Sager NP5796 vs Asus G50V-A1

Hi, i recently ordered an NP 5796 but put the order on hold as the g50v was brough to my attention. Im looking for a laptop with good gaming capabilities, quiet and cool running and that will be able to last me for a long time.

here are the specs for the different laptops:

Sager NP5796:
P8600 2.4ghz 3mb cache
9800M GT (#4 on benchmarks)
320 SATAII 5400rpm HD
2GB DDR3 RAM

Asus G50v
T9400 2.53ghz 6mb cache
9700M GT (#22 on benchmarks)
dual 250GB SATA 5400RPM HD (might upgrade one of em to SATAII for 120$ from xoticpc)
4GB DDR2 RAM

i want to be able to play upcoming games like diablo 3, farcry, and SC2 smoothly without having FPS issues... settings arent a big problem for me im happy with medium graphics.

I like the sager more for huge graphics difference in performance and cool temperatures (also the newer penryn core running at 25watt), and the inclusion of a fingerprint reader is appealing too.

The asus looks to be better overall, i dont like the fact that its a T core and SATAI hard drives but i dont know if that makes a huge difference... that goes the same for the 9700M GT as im not sure itll be able to play future games smoothly; i havent heard much about that card. Also... it might not be a big thing but the 'republic of gamers' written on the back of the laptop kind of turns me off... but its something i can look past .

Thank you in advance for any help.

EDIT: sorry about the cross posting! will continue discussion here

 

One is a high-end (9800M GT) gaming notebook, the other is a mid-range (9700M GT).

So the comparison is not really fair.
the 9800M GT will perform about 1.5 to 2 times as fast as the 9700M GT.

If you want to save money (or have a strict budget... under $1700-1800), then go for the ASUS.

If you have a $1800+ budget, then definitely get the best gaming rig for the money... Clevo M570TU (Sager 5796).

 

The Asus G50v is also a smaller laptop, so perhaps thats what you are looking for and you should check out the np8660. You can still get a 9800m gt and it should keep you in your pricerange. Only problem is, no one knows what temps are like and an exact date when it will be available.

 

i dont necessarily need to play everything on high though, as long as it runs well and it will for a long time... i also use it for university and watching shows alot of the time so the portability and quietness of the asus would be good

 

Thats just it though, a 9700m gt isn't goingto be able to play most modern games above 1440x900 right now, its just going to get worse. While a 9800m gt can play just about all games at 1680x1050. So you can reduce the resolution as time goes on, but a 9700m gt has less room to do the same thing.

 

Your other thread located Here has been closed due to cross-posting.

 

woops, sorry about that... didnt mean to break the rules :S...

@bwhxeon

i dont think i would mind too much playing on a lower laptop as i dont game as much as id like to... as long as it would play diablo 3 and starcraft that would be fine but unfortunately there are no minimum requirements for those games out yet ... performance in general shouldnt be too bad should it? its only 1 number down from the best card and is considered 'class 1'... this is the only drawback of the asus for me at the moment im really confused as to how well it would perform and how bad this would hurt me in the future

 

I'm sure both of those games will run fine on a 9700m gt, blizzards all about optimization and making sure just about everyone can play.

 

Im looking for a laptop with good gaming capabilities, quiet and cool running and that will be able to last me for a long time.

quiet and cool running definitely say you should get the 5796. asus laptops usually run hot and have low battery life. not sure about how quiet they are.

 

the card down from the 9800M GT is the 9800M GTS, then the 9700M GTS
(which are all 256-bit mem interface cards... aka. considered high-end)

Then the 9700M GT is the top of the mid-range card list.

If you want to feel comfortable with your gaming experience for more years to come, get at least a 256-bit memory interface videocard.

 

yeah, i think i should stick with the sager, its the one i liked in the first place, and its the one thatll last me longer... better pay 400$ extra now than buy another laptop in a couple of years.

Thanks alot for the help, much appreciated!

 

I always used to go with the mid-range cards to save some money because I was used to not being able to max out eye candy/resolutions and it just did not seem that important to me. Then I finally broke down and said what the hell, let's do it and I bought my 9262. Now I can't get enough...I started to upgrade and rebuild my desktop (cause my lappy blew it away at the time, about 4 months ago). Now I have dual vid cards in my desktop and I am about to start watercooling it to see how far I can overclock it. So basically what I am saying is, do not buy the higher performing card! Power is addictive! Stay away!

Good choice though man, you can not go wrong with Sager. Though I have owned an Asus before and they are decent computers too, but Sager is the top of the food chain.

 

Performance wise, the Clevo M570TU (Sager NP5796) wins hands down due to a better GPU, of course. Plus, it has a 17" screen whereas the Asus G50v has a 15.4". However, only single HD compare to the Asus G50v.

