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    Sager NP5160 vs ASUS A53SV vs Other Models?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by ArmageddonX, Jan 20, 2012.

  1. ArmageddonX

    ArmageddonX Newbie

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    I'm looking to get a laptop. Is there any advantage between these two laptops?

    The ASUS models seem to be a ::lot:: cheaper. Is there a reason for this?

    I'm really big on having a laptop that wont overheat with extended & intense MMO gaming. Specifically, Star Wars The Old Republic.

    I had a HP gaming laptop several years ago and it would overheat constantly. I really don't want to have to worry about that this time around.

    I wish I could afford the Sager 8x series for the dual-cooling fans for the GPU & CPU. Or even an ASUS G-Series for the nice cooling they have. However, I'm working on a budget that has to be under $850.

    Thank you for any advice anyone here can give me. I'm open to other models besides the ones I listed in the Topic Title.
     
  2. sha7bot

    sha7bot Company Representative

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    Based on our Furmark results, these Laptops are neck and neck with one another.

    As far as advantages go, Sager has local tech support, and I can vouch for their customer service. It's spot on. Not to mention it's local as opposed to Asus's Global Warranty.

    Asus though, has great products and nice features.

    Let us know which you choose!
     
  3. ArmageddonX

    ArmageddonX Newbie

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    Do you know if one has better cooling than another?

    Are the Sager models designed for extended gaming?

    Are there any other models your might suggest?

    Thank you so much for your input & help.
     
  4. Architect

    Architect Notebook Geek

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    My wife got a base np5160 model (added OS) for Christmas. She is able to play SWtor on high at 1600x900. Her temps are at or under 75C with a laptop cooler, her system has standard paste. Compared to my setup, hers is still very nice.
     
  5. ArmageddonX

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    Wonderful! Thank you! This is exactly what I was hoping to get here when I posted.

    Is there anything you would upgrade on the NP5160 in retrospect for The Old Republic or for the Laptop in general?
     
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    At the time, I had just little less budget then you, if I had just abit more I would upgrade to IC7 paste just to insure long gaming or intense gaming wasn't a problem. I'm not sure of my personal ability to add it myself.
     
  7. ArmageddonX

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    Is at or below 75C normal for the GeForce Mobile cards? I know my ATI Desktop card runs at or below 55C usually. Do the Mobile Cards run hotter?

    Again, thank you so much for this input. It is invaluable to me right now.
     
  8. Architect

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    I am no expert about temps between desktops and laptops. But from what I have gathered here on the boards anything below 80C is okay.
     
  9. sha7bot

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    Mobile cards will run hotter than desktops. If you compare the size of heatsink/fan on a desktop gpu, (Look at the MSI Twin Frozer coolers, they're huge!) with a laptop GPU, it's a vast difference.

    Our Furmark results for a 570M are averaging 95c, but this is at GPU load. Not many games will push your cards like Furmark will.

    If you're really concerned about heat, go to best buy or new-egg and get a nice laptop cooler. If you take a gander through the forums here, there are always debates about which cooler is the best.
     
  10. Anthony@MALIBAL

    Anthony@MALIBAL Company Representative

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    Mobile cards can run quite hot. The max operating temps for most cards is 100-110C. You're in the comfortable zone if you're keeping temps under 90C, and in the dangerous zone between 90-100C.

    Desktop cards on the other hand can run just as warm due to larger power draw, but the much more efficient cooling tends to keep them lower than that.