and this relates to the benchmarks how? That price is a rip off.
On topic now, the OC to 3.5Ghz and that score doesn't really add up. That should easily be at least 10,000 in 3DMark which tells me the 9800M GT isn't 100% on par with the 8800M GTX
Also Vista tends to score slightly less in 3DMark06 compared to XP.
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No one else, that I know of so far, is offering a Quad Core for the Clevo M570TU. That's my point. Mark's offering the system with the QX9300 Quad Core and 9800GTX. Yes, his price is rather steep. But like I said, if you got the dough, you can have bragging rights of a Quad Core in the M570TU.
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Um ok sager is also going to be offering the quad core and the 9800gtx for the 570TU. But the Quad core mobile wont be out for another 4-5 months.. and the 9800gtx isnt even out yet. Sager hasent started to advertise the quadcore cause intel hasn't released a stable ETA yet.
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I find this funny as the mobile quads are going to take a different socket then the normal peryn processors. So good luck seeing these built in less then a year.
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No one reads, so far mobile quads take a different socket then what exists, this means you'll need a MB upgrade to use one....
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I've been following Mark's performance for quite a while now. Killernotebooks is legit. The man doesn't just talk the talk, he walks the walk. He builds the systems himself. He was the first to offer Clevo notebooks with the Core 2 Duo, the first to offer the Santa Rosa, the first with the Extreme Processors, then the Penryn. I have no reason to not believe that he doesn't have the Quad Core mobile.
http://www.guruofgaming.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=2186
My only problem with Mark and his notebooks are, I can't afford them. Yes, his prices are steep. But if you want to be the first in your block to have a quad core in the Clevo M570TU and have the bragging rights, be prepared to pay for it. -
What does this have to do with benchmarking the current crop of NP5796s and the 9800m series in particular...? We've already come close to establishing that the processor is probably not bottlenecking Justin's test unit.
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Seriously, just cut the advertising rep and keep focus on the real questions here ok? I'm interested in the 9800M GT real specs and why it's slightly falling behind the 8800M GTX. I could care less about a Quad Core Mobile right now, if I wanted Quad I'd get a 9262 and be done with it. Your posts come off like you work for this guy or are him.
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Guys, the card is falling behind seriously.. the 8800GTX is better, why? because my cards score similar to the 8800GTX , so judging myself, i'm getting 4200~ in SM2 and 4200~ in SM3 and HDR test, sometimes 20-30 points better or lesser depending on the driver, but on the CPU i'm getting 1900 something. that brings my total score to 9100~ , but with the 9800gt benchmarks posted here, its getting lower SM3 scores, and gets 900 CPU points above me due to 1ghz difference between the 2 CPUs (talking about the stock benchmark without OC) and probably the extra 2gb ram, which makes the 8800GTX the winner here.
and i highly doubt its a driver issue, since it uses the same tech as the 8800GTX.
if you doubt my information, you can compare to any 8800GTX owner in here, lets say nirvana since this user have benchmarks posted long time ago,
Despite of the Versus thing, this machine is awesome, congrats
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Join the discussion here for 9800GT vs. 8800GTX:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=272659
It's loaded with information comparing the 2 cards.
BTW, I'm not the guy and I don't work for him. I live in FL. He's somewhere in Illinois. Sorry for digressing but I thought that it was interesting how someone is slapping a Quad Core Mobile on the Clevo M570TU. Be interesting to see the benchmark of that system. Won't post about it again on this thread, a'ight.
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If you read the dedicated thread on the differences, Donald posted some benchmarks in Crysis and Devil May Cry 4 from Sager and the 9800M GT did slightly better than the 8800m GTX, although the difference was quite small.
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Wait wait wait, it has the same clocks as the 8800M GTX but 64SPs rather than 96. Did they gave it Red Bull or what?
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nope, nvidia has had the wrong specs listed all along. The cards are Identical
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Nvidia had it wrong.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_9800m_gt.html
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It changed overnight... Now it has 96SPs (as officially stated in Nvdia's page).
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Now we should raise our hats to Paladin and Justin for them to be really honest
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Frankly I think Noel owes an apology for getting so testy and insulting others.
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So same hardware, but slightly better benches? I would assume an optimized vBIOS would have something to do with this...
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It is an optimized vBIOS actually. PCMW told me that its basically the 8800m GTX card we are getting except with a new bios.
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OK... so I have what may be a dumb question but I have searched everywhere and I cannot find them.
Can the average consumer purchase an MXM video card on his own? I am looking for either an 8800GTX or the 9800. Currently I have a Sager 9261 with dual 7950 GTX's running at 1680 x 1050.
If I can buy either of these cards somewhere am I just as good with one card vs. two in SLI? Honestly I haven't noticed much benefit to the SLI mode on this system.
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You would have to find somebody that sells you the cards and the heatsinks for it, and that`s only a reseller or somebody who sells theirs from a D901C(sager 9262).
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not sure if the cards from the 9262 will work in the 9261
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I was wondering, looking back at the 3DMark06 score of 9682 with the
9800M GT & the X9100 CPU, can you forsee this combination geting a score os 11k+
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I can see the score being possible with xp, but hard to say with vista. Justin showed a while back that the cpu at 3.5ghz really didn't help the score at all. As a matter of fact my old x9000 at 3.2ghz in xp scored pretty much the same.
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It was the X9100 paired with the 9800GTS but the GTS is one step below
the GT so how is that an advantage?
I would like to know how it is possible to get over 10k with the X9100
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>.> you install a x9100 and windows xp, my old 5793 with a x9000 and windows xp broke 10k but just barely and only with a cpu overclock not using setfsb.
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hmmm
I dislike XP.
A lot.
As in ∞
There has to be a way with Vista... -
If you want raw power, XP is unbeatable. If you still believe that Vista is the best gaming OS, then , oh brother
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I don't believe Vista is a better gaming platform...
Alright, since you've beaten me with an ugly stick I'll confess.
I like eye candy.
One look at my wife and you'll agree, eye candy has its rewards...
(Good thing my wife pays me no mind when I'm on NBR)
I would miss some of the cool visuals with Vista...the Sidebar, Dreamscene
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Zenica, the 3dmark I post isn't OC with the CPU..but oc with the GPU. The Clocks I have posted aren't the clocks i scored with..but stable clocks. These clocks push around 10800-10900. Just a heads up.
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I would agree, vista is very nice looking, if only there was some way to make xp look like vista....oh wait http://www.crystalxp.net/news/en181-vista-inspirat-ultimate-2-brico-pack.html
Sager NP5796 Benchmarks
Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Justin@XoticPC, Jul 15, 2008.