Sager NP5793 - upgradable graphic card ?

I talked to Justin W from XoticPC and he confirmed that the Sager NP5793 has MXM, and therefore I can change the graphic card in the future. Can ya'll confirm the same, please ? Thank you!

 

Well, you have a removable video card, which doesn't necessarily make it upgradeable, so I wouldn't count on that, mainly due to historical reasons...

 

So you mean say 2 years from now I can remove the 8800M I'm getting and insert in a newer one, right ?

 

I said rather the opposite, it usually doesn't happen for one or another reason.

For example, you notebook may need a motherboard revision or something, which would mean no upgrade.

And no one can tell you what is going to happen in 2 years, so again, don't count on the video card being upgradeable...

 

Okay. I guess then that's a problem with ALL laptops. What I was looking for was a solution in terms of an alternate laptop, some other if not the Sager, if I couldn't upgrade it's GPU. Since it's such a problem, then I guess its the case with all laptops and there's no remedy to it and so the Sager is fine enough. Thanks again!

 

I think Dreamer laid it off right off the shelf.You have an MXM slot type GPu,which means you can take it out. Your particular notebook,the 5793 supports 3 different gpus: the 7950gtx, the 8700m gt and the 8800m gtx. So it is upgradeable between these 3 for sure.But also keep in mind, that older 579x laptops,such as the 5790 and 5791,to fully upgrade to the 8800m gtx,although physically compatible and working ,needed a mobo revision.Which did not cost that much in the end.SO pretty much upgradeable,if a bit too expensive for some.

 

Yes, that's the case with all notebooks, there aren't that many MXM notebooks anyway.

Also, your notebook may need a motherboard revision to support a new card, but there is no guarantee that they will release a motherboard revision for it, most likely they won't, which would mean you couldn't upgrade, regardless of the price... and that is something that has happened before so...

 

I still don't understand why people want to upgrade a video card. I mean, in your case Prasad007, the laptop woun't worth as much as a video card after two years.

 

So what is a gamer supposed to do ? Buy a fresh new laptop when it gets outdated ? I'm honestly asking because I've always been with a desktop and I change the motherboard, CPU, graphic card, RAM, hard disk from time to time, and never had a laptop before.

 

Yes. Well changing those desktop parts is like changing everything, no?

 

Yup but definitely cheaper than a whole damn gaming laptop.

 

Yeah. That's right, but that's the way it is.

 

Oh well... Welcome to the laptop world (to myself), I guess

 

Yeah, you could say that .

 

I asked about this a while back and to be honest I still don't trust the whole mxm thing. Before the 8800m gtx came out the np5790/91 np9260 both flat out said mxm upgradeable on the xotic pc website. Then when the newer models came out only the np9262 said it in the laptop description. Now to find out the 9262 is a mxm you have to scroll down and locate it in the specs. I'd kind of like to know what their take is on that? It's a question for myself, because if my t9300 processor sales I get the NP9262 if not I buy a np5793 bare bone and use it.

 

Okay. Well I guess its not just me, but everyone who has to deal with it.

 

simple answer (and more than likely the simple truth), NEVER BUY a laptop if you plan to upgrade previous mentioned laptop. MXM runs pretty parallel to buying clothes for rosie o'donnell, yes it might fit now, but it 2 years i would say thats a NO GO.....

 

And this IS the universal case with all laptops, right ? Just confirming...

 

Yeah, that would be right.

 

Okay. Thanks again.

 

Ya' welcome.

 

You can replace and upgrade the HDD like a normal computer.
Motherboard you're stuck with unless Sager offers a new one.
CPU can be upgraded, if it fits and ther motherboard revision supports it.
RAM can only be maxed.

 

Thanks! Points worth noting..

 

This is something I've been wondering about, how difficult is this task (I'm new to the laptop world). Would changing out the harddrive void the warranty?

 

Same here.

 

It doesn't void the warranty and it's an easy task.
Anyway, I never though about telling about the CPU, RAM and HDD upgrade.
You can upgrade to a newer CPU (usually from the same generation, always for the same socket), to a bigger HDD (as long as it has the same connector, in this case SATA) and put more RAM inside (maximum of 4GB currently).

 

I guess you guys are going off tracks.Sager has been known to offer upgrade paths, if a bit more expensive,but still less than a whole new laptop. The Cpu,hdd,ram,and optical drives are upgradeable.
If the gpu is not FULLY upgradeable, a mobo revision might fix that,and still wouldn`t cost as much as a new thing.You might want to think about that also, if you really want a laptop.

 

Well, a new GPU -> a mean motherboard.
A new CPU -> new laptop (almost all the time).
So there you go...not really upgradeable.

 

Cool. So where exactly do you order newer Sager motherboards from ? Can you do that, I mean, just the motherboard ? And is it easy to upgrade yourself ?

 

You can do that kind of an upgrade, but it's not a realistic price. It will cost you close to 1k to upgrade to 8800M GTX (the card is 700$). So you see, it's not a good idea to think about upgrades in laptops.

 

As I already siad, there is no guarantee that they will release a motherboard revision for your notebook, most likely they won't, and that has happened before...

Bottom line: Never plan on upgrading the GPU for the life of the notebook. End of story.

 

Okay. So that's that.

 

No it`s not just that. Things can change, and clevo has already taken a lot of steps into that direction, and sager made upgrades possible before.
Now keep in mind that nobody can say for sure if it will or not, but regardless, the 8800M GTX is the most powerful out there, and the M570RU made its way to that GPU from the 7950GTX and 8700M GT. It`s , as stated,something to consider...meaning,either go with somebody who`ll offer you upgrade paths(pcmicroworks) or somebody likely to keep things updated(sager).

And the 8800M GTX upgrade is 745$ the card +100 shipping and handling and all that for non sager clevos. Still better than a new 2.5k $ gaming laptop just for the 88M GTX.

 

Agreed. Either way, I think Sager is the best purchase I could make

 

But also, don't think it can upgrade to a better card.

 

Considering that the 8800m GTX is the best card available in a notebook and that the 9xxx series cards are still a ways off, upgrading the graphics card is something I'm not worried about.

 

Same here. Not for a while atleast. Atleast, the 9 series has to release on desktops first, and only then on notebooks after a long while.

 

Even some of the specs for the 9xxx series seem fairly weak. Besides, I have a desktop to make frequent upgrades to. My desktop still has a single 256mb 7800gtx in it, granted it can't run dx10, but is still a fairly competent card and has lasted me for quite a while, so I'm sure a 512mb 8800m gtx equipped sager will be enough for at least 2 years without me starting to want something else.

 

Yeah. Two years is quite a standard. If it runs a little over that, ie. If the laptop lasts me a little over say 3 years, then I'm very happy. Then on, maybe I'll think of upgrades or a new piece altogether.

 

If the Air Force gives me a fat check for reenlisting this upcoming fall season, I'll "upgrade" my 5793 to whatever the newest form of the 9262 is lol.

 

If my 5793 that I'll be ordering in late April lasts me anything more than 2 years, consider me happy.

 

You ARE buying from www.xoticpc.com right ? And I'll be buying late March, so as to have it Arrive April 1, the day after my final exams

 

Yeah I'll be ordering through Xotic. I'll be ordering mid-late April so mine gets to my doorstep about the same time I get back home to the states. Currently I'm on a government paid vacation to a former soviet republic.

 

Great. Oh cool I was in Russia last vacation. Anyway make sure you claim the military discount from xoticpc.