dealing with. I can't really recommend anything as far as I've yet to use a laptop that wasn't trying to slow cook me while on my lap and my first sager is still in the building phase so I can't comment on the heat they generate from personal experience. As far as alienware goes, I've known people that got bricks and never managed to resolve the issue with support there and people that have had absolutely no issues and love their machines to death. For me the price isn't worth it, but it's a personal choice.

 

Ah, i mistyped, the two 15" models are 8268 and 8258

The powernotebooks does infact have the OS (windows 8.1) checked and the price difference is still there

 

custom gaming laptops - Welcome to Sager Notebooks

Looks like the 58 supports two harddrives + two msata and the 68 supports one harddrive and two msata drives. The units themselves are built a bit differently too:
http://www.sagernotebook.com/index.php?page=product_info&model_name=NP8268
http://www.sagernotebook.com/index.php?page=product_info&model_name=NP8258

Some people prefer not to have a glowing touchpad.

 

I wouldnt recommend gaming on your lap as it will surely block vents and cause extra heat. As for alienware I feel that alot of the mobey they charge is warranted due to build quality, but I also can now say that sager/clevo are well built and more then enough to handle most users. Honestly if you do game in bed at least get a lap board.

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Thats why im my initial post i asked about lapdesks large enough to fit a 17"

One thing I am noticing, is that Alienware Monitors seem to offer much higher levels of gamut. In the 90% range where that doesnt seem to be an option on the 17" Clevo

 

The supplier for the nicer screen options on the sagers stopped making them so they're no longer available. The default monitor is in the 60% range. Where were you seeing the 90% gamut on the alienware. The newest I could find was 72% tops, but I have a hard time digging through some of the mega threads for info.

 

On option I wish that Clevo/Sager had that I've only seen (recently) on Alienware is the HDMI input. This lets you play your xbox/ps on your laptop screen etc.

 

They had it in the past, but protections on outputs means its a little tricky to support.

 

Xotic has a 90% screen listed, glossy though

 

Guess that'd depend on if you can go for a glossy screen then. I know if you do run into glare it's frustrating as heck. Had an old tv that was nice and glossy and it was basically an expensive radio until lunch time because of the glare.

 

The 90% glossy is only for the 17.3" I believe. Also, I happen to be one of the few that prefer glossy over matte, so it worked for me.

 

The NP9570 Is a Desktop replacement laptop. It has a LGA2011 desktop processor and can have SLI. Needless to say it's a Powerhouse on performance, but was not meant for mobile use.

The NP9377 has the mobile cpu and SLI videocards Mythlogic 7313 equivelent

The NP8298 and NP8278 are the same as the Mythlogic 1713A and the 1713A Black. The case is either a gloss black or a matte black depending on your preference.

Vanished answered you on the 15 inch difference so I won't touch that.

Mythlogic uses the same clevo machines, but I do believe they customize their bio's to give you more options.

I can't think of a reason you'd want to pay the 1000 dollar difference for an alienware, but I'm a sager fan not alienware. Never liked their quality or their looks.

Check out sagernotebook.com too. They give you a nice highlight list showing the differences between the models.

 

The NP9570 is a desk to desk machine and a car is the best way to move it around lol.