Sager NP6852. 15.6 IPS. 1050ti. Kabylake. 1K

NP6852.

IPS Matte 15.6 FHD screen. I personally wouldn't want anything more than 1080p on a 15"
Kabylake 7700HQ
M.2 slot
GTX 1050Ti
Around $1000+or-

This sounds like a great affordable medium to heavy 1080p gaming machine! It's around 6 lbs. I think there should be more "noise" for this model. There is the inspiron 7000 series with a gtx 1050Ti for $800 but you get a better a IPS screen and hopefully better build quality with the clevo's?? Would you buy it??

• 7th Gen Intel® Core™ i7-7700HQ Processor
• 15.6" IPS Full HD Matte Display
• NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5
• Intel Wireless-AC 3165 + Bluetooth
• Color illuminated keyboard
• Built-in Fingerprint Reader
• Windows® 10 Home 64-Bit Edition

 

I've actually been recommending this it in a number of posts on various forums! Particularly reddit /r/SuggestALaptop where buyers often post about being interested in the Inspiron other than its screen.

I think it would be nice to have a cheaper GTX 1050 (non-Ti) + IPS option too, though, and I think Sager missed out on a good opportunity to fill that gap and get a lot of forum recommendations, by their decision to configure the $799 GTX 1050 equipped NP5855 with i7+TN instead of i5+IPS.

(I believe the $800 Inspiron is GTX 1050, not GTX 1050 Ti)

 

nice keyboard, which Clevo model does this correspond to?

 

One thing
that sucks about the N850 series is they didn't bring the MUX chip and G-Sync over from the N150RF (which consequently made it the cheapest G-Sync machine money could buy).

It does look pretty slick though for such a budget machine.

N850HK/HJ/HC/HN (HK for 1050Ti, HJ for 1050, HC 950M, HN for 940MX). HK and HJ are the most interesting since they're pascal chips.

There's a few sub-models as well for different exterior finishes.

 

Looks very nice aesthetic-wise.

 

Oh. An IPS G-Sync panel in this price range would have been pretty sweet.

I know, right! My teacher was checking out this model on the sager site. She said it looked like it looked sharp. She is thinking about doing a pre-order.

 

It's honestly the first design I've liked since the P770ZM/P750ZM. Quite impressive.

 

I ordered the 17" version of this last week. There's an ETA on the screen for 2/2, so I gotta wait for a bit until I can actually try it out. I'm excited though, my current laptop is 5 years old by now and I'm guessing the leap in quality is gonna be awesome.

 

Clevo listed the N850H / N870H as 4K UHD screen capable but only Metabox have such options? Wondering if there're 2 SKUs out there or I could DIY from FHD to 4K panel (the eDP 30pin or 40pin mystery), could anyone confirm?
4K + GTX1050/Ti would be a great multi-purpose (light)gaming and video editing platform.

 

Interesting.

However, be aware that it has been a common practice in Clevo models to use the Samsung RG/BW Pentile display, in order to claim the 3840x2160 spec in 15.6". RG/BW Pentile replaces the RGB in each pixel with either only RG, or only BW. The displays give you all the downsides to a high resolution (potential scaling issues, lower FPS in native-res gaming) without all the benefits (picture is less sharp). Alongside that, a diagonal lattice pattern can be visible, which I'm not a fan of. The use of these displays, in the absence of full disclosure, is often considered to be a deceptive marketing practice.

You will find people who have and like the display, and the advantage to that display is that it supports G-Sync, while the Sharp IGZO true-3840x2160 panels do not. However, I think the 2880x1620 display from the Aorus X5 would be a better choice for a high-res G-Sync, in most cases, since it reproduces 100% of the detail of the picture the computer renders (up to bit depth), doesn't demand as much from the GPU at native res, can be scaled 150% to match 3840x2160@200%, and has more RGBs despite having fewer rows/columns. And for laptop models that don't support G-Sync, I think the IGZO true-resolution display makes the most sense to offer.

It does seem that the offered 3840x2160 in those models is the pentile panel, though, since the higher models seem to be (because G-Sync), and I don't think they'd stock multiple panel types without the intent to be straightforward about pentile.

