Sager NP5796 or NP9262

I'm trying to decide which one of these I should get.

NP5796 $2470.59
17" WSXGA+ "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright Glossy Screen (1680x1050)
Intel® P9500 45nm "Montevina" Core™2 Duo 2.53GHz w/6MB L2 On-die cache - 1066MHz FSB 25 watt
1,024MB PCI-Express nVidia GeForce 9800M GTX DDR3 DX10
4,096MB DDR3 1066MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS)
200GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)

NP9262 $2543.34
17" WSXGA+ "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright Glossy Screen (1680x1050)
Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 3.16GHz w/ 6MB L2 Cache - 1333MHz FSB
1,024MB PCI-Express nVidia GeForce 9800M GTX DDR3 DX10
4,096MB DDR2 800 (2 SODIMMS) Dual Channel Memory
200GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)

I unfortunately don't keep up with processor speeds or ram speeds anymore So i'm not sure which of these would actually be faster, maybe someone can point me to some good benchmarks between the two.

I'm leaning towards the NP5796 right now because it just looks better, the NP9262 just looks clunky to me, however I know they are built solid.

Also this is gonna be my first time buying a Sager so any advice is appreciated.

 

The Clevo 901C (Sager 9262) remains king of notebooks:
- quad-core CPU
- 8GB of RAM
- SLI 9800M
- 3 internal HDD
-.... the best cooling design that no notebook can match

There are many reviews for the D901C and the M570RU.. which is the same chassis as M570TU (5796).

It comes down to preference.
(Personally, I can careless about a notebook's sexiness... thats weird)

The D901C is the world's fastest... and extremely solid... but has low battery life and is bulkier.

The M570TU is still powerful and has more portability/batterylife.

If you are going to go the the D901C, go for a quad-core, it will kill any dual core in multi-threaded apps/games.... future games/apps are all being developed to take advantage of as many cores as you have.

 

[The D901C is the world's fastest... and extremely solid... but has low battery life and is bulkier.[/QUOTE]

This statement isn't true anymore with the advent of their M570TU.
It may not support quad core (yet) but CPU designs will continue to
grow and the M570TU should be able to grow right along with them.

The 901C is dated and it is enjoying its "golden years" while the M570TU is only in its teens with many "updates" left.

Just my 2cents...

 

This statement isn't true anymore with the advent of their M570TU.
It may not support quad core (yet) but CPU designs will continue to
grow and the M570TU should be able to grow right along with them.

The 901C is dated and it is enjoying its "golden years" while the M570TU is only in its teens with many "updates" left.

Just my 2cents...[/QUOTE]

Well you just answered you question to which laptop you want

 

As Gophn said, it really comes down to how portable you need it to be. The NP9262 is going to be considerably more powerful... there's no arguing that.

But for people like me that are going to be in situations where I may need to run it for more than a half hour on the battery, and considerig the fact that I'll be carrying the thing around everywhere (the 5796 is a good three pounds lighter), the NP5796 becomes more and more attractive. This model also offers eSATA support if you plan on using an external HDD, and an HDMI port which I think will probably be the more useful of the two.

If my machine was going to sit in one place all the time, maybe hauling to a buddy's house once in a while, the NP9262 would be a no brainer. But I decided to sacrifice some power for a little portability. Don't get me wrong, the NP5796 is not exactly a small machine, nor does it get outstanding battery life, but it's at least semi-portable and will still wipe the floor with 95% of other laptops out there.

Hope that helped. That was the logic I put behind my decision of the 5796 over the 9292.

-Darren

 

This statement isn't true anymore with the advent of their M570TU.
It may not support quad core (yet) but CPU designs will continue to
grow and the M570TU should be able to grow right along with them.

The 901C is dated and it is enjoying its "golden years" while the M570TU is only in its teens with many "updates" left.

Just my 2cents...[/QUOTE]

This is a false conclusion. The NP 579x suffers from a number of limitations:

• noisy cooling system
• no desktop processor support
• only 1 harddisk
• only 1 video card

The NP9262 may very well be at its top, but this top is very much higher than the NP 579x is going to be!

 

I'm running UT3 8AA maxed everything 1680x1050 full 32 people in the server, no lag. Then I can play Oblivion maxed out 16AA WHILE INSTALLING ANOTHER GAME!! WOOOOO!!!

Most dictators agree, the 9262 has the power you need.

 

id really consider the 9262, but i dont like how it looks, at all... it sort of reminds me of the old dells, with the big ugly logo dead center of the cover. i also dont like the dull plastic look... i really like the look of the 5796, but i really want dual cards.....

 

You can have a back cover with no logo...

I do not have one. ... I like mine staying un-branded.

Or you can get it flattened and get a custom paint job or skin.

 

I think hp has the best look nowadays

 

Luckily for me I'm looking at the games

 

Oh man here come the flames....

I'm going out on a limb and saying that my decision to go with the M570TU was the best choice for anyone needing a portable 2-2.5hr battery life and still able to stop sit down plug in and play crysis.

If I just wanted a tiny desktop the I would get the 9262.

YES the turbo memory helps booting and loading office, browsers, P2P progs, and yes even winamp and MPC very very fast without HDD spin up.

Well how does Mavtop know?

I've been working on it since Monday when I got my M570TU. I'm almost to 2.5 hours on aggressive hybrid power saving modes throughout, with winamp, firefox, and trillian running(gotta keep in touch). Cant wait to grab up a 4gb turbo card. Without a functional rmclock or nibitor yet I wont be able to get much more, but when I get those what do you think I'm going to do?