If you're looking for 17" WUXGA screen, dual HD's, Montevina, HDMI & eSATA, but not interested in Alienware, Dell, Toshiba, Asus, etc... check out this notebook based on the Flextronic/Arima W840 DI chassis:

http://www.flextronics.com/arima/ (looks similar to Alienware m9750, but newer version/chassis)

Here's Digital Storm's offering with ATI Crossfire Dual 3870:

http://www.digitalstormonline.com/laptoploadsaved.asp?id=169870

Here's RKC's version of the same, but also offering single NVIDIA 8800GTX:

http://www.rkcomputer.net/rkcnotebooks/index.php?l=product_detail&p=95

I don't really know how the ATI dual Crossfire 3870 will compare with SLI NVIDIA 9800GT/9800GTX, but I would expect that it's a notch slower. As far as comparison to a single 9800GT or 8800GTX card, I would imagine that the Crossfire be a bit faster.

 

I just got my hands on the Asus this afternoon. Looks snazzy but performance pales in comparison to the Clevo M570TU.

 

Well if you want QUIET, the NP5796 is not the way to go. But if you want COOL, it's definitly the way to go. Sadly, you can't have both

 

Wait until the 860TU hits the shelves.
I have high hopes for this bugger.

 

the g50v looks awesome with its orange racing stripes.

the np5796 sadly doesnt

 

If your a gamer on a budget get the sager you have better option of upgraders down the road, but no guarantee.

Get the Asus if you like the looks and more surfing the web...IMO...

 

i like the looks of the sager more actually, its more sleek and sophisticated, i like the asus's little panel though that tells you your battery power and such.

 

If you want a true gaming laptop, Sager NP5796 (Clevo M570TU) is the only choice. Although Asus G50V has Nvidia 9700M GT w/512MB, but M570TU comes with a much better VGA card of Nvidia 9800M GT w/512MB or 9800M GTX w/1024MB.

However, Asus G50V is much cheaper.

Good Luck!

 

I just don't get the Asus folks. They make durable quality laptops, I know because I've used a few (from work). But I can't for the life of me understand why they keep on sticking mediocre GPU's in their system.

 

I agree, I ordered one because I don't need/couldn't afford something as good as the 9800gt in a 15" (860tu) . But why is basically the weakest link of their gaming laptop the gpu?

 

Im getting the Asus G50V-A2
For 2000 bucks you get a Blu ray player 4 Gigs of ram + windows 64 bit, 9700m gt. 2 X 200 7200 RPM drives in RAID 0

The main thing I like about the Asus is that its not that thick and its really not that heavy (6.25) a macbook is (5 lbs) and about its 1.1 " thick. PErsonally I find the macbook a great baseline for a Laptop for school, Also I really dig that it has a full Num pad, Some people dont like the design but i really love it (Orange is my fave color )

Though you def wont want to take that into a business meeting haha.

 

For battery life and portability.

the Sager NP5796 is a thick and heavy laptop, and it doesnt have good battery life at all. But If your looking for an all around gaming laptop just for gaming then get the sager.

Personally I wouldnt be able to "JUST" game on a laptop anyways- Always been a desktop guy. These laptops come with Overclocking capabilites LOLOL

Why would you have overclocking capability in a freaking laptop that has less than 2 inches of space....
NEVER EVER OC a laptop please.

 

Why not? It's free performance if you can take the risk. Get a decent notebook cooler and you're set.

Do Sagers overclock well?

 

My laptop has been overclocked pretty much since day 1 (7 months ago). The temp's are no more than a few degrees above their non oc'd specs and yet the performance boost is huge.

 

Sager NP5796 (Clevo M570TU) is a 17" notebook. You shall compare Asus G50V to Sager NP8660 (Clev M860TU). I like Clevo M860TU because of 9800M GT vga card.

Good Luck!

 

What You don't like your 2092 anymore!!!

Hi Pukemon ... if you are looking for 15.4" gamer ... seems the vote goes to CLEVO M860TU (Sager NP8660) ... BUT I am holding back for now since NVIDIA cards in 9XXX sereis are being reported with the same problem that NVIDIA 8600 had ... an Over-Heating problems.

G!

 

The incidence of failure in Sager laptops is said to be nearly insignificant. FYI. Also, there is almost no other option that seems safer than a sager aside from getting an ATI card, which until benchmarks are released that prove otherwise, arent as good as NVidias. I would get the sager simply because it is the best cooled laptop you could possibly put a video card in.

 

What.... where are these reports? I see no posts of overheating 5796s. The 9800 is not defective. That's an 8400/8600 issue.

 

Kevin ...

Don't panic dude ... it was on the Home Page of NBR

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=3761114

I am personally paranoid and don't trust NVIDIA cards at all unless they are the Quadro ones (since I haven't seen or heard any bad and nasty stuff about them) ... I had a Sager 2092 with NVIDIA 8600M GT ... and was heating up in IDLE mode from 50C would go to 80C in about 10 minutes tops ...

So ... just wait and see NP5796 might be the best thing ever.

G!