EDIT: If you would like a GTX 1050 Ti + 3840x2160, the new Inspiron 7567 (despite its poor quality FHD display) seems to be using a true 3840x2160! And the Dell XPS, of course, with its GTX 1050.

 

Imo a good choice for ~1.000$ (despite my previous criticism in the thread about spoiling the midrange series).

Only when sold in prefabricated, immutable configurations up to 1.500$, it's mostly not worth the price (there are some shops who do that... which is a bit of a joke, while models with 1060gtx 3gb start at 1.200$).

Also interested in the fan behaviour, as in how loud it is, and if it can be controlled via a Clevo Control Center. Cooling seems to be great though (based on chinese sources), despite the strange heatpipe setup.

 

CLEVO is not showing any offer for a LCD upgrade on this model.
They only listed one upgrade option, the following:

(Factory Option) 1 x USB 3.1 Gen 2 port (share with USB 3.0 port) (Type A) and
1x USB 3.1 Gen 2 port (share with USB 3.0 port)(Type-C)
(2 x USB 3.1 Gen 2 ports with 10Gb shared bandwidth)

Very much like they do with other models, and i guess everyone always get´s that.

 

Performance is always way more important than looks for heatsinks IMO

 

so this device is permanent 100% optimus on all display output ports?

 

Very interested in this one, but I need to know if you can disable the iGPU as upper poster says...

You think it'll be possible to disable it via BIOS?

 

We can hope. It has been a well received feature on the P65x/P67x models (minus the brief issue when waking from sleep in MSHYBRID mode).

 

Great, I'll wait till someone puts his hands on to check if you can disable it.

 

Thanks for replying but that's not what i'm asking...
According to this: http://www.clevo.com.tw/clevo_prodetail.asp?id=1018&lang=en
and metabox alpha series n870hk1 page, it's capable of fitting a 3840x2160 screen.
Just not sure if it comes in 2 different batch (as in 30pin or 40pin eDP connection)
It's up to you resellers/custom builders to offer a 3840x2160 panel upgrade i suppose?
And i'm more than happy to pay for that premium (no pentile though)

 

Does the IPS pannel and the GTX 1050TI upgrade worth it comparing it to the Sager NP5855 ($200 difference)?

Thanks.

 

Unsure about the IPS option, but the 1050Ti is definitely a worthy upgrade as it's a good chunk quicker and you get 4GB VRAM which is probably more important nowadays. Tonnes of games are breaking 2GB VRAM nowadays.

 

It's a fair amount faster which will help 1080p gaming too. For the money certainly worth it.

 

I see, Thanks for the help!

 

I am curious curious about the color coverage on the IPS FHD panel, does anyone have any information about it?

 

Me too interested in color coverage... especially since lots of competitors have bad color coverage (i.e. HP Omen 15 is said to have 60% sRGB, the Lenovo Y520 has 52%, the Dell Inspiron 7567 has 55%, the Asus FX502VM approximately 51%). Most 13", 14", 17" in the same performance class have better screens (at least 80% coverage), so that's kinda pissing me off. That said, my hopes for the N850xx aren't too high, since I've already read rumors about low quality IPS panel for it...

 

Well I discovered that the panel used in Clevo laptops differs with different resellers. I have contacted Sager about the ones they are using but yet to hear an answer from them. Meanwhile I reached out to Eluktronics, another Clevo reseller and they told me that they are using an LG IPS panel on the NP6852, LP156WF6-SPB1 to be precise which is said to have about 72% NTSC coverage.

 

The panels will vary over time on these models so you are best of contacting sales when placing your order to ask.

 

I did contact them via xotic pc. They said that a new stock of panels is going to arrive so they can't say anything until they have the new panels at hand. But they cannot even provide me with the information on the panels being used in the current stock of laptops.

 

Edit: Rep just clarified the model number being a TN panel. Disregard my question from earlier.

 

Yeah. Ended up adding the Sager NP5855 to the sidebar of /r/SuggestALaptop under a "PSA: Low Quality TN displays" / "Higher-priced laptops with poor displays" section.