Already this bigboy lasts longer than my Asus W3V on battery for same applications. and that was only a 14 inch screen with a 1.8GHz pentium centrino. Go figure...

 

I agree with Mavtop.
So much so that I sold my 901C in favour of the M570TU

 

Exactly!!!

 

M570TU - single HD, single GPU, no Quad Core

Clevo D901C - powerful, yes. But too dang heavy and too dang bulky to lug around.

I'm going for the Flextronic/Arima W840-DI, dual HD, Crossfire ATI 3870, mobile Quad Core, eSATA, HDMI, back lit keys, WUXGA. 1.5" thickness. 9 lbs including 12-cells battery.

 

I'm not familiar with Flextronic/Arima W840-DI, who is the North America reseller?

 

They are sold alot in mainstream companies like AW. the whitebook model seems to be coming to some clevo resellers, but I'm not sure about that. It does seem like that killernotebooks is going to sell it.

I picked the 5796 over the 9262 due to the fact that I didn't have the money to max out the 9262 to its full potential. Having only 1hdd and 1 gpu, dispite having a desktop CPU didn't really seem to have a clear advantage over the 5796. So in the end, it was a budget thing on my part. If I had a k more, I might have sprung for the 9262.

@ Mavtop with the turbo memory,

Mind giving out some actual numbers to the new turbo memory? it doesn't seem like there are any mainstream reviews of it yet. Strange.

 

If you don’t like clunky, then there is only one choice the 5796. The ultra portable size for this laptop with its performance is unbelievable. If you just look at the carrying case that comes standard with the notebook, you would not believe it’s for a 17” notebook. The design makes it look even slimmer than it is which is remarkable. If you’re not into processor speed or ram speed, then I doubt very seriously that you would notice the small gain in performance between the two, especially if you run them in “Balanced” or “Power Saving” mode as I do. This is the first notebook that I didn’t go right away and switch to “High Performance” mode, as I see it’s no reason to. HP, Dell or even Sager with its 9262 can’t match the sleek design of the M570 chassis, there’s no getting around that. Speed? You think having a P9500, 9800GTS, and 4GB of DDR3 memory is slow? Please!

 

You mean 9800m GTX or GT, right?

 

Even better!

 

There are several vendors right now and the list will grow.

Check out this link on K|N:

http://www.guruofgaming.com/modules...topic&t=2202&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

The Flextronics W840-DI has been dubbed the "2nd generation" Alienware m9750. Alienware used an Arima Chassis for their m9750. However, Arima have since sold their notebook subdivision to Flextronics. Flextronics have just recently made some revisions on the old chassis and named this new one the W840-DI, while keeping the cool, sleek look. Alienware does not have an exclusive contract with Flextronic like they used to with Arima, and hence, the W840-DI chassis is available to everyone. OCZ Whitebook, K|N Nagakami, Digital Storm Dominator, and RKC-1756 are all using this new Flextronic chassis. K|N's Nagamaki will likely outshine them all with the Mobile Quad Core offering

Here are some links:

http://www.flextronics.com/arima/ViewProduct.asp?View=174

http://www.digitalstormonline.com/laptoploadsaved.asp?id=169870

http://www.rkcomputer.net/rkcnotebooks/index.php?l=product_detail&p=95

http://www.laptoppicker.com/archives/hot-new-gaming-laptop-ocz-whitebook-laptop.html

This notebook is essentially the perfect match of power and portability. Quad Core Mobile, Dual HD, Dual GPU (ATI Crossfire), HDMI, eSATA, backlit keyboard. All for ~9 lbs. If the ATI Crossfire 3870 are comparable to the 8800GXT in SLI, this would be the perfect notebook.

 

I can't seem to find it the way I'd want it...barebones. No CPU,Memory or HDD and with an nVidia graphica card.

Oh well, guess I'll stick with my M570TU.

 

Try this one:

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Gamer_Xtreme_M1/

competitively priced.

 

Shiitz!

I would have ordered that instead of the M570TU!

I might have to list my new M570TU in the FS thread!

Dammn!

 

After careful review of both of sager's 17" notebook options I decided to go with the 5796. The chassis on the 9262 sits about 2.5 inches above the desk, try putting a 1" block on top of your current laptop and try typing of playing a game for more than 1 hour...uncomfortable to say the least. There is no doubting the power of the 9262 but I'll sacrafice some of that power for the mobility and comfort of the rig itself. The HDMI out is huge for me as well as I can plug it into my home theatre and play games in 1080p. I recently ordered my rig and will take delivery in 9/08 - I will post a detailed review - my specs as follows:
Sager NP5796
Chassis: Black/Orange Trim (a black chassis w/ silver trim would be a nice feature)
Display: 17” WUXGA 1920x1200
Processor: 45nm Intel Core 2 Extreme X9100 / 6mb L2 Cache, 3.06Ghz, 1066Mhz FSB
Graphics: NVidea GeForce 9800M GTX 1Gb DDR3
OS: Vista Business 64/bit
Memory: 4 GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM @ 1066mhz – 2x 2048MB
HD: 320GB 5400rpm SATA 300
2 gb turbo memory module
No dead pixel policy
3 year warranty

 

Nice specs... especially holding out for the 9800M GTX.

 

where can i get this in canada right now, since cyber wont ship to canada. i dont care if its barebone, i just want this one. i know tha tdigital storm will ship, but its really expensive and id rather get it from a seller in canada

 

Supposedly (rumors), it will be more readily available next month to more vendors.