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    Sager NP7280 For Sale $1,800.00

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by lipoufski, Oct 8, 2012.

  1. lipoufski

    lipoufski Notebook Guru

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    I'm not sure if this is the proper place to post this if not please point me in the right direction.
    I have for Sale a Sager NP 7280 Gaming Laptop with 480m SLI Graphics Intel 980X Extreme CPU 6 core,256g Solid State Drive 2x500g 7200rpm hard drives 12gig DDR3 RAM. Blue Ray eader DVDR/RW
    It also comes with the dual AC adapters. Unit has some wear on the palm rest fom normal use no dead pixels on display.

    1x Sager NP7280 Custom Laptop (Built on the Clevo X7200)
    - Back Up Software: No Back Up Software
    - Battery: Primary Smart Li-ION Battery Pack - Included
    - Bluetooth: Internal Bluetooth + EDR
    - Camera: Integrated Digital Video Camera
    - Case: Basic Black Business Case - Included
    - - Dead Pixel Warranty: Standard Dead Pixel Policy
    - Display: 17.3" FHD 16:9 "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright LED Glossy Screen (1920x1080)-
    - Exterior Finish: Standard Finish
    - External Display Video Adapters: No Video Adapter
    - External Hard Drive (Back Up): No Back Up Hard Drive
    - Fingerprint Reader: Integrated Fingerprint Reader
    - Floppy Drive: No Floppy Drive
    - Graphics Video Card: SLi ENABLED DUAL (2) 2048MB PCI-Express nVIDIA GTX 480M's (4096MB Total) w/GDDR5 DX11 Video Cards (User Upgradeable)
    - Memory Card Reader: Internal 3-in-1 Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS)
    - Microsoft Office Software: No Office Software
    - Mouse / Keyboard Accessories: No External Keyboard or Mouse
    - Notebook Cooler: No Notebook Cooler
    - Operating System: windows 7 Home Premium
    - Optical Drive: ~ 6X Blue-Ray Read/8X DVDRW Super Multi Combo Drive
    - Port Replicator / Dock / Adapters: No Dock/Hub/Adapter
    - Primary Hard Drive: ~ 500GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
    - Processor: Intel® Core™ i7-980X (3.33-3.6Hz) 12MB L3 Cache, 6.4GT/sec QPI, LGA 1366 6 Cores/12 Threads
    - Raid: HDD Raid Settings - OFF
    - Ram: ~ 1,2288 DDR3 1333MHz Memory (3 SODIMMS) (w/ i7 980 CPU Only)
    - Second Hard Drive: ~500GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
    -Third Hard Drive~256GB SSD
    - Software Bundle (Not Installed): No Software Bundle
    - Sound Card: Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
    - Spare AC Adapter: None Standard*
    - Thermal Compound: -Stock OEM Thermal Compound
    - Third Hard Drive: None Standard -
    - TV Tuner: No TV Tuner
    - Warranty: 3 Year Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime -24/7 DOMESTIC Based- Toll Free Telephone Tech Support (Labor Warranty through Xotic PC)
    Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Warranty Repairs
    - Wireless Network: Intel® Ultimate-N 6300 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Module
    - Wireless Network Accessories: No Network Accessory
    - Xotic Gear: No Xotic PC Gear
     
  2. Silverfern

    Silverfern Notebook Deity

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    how old is the laptop?
     
  3. Zymphad

    Zymphad Zymphad

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    There is a forum dedicated to notebook sales. Probably just have a mod move it there.

    Also price too much, can get notebook cheaper that is more powerful. A 3610QM is much faster than a 980X and a 680M runs much cooler and more powerful than your 480 SLI.
     
  4. sirana

    sirana Notebook Deity

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    Lol... proof?

    How could a mobile quad core that only boosts on 3.x Ghz if not all 4 cores are used possibly be faster than a hexacore desktop CPU that runs at 3,3 Ghz on stock?
     
  5. Silverfern

    Silverfern Notebook Deity

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    ask AMD :p

    edit: 980x is better than 3610qm, but only by around 25%. but 3610qm is a lot cooler i am assuming
     
  6. VaultBoy!

    VaultBoy! Notebook Consultant

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    I loled at that :p
     
  7. sirana

    sirana Notebook Deity

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    I was about to edit my post, "... and don't come with AMD as their flagship FX 8 core can't even beat i7 quads... XD"

    But as it's Intel vs Intel and the i7 980 is still a rock solid CPU, it doesn't surprise me that it's still 25% faster than those new ivy bridges.

    When having the 680M you actually get CPU bottlenecked in some games like Skyrim and FFIV, so you can definately use the 980's horsepower :D
     
  8. Silverfern

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    but 980x is a extreme desktop CPU, the heat is way too much for an additional 25% power. if you upgrade to say 3740qm for extra $150 you are pretty much performance level of 980x, but you get a lot smaller laptop, cooler and almost same price. Also very few games out there are bottlenecked by 3610qm. check out this link

    Intel Ivy Bridge Guide for Gamers - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

    the only game that you see a big difference is probably guild wars 2, and its only different by 7 frames

    edit:forgot to mention, a 675m could overvolt to stock 480m SLI. stock 675mx is pretty similar to 480m SLI, so it is way overpriced and too bulky
     
  9. sirana

    sirana Notebook Deity

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    Well you don't buy yourself an extreme Desktop CPU if not for absolute power. Who would mind the heat if the cooling system can deal with it :p And I still doubt any mobile CPU on the market now (not even the 3940xm) could reach the performance level of the 980x unless you proove me otherwise. My 980 for example pulls 8.56 points on Cinebench on stock clocks :)

    As for the smaller laptop, that is granted. Also a desktop cpu would consume too much power to be used on the go. But I for example consider my machine more as a mobile workstation than an ultra mobile office/surfing laptop (that's what you have netbooks for)!
     
  10. Silverfern

    Silverfern Notebook Deity

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    i use my p150em as ultra mobile laptop and also as workstation lol. what do you use your 980x for anyways, most people dont need that much power. 3920xm does 7.2 in cinebench
     
  11. lipoufski

    lipoufski Notebook Guru

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    Didn't mean to start a debate. I'll go 1600 which is a great price for this laptop with SSD and current configuration. It's not for everyone, but it does oc quite nicely with intel utility. At least 4.0 ghz. It's almost 2 years old. Guess I could part it out on eBay. Just thought I would try here.

    Thanks for looking. I can be reached at 717-468-0430 if interested.
     
  12. sirana

    sirana Notebook Deity

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    To be honest, after paying so much money on a notebook I would not want to carry it with me everywhere anyways :p But that's just paranoid me.
    So you see, even the 3920xm is weaker than the 980 but costs probably a lot more (like 800-900$ upgrade to an 3610).

    There are numberous situations in which you would want your CPU to perform top.
    #1 Reason for me is to be future proof. Future game engines will get more optimized (Cryengine 3) for more than 4 cores, also more and more are starting to move to 64-bit clients (Next Frostbite engine).
    #2 As mentioned, some games like GW2 etc are already now pretty much CPU limited, so why would you not want to have a better CPU.
    #3 I noticed on most desktop quad cores they run at around 70% load when a demanding game is running (like 2600k & BF3). At 90%+ load your GPU will get hold back from the CPU.
    #4 Not all Pro Apps support Cuda for rendering, so I really benefit from raw horsepower of 12 Cores w/ HyperThreading enabled.

    After my recent thermal paste upgrade my CPU peaks at 75-77°C btw, so it's not unbearable hot :)
     
  13. jaug1337

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    Ivy Bridge mobile CPU's are comparable to first gen i7's in most every way. You might get a little extra power out of it, but it's not necessary for 99% of uses out there except for users that do a lot of video encoding. Even then the time saved is marginal compared with an Ivy Bridge mobile quad. You can get an NP9170 with i7-3740QM, GTX 675M, 16GB DDR3 1600, 256GB SSD for about $1700 and is more powerful in most aspects than the X7200 as configured.

    In any case good luck with the sale. In my estimation, $1200-$1300 would be more reasonable.
     
  15. jclausius

    jclausius Notebook Virtuoso

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    @lipoufski,

    To address hulawafu77's concern, you could add a line in your ad that the GPU(s) are upgradable to AMD 7970m (XFire) or NVIDIA 608m (SLI).
     
  16. Tirenz

    Tirenz Notebook Evangelist

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    Yes, the hint that it´s upgradable should be a good one. SLI GTX 480m is not very powerful at this time, even one GTX 680m is way more than that.
    I just saw here in Germany a X7200 with GTX 460m SLI on Ebay and it was a couple of weeks online and no one bought it. Then it was sold for about 900€... should be about 1100-1200 Dollar at this time...

    About the CPU discussion: Depend on what you want and what you need, of course.
    Even my i7-970 CPU is still more powerful than the extreme Ivy Bridge mobile CPU´s. Of course, if you look at performance/ watt it will be different. And battery life is a different thing, too. But if you just look at performance, regardless of everything else, which was the reason I bought the X7200 in the first place, it´s still better. If they would make an Ivy Bridge 6 core mobile CPU, it should perform better, I guess.
    There are games and apps that appreciate more cores. Not that big amount, but it will get more. So I am outdated fast with my GPU´s, but my CPU will be efficient some more time. Of course, the P270WM/ 570WM or whatever they gonna call it, will be quit more powerful.
    Some benches compared between my i7-970 (not overclocked) and the 3920XM (taken from notebookcheck except Passmark - I know, not the most reliable source in the word):

    Cinebench R11.5
    i7-970: 8.14
    i7-3920XM: 7.1

    Super PI 2M -> here you see, ok, single threaded 3920XM is more powerful! Due to 3,8 Turbo Boost versus 3,46
    i7-970: 27.331
    i7-3920XM: 22.5

    wprime 1024
    i7-970: 174.1
    i7-3920XM: 262.7

    Passmark CPU
    i7-970: 9779
    i7-3920XM: 9379
     
  17. Zymphad

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    That would make even less sense. $1600 base pay and then to pay full aftermarket price to upgrade? That's another $1600 for the 680M and another $1000-12000 for the 7970M. That's ridiculous.
     
  18. sirana

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    Honestly, a 680M SLi configuration with those specs should be fine for ~3000$. For the true enthusiasts, that is. The casual gamer is fine with mobile CPU's, of course.
     
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    Casual gamer, lulz...
     
  20. sirana

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    Sure. The smart gamer would be looking into the near future when deciding on hardware that should do him well for a few years. It's easier upgrading the GPU in the worst case, even on Notebooks. NextGen CPU's often require a new mobo which is sure as hell won't be available as an upgrade for the current model.
     
  21. Silverfern

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    if the guy is a hardcore gamer, i doubt he will be keeping the same config for more than say 2 years, so i feel buying the best hardware doesnt really make sense. getting the best CPUs to pump out best benchmark tests are really all for the sake of benchmarking