Sager NP8652 or SAGER NP9752 /S

Hi Guys!

I am a first time buyer for any kind of gaming laptop. I know there are many posts like this but I too am trying to make the right decision. I have browsed around the forums and wanted to know what people thought about these two models. Basically a few questions I had were:

1) Does the 980m vs the 970m make one model worth it over the other?
2) Does the 4790k vs the 4720HQ matter when it comes down to gaming?

I fear that the laptop with the 4790k will produce unholy amounts of heat. Im trying to keep my budget around $1600 or so. I'd love to hear what you guys think about the pros and cons to each of these models.

Thanks!

edit*
-I put the /S at the title because I considered it. The sound of the 512GB SSD is nice. However, I am referring to the base model Sager NP9752

 

The big difference is that the NP9752 is a desktop replacement, while the NP8652 is meant to be portable.

The NP9752 has a socketed 4790K and 970M (6GB), which gives it better upgradeability. The 970M can also be upgraded to a 980M, although it will be considerably more expensive than the NP8652. It's also rather slim for a desktop replacement, but still bigger than a portable laptop like the NP8652.

The NP8652 has a soldered 4720HQ and 980M (4GB), but weighs about two pounds less and is considerably slimmer.

The NP8652 runs cool for such a powerful laptop in such a thin form factor, especially after a repaste. Initial reviews seem to indicate the NP9752 runs rather hot. At this point, you're probably better off waiting for more reviews of the NP9752 to get an idea whether or not the heat is going to be a real issue.

Depending on the heat issue, it will come down to whether or not you want the absolute best performance, and the ability to upgrade the CPU and GPU down the road, or if you're willing to sacrifice a little performance and the upgrade options for increased portability.

 

nicely summed up by delta in gaming u wont see much difference between the 4720hq and 4790k, there are only gonna be a handful of games that would noticeably profit from the extra cpu power, the rest is gonna be bottlenecked by the gpu before hitting a cpu limit.
the 980m brings about 30% more performance to the table, u have to decide for urself if its worth the extra money or not.
naturally im biased towards the 9752 since i just got one myself and absofrigginlutely love this sexy machine i can understand the need for better battery life on the 8652 though (4-5 hours as opposed to 2-2.5), so ull have to weigh ur options based on ur needs concerning portability, battery life, tweakability/upgradeability and performance

cheers!

 

Are you implying 9752 get 2-2.5h battery? All indications have pointed to less than 2h using it even lightly unless I missed something.

 

well plus or minus half an hour doesnt really make a difference here i was just referring to the manufacturer specs that state 2-2.5 hrs

 

Not calling you out but curious where you see this spec. I am a power mizer when on battery operated devices. Would be nice if I could push a 17" version to get over 2h. Seems from initial impressions 1.5h ±.25h.

 

no worries@calling me out u can find that on the spec sheet posted in the batcave released by clevo...

 

Yep. There it is. 150 minutes. With 970m. For some reason I decided to upgrade to 980m a couple of hours after I hit phase 2. What say you now? Very optimistic 119 minutes? Lol.

 

no idea tbh, but i guess definitely less than with a 970M seriously though? who cares?

 

if I can get 2 hours and 10 minutes in my PC on a battery with 8% wear, I'm fairly sure a single-GPU 980M and some throttlestop magic could do *FAR* better.

 

That and your machine does not have optimus With the display dimmed a little you should be able to get a decent run time.

 

Moving away from the derail about the battery, now.

1) The 980M will most definitely provide a noticeable performance difference over the 970M. Neither card is a slouch, though, so your question sort of hinges on how you intend to use the laptop. Most would say to go for the 980M if your budget allows.
2) Not as much as the GPU. In situations where the CPU bottlenecks the GPU, then you might consider a better processor. In this case, neither the 970M nor the 980M will experience this with the 4720HQ (let alone the 4790K). The 4790K may get you a few extra FPS, but it won't be a night and day difference.

It can get hot, but the NP9752 does an impressive job of moving the heat, and as Delta_V pointed out, a repaste of the thermal compound can help all the more.

 

The 980M is about 30% ahead of the 970M so yes it is a decent amount ahead. 1080p both will do pretty well, as time goes on that extra performance will let the 980M keep details higher for longer.

The difference in the CPU is there but as mentioned is not huge for gaming, the 4720hq is a pretty fast chip for the 970m/980M.

 

Please note, this is purely 60fps gaming that's being discussed. In unlocked FPS gaming (such as with an external, high-refresh monitor) and certain CPU-heavy games (like Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Crysis 3, etc) the 4720HQ would likely run out of available TDP and begin to downclock. While in a lot of gaming this will not be an issue, I *MUST* point out that if you ever wish to truly dump a size-able load on the CPU, the 4790K is not only the better choice, but rather the ONLY choice, if you expect your CPU to keep the clocks you set it to. Unless you purchase a P17xSM-A, of course, but I believe a fully fitted-out P17xSM-A might cost more than a P750ZM, and it will also be a 17" model, which is not being looked at here.

60Hz gaming? Likely no matter. Doing a lot of (especially x264) video rendering? Matters. Gaming above 60Hz? Matters. Gaming very high resolutions (forces GPU bottlenecks)? No matter.

 

4720HQ is built-in the motherboard you have no choice to upgraded later on .. while 4790k is upgradable but in fact it's the last powerful CPU in it's generation so you also go no were more than the available 2 CPU's

For me i would recommend 4790k (but if there is heat, i should adapt with it or fix it with pastes or Cooling pads)

 

not quite correct, since well most likely be able to upgrade to broadwell so heres to hoping for a worthy 4790K successor