There are a number of models under that category, but the Dell Inspiron 7567 and Sager NP5855 (as well as the same Clevo N855HJ from other resellers also using low quality TN panels) are the ones that have demonstrated that there is truly a need for the section. The models not only drop the ball on one of the absolute most noticeable components, they can also be considered to represent counter-progress. Last year's Dell Inspiron 7559 and Sager NP6850 both used IPS panels, and these successors are a deliberate downgrade.

 

Anyone with their hands on one of these? I can't seem to find any videos or much of anything besides the stock photos. Not much in the way of reviews either. Looking for information about build quality and materials, keyboard quality, etc.

 

Pretty early days still but using the clevo names can help find stuff, the whole range uses a similar chassis:

 

Thanks for the video! I didn't realize the N855HJ used the same chassis but it makes sense.

 

There are differences in display and keyboard to be aware of but mostly it's the same.

 

I knew about the TN vs IPS panel (one of the big draws with the 6852). How's the keyboard different? And how's the keyboard vs the NP8155?

 

I meant between the 5855 and the 6852, the 5855 uses a white only backlight model and the 6852 uses an RGB model.

 

Still same feel and build quality? The few reviews I've read and the video above point to it having a little bit of give but still being pretty good.

 

Yes it's a similar experience keyboard typing wise across them.

 

I've been seriously considering purchasing the Sager NP6852 but was disappointed to find out it has a LP156WF6-SPK3 panel. I'm not an LCD expert, but the specs don't look that great. Hard to make a call sight unseen.

 

Eluktronics sells the same thing (Clevo N850HK1) with the LG LP156WF6-SPB1 which has 72% NTSC, and also higher contrast and max brightness. Eluktronics also confirmed to me this is an option when ordering the chassis from Clevo. Eluktronics is paying a bit extra to get the better displays.

The SPK3 is a lot better than low quality TN panels still, but the SPB1 is better. The Legion Y520 in Costco usually uses the SPK3 if you wanted to check that panel out in person. The ASUS GL502VM (not GL502VT) in Best Buy uses the better LG (one of the SPB1 or SPB5 which are very similar) and the HP Omen 15t uses a lottery of displays which are all similar to the SPK3 in quality which you can use for more immediate comparison.

 

I wound up buying the N850HK1 from Eluktronics, in large part because of the better quality LG LP156WF6-SPB1 panel. It pays to shop around and ask questions.

I believe Sager is a good company and I would have been satisfied with them if they had the product I wanted. I'll be doing photo and video editing as well as gaming so the quality of the display panel is a bit more important to me than to someone who is using the computer strictly for gaming.

 

you can use 4k i did the swap

LCD Models
LG LP156WF6-SPK3 IPS FULLHD Matte
LG LP156UD1-SPB1 IPS 4K Matte

see link
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/official-clevo-n85xhkx-hjx-owners-thread.804767/

need 40pin edp cable as 1080p comes with 30pin
download service manual in my thread

 

You can -- however be aware this is a PenTile (RG/BW) not-true-4K display, the use of which I would say is deceptive marketing on part of companies who do not disclose the nature of this panel.

If you can fit a Sharp, AUO, or BOE true-4K panel into the mounting configuration, and you get one with an 0.5mm-pitch connector (not sure how to check this other than measuring ratios in photographs -- at least some of the earlier Sharp ones were 0.4mm), that would be better.

Actually do you know if the cable had any extra length to it? Some of the true-4K panels have the connector a bit further off to the side.

EDIT: This AUO true-4K panel, based on photos at least, seems to have the correct mounting configuration and connector pin-pitch! http://www.panelook.com/B156ZAN02.3_AUO_15.6_LCM_overview_30323.html -- connector seems slightly further to the side than on the LG panel ( http://www.panelook.com/images/201703/1489394999889630.jpg) but I wonder if that will be an issue in this case.

EDIT2: here

 

40pin edp cable had heaps of length (too much) but also Metabox where i got my n850 from sell the sharp 4k screen addon they said it uses a different cable to the one i ordered for my LG 4k
that said im quite happy with image quality. purchased two panels however one had a stuck pixel