Sager NP9870-S horrendous LCD panel

does anyone knows if there is any aftermarket LCD panel that can be replaced in this machine that covers Adobe RGB? The one that comes with the machine from factory does cover only 90% of SRGB and anot even 60% of NTSC and not even dream with ProPhoto.. It also have a pretty hard to get rid of blue cast, and I have tried using a Colorminki and. Spyder Elite and no way... It is a shame because is a super machine when configured with the top components, but the screen ruins it for anyone trying to use it for any graphics related job.

I'm thinking into return the machine at this point, but before that I was trying to see if there is anything that can be done. Sanger does not offer the 4K screen where ch seems to be better.

And if I have to use an external monitor to get accurate colors, then it makes no sense to spent this much money on a laptop.

Thanks!!!

 

What's your current panel exactly? Use hardware info to have a look or device manager.

 

You could´ve configured your P870DM with the 4k AUO 100% AdobeRGB from the start, just had to pick another vendor. AFAIK the AUO is the only current panel with that colour space.

Edit: ok, just did a quick check on panel look. Since you need an eDP interface panel, and i suppose you don´t want a 6-bit panel, there isn´t really any other choice than the AUO 4k.

Since i also work with images/video, when i purchased my P751ZM i also looked and looked for the best panel available and had to settle for the 15" 4k Sharp (~%100sRGB and 8-bit). Close 2nd was a FHD AUO but it was a 6-bit panel.

 

Ebay, look for panel auo 4k ( b173zan01.0 ) and 4k edp cable: ( i believe it is: 6-43-p8701-020-1L HTK(KCA8) )
You can ask resellers, clevo partners, ebay... for parts. And there is a tutorial how to replace the screen but as you don't have 4k, you will have to switch the edp cable= opening entirely the laptop. then replace the screen. There is a thread from Akaraah who already did it.

 

Use AIDA64, then go to the screen/monitor to see the model

If you have the same screen as me, use this profile:

LG LP173WF4-SPF1 Spyder5Pro Calibration Profile

Do not attempt to use that profile if it's not the same screen though

 

Thanks. The AUO 4K panel is not 6 bits, it's 8. I have being buying from Sager for some time and had a good experience so I'm the kind of a loyal customer tha does not change. But I sent my machine to Eurocom to have the panel replaced by the 4K. I know is going to have much better gamut, from the start is a real 8 bits, for the critical color work I have to external Eizo 10 bits. About profiling, even if you are using the same panel, a profile done on a different computer might not work the same on yours. If you are serious about color, get a ColorMunki or a Spyder 5 and use DisplayCal which is free and much better software than the ones that comes with the devices.

 

Is the default panel that you sell with the 1920x1080 machine.. It's a really bad one, delta errors over 8 all over the place, that panel should not be sold. It's impossible to calibrate even close to a real thing..

 

Thanks everyone for the suggestions, I'll get back my machine this week and hopefully will be much better.

 

The profile will not help with what OP is looking for, i do similar work and i just hooked it up to my work monitors. Both being 12 Bit panels. The difference is insane, if you get the chance to see them side by side.
Its not feasible for everyone to use external monitors, but since i dont use my laptop LCD at all, it doesn't bother me as much.
Its just sad that there aren't any good 17" panels out there for this high end a laptop. Heck a HP laptop which costs half the price comes with a 99% AdobeRBG Panel.
Also not everyone is comfortable with 4K displays, they are not feasible for pixel heavy work. Sure **** looks pretty and all, but people like me who are used to high refresh rate displays for games, 60Hz just doesn't cut it no matter what. (i use a 144Hz IPS monitor for CSGO and DOTA2).

 

Luckily I never saw a good screen so I don't know what I'm missing. to me, this LG Screen is one of the best I have ever looked at. I am no pro in these things, it just looks great with very nice colors.

On the other hand, you probably know that I am the biggest anti-4k d00d:


How does anyone in his right mind buy a 4K screen laptop?

 

Haha yeah, just that every other person ends up suggesting the 4k panel. The scaling in windows is horrendous and in certain places reading text is just painstaking and its not like this system is light enough to keep on ones lap for extended periods.

 

I had a friend who bought a Lenovo Yoga 15 inch laptop that comes with a 4K screen, that's the first time I got to see how ridiculous it looks on a laptop. It came with a 200% DPI scaling from the factory. half the things looked nice, and the other half looked blurry as if the laptop was running on a non native resolution.

I would only get a screen/resolution that I am comfortable reading with 100% DPI scaling. Just my 2 cents

 

I dont know if it might fix it or not but i saw that control center in option somwhere has a control to manually chose scaling text for title, txt and buble... This option seem to be new after updating to 5.0000006 and with the 4k screen.
I didnt try it as last time i tried to changing scaling from 150 to 125 in windows option display then after log off(was mandatory to apply) , laptop had a huge issue. Only fix was a back up.

 

12 bits panels??? Which ones?

 

Its some Eizo Coloredge model. I can get the model no. on Monday if you want.

 

The problem with getting truly professional grade displays comes down to power and cost due to the volumes of production.

 

True.

But then again, 4k 17.3" , is stupid.

Do you have any info on why, the 4k Panels were even introduced for the Clevo Laptops? instead of high quality FHD or QHD variants?

 

Eizo doesn't use 12bit panels on their monitors - and afaik there are no laptop/desktop monitor panels higher than 10bit (Edit: a search on panelook.com confirms this). What you must be referring to is the 3d LUT bit depth, which nowadays is usually 16bit on the Eizo higher end models.

 

Weird. You might be right, when they first installed the monitors, they were going on about the 12 Bit panels and how much better they were compared to the old 8bit (emulated to 10bit) they were. I will check on Monday.

 

Consumer demand and what the panel manufacturers are offering, the IPS 1080p panel is fine for gamers which is what most of our machines target.

 

I'm using Eizo for about 10 years, never seen a model or advertisement of a 12 bits panel. Yes 10 bits panel with internal 12 bits 1D LUTs and today's models use 10 bits panels, makes no sense to use more since GPUs don't deliver more and software does not deliver more either, with 16 bits 3D LUTs that are even better.

Then the reason of using a 16 bits LUT wit