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    Sager NP8120 with 4 HDD in Raid 0 ?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Sectorz, Jul 1, 2010.

  1. Sectorz

    Sectorz Notebook Consultant

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    Hi I planing too sell my Sager W870 for a new Sager NP8120. But I have some question for those have already purchased this laptop before. I would remove my DVD Writer for add a Hard drive caddy to full the systems with 4 WD 500GB Black Edition. My questions is, it possible to put the 4 Hard drive in raid 0 ? I very hope yes :D.

    Second questions, someone know the exactly date when the 5870 1GB will be available to put in Crossfire on it, a reseller in Ontario have tell to me 2 or 3 week ago that will be possible soon, but not news from him since that time.
     
  2. Sectorz

    Sectorz Notebook Consultant

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    Up, no rep can answer too this questions ?
     
  3. Neil@Kobalt

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    The NP8120 is built on the X8100 chassis which only supports RAID 0/1 on two HDDs so unfortunately you can't put a third HDD in an array, let alone a forth.
     
  4. Sectorz

    Sectorz Notebook Consultant

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    You sure ? I have see that Eurocom offer 4 HDD in raid 0 and without the HDD in the DVD writer slot, they offer it for 3 HDD.

    check here http://www.eurocom.com/

    I just would know if the bios of the Sager can do it too.

    [​IMG]
     
  5. Neil@Kobalt

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    Yup pretty sure, chassis only supports RAID 0/1.
     
  6. Shane@DARK.

    Shane@DARK. Company Representative

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    I have no comment on the post about Eurocom.

    Confirming what Neil said, it is not possible to connect three hard drives together in this beast with RAID, let alone 4. This has also been confirmed by Sager.
     
  7. Bytales

    Bytales Notebook Evangelist

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    Maybe eurocom made a modification of their own.

    So far theiy are the only ones to offer crossfire 5870 on the x8100. No one else offers it. they are the only ones to offer 24 gb ram on their d900f. they are the only ones who offer the ability to use the ODD bay for the fourth hdd.

    Who knows, maybe their also the only ones who offer the ability to raid 4 hdd in raid 0/1/5/10.
    Maybe their x8100 is something new modified by them since it has the crossfire 5870 and the new cpus x40qm

    You should ask them directly.
     
  8. Neil@Kobalt

    Neil@Kobalt Company Representative

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    Hi Shane (RE your edit) sorry about that! Though I don't know how much it would cost to ship a can of coke from London to Rhode Island ;)

    I can't comment directly on another company as it's against nbr rules however I can shed some light on the compatability of components in chassis:

    In order to use 24GB RAM in the D900F chassis you of course need 3 x 8GB SODIMMs - at the moment only Samsung have confirmed this part as existing (Samsung RAM is used in the same way as MICRON RAM is used i.e. you will see it being sold under other brands such as Corsair and OCZ). However the status of the Samsung 8GB SODIMMs are sample only so they don't actually exist at production level yet and therefore you can't purchase them at the moment.

    The 4th HDD in an optical bay is an aftermarket caddy which works fine, we have used several of them and shipped in our customers systems. RAID support is a different matter though as some motherboards have the optical drive port on a different part of the controller circuit because they are dedicated Optical Drive ports on a laptop chassis, rather than on a desktop where you just take any of the SATA ports.

    The new 740QM, 840QM and 940XM have just been released and are all supported in the higher end Clevo chassis. We have had samples in and I would expect everyone else has too so I would expect to see them rolled out across the Clevo integrators very soon. They are slightly more expensive than their predecessors but the performance increase vs this slight cost increase is well worth it. Only talking about 5% on the cost at most.

    On the crossfire 5870 in X8100 chassis, all I can say is that it isn't officially supported.
     
  9. Shane@DARK.

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    The whole problem with having more than 2 drives in RAID with this model is basically that the hardware doesn't support it. It's not a simple software setting to change to get RAID to work on all 4 drives; the motherboard would need an entirely new southbridge for this to work.

    However, I know that Eurocom does have a rep on this forum, and all questions should probably be directed to him. I believe his username is John@Eurocom.

    @Neil: Ah, I forgot about the insane shipping costs. Also, was that ever a saying that was popular across the pond? "Jinx, you owe me a coke!" I don't want to seem as if I'm demanding soda with absolutely no reason behind it!
     
  10. Sectorz

    Sectorz Notebook Consultant

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    OK thx for your answer, but now for 3 hard drive I have two resseller from Sager and I not count Eurocom on this 2, that tell it supported. Why do à laptop that can take 3 hard drive, but only can put 2 HDD in raid ?
     
  11. fzhfzh

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    It depends on the motherboard architecture, it's just like for some desktop motherboards, there's some sata raid arrays, and then there's some sata ports that can't be used for raid, it simply could mean that there's only 2 sata ports that are raid supported.
     
  12. Bytales

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    What do you mean it's not "officialy" supported ? Isnt the 5870 same type of board as the gtx 285m ?
    Or are you reffering to crossfire support in the chipset that powers the mobile core cpus ? (Hm55, pm55) ?
     
  13. fzhfzh

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    It's meant that there's no bios support.
     
  14. pasoleatis

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    I believe It is needed a physical direct link in order to do that, a small piece of hardware which take care of it. If i is missing no RAID 0.
     
  15. ibraveheart

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    Will we see Dual 480s Sli in this Laptop
    this year or next ?

    Will it be faster than Ati 5870 CF ?

    Thanks
     
  16. Daniel Hahn

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    This year. A little bit faster, but way more expensive. Unless you really use some application that needs lots of cuda cores (i.e. not games), don't go for GTX 480M SLI. Take MR HD 5870 CF or wait for GF104 based Nvidia cards with SLI.
     
  17. ibraveheart

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    Thanks friend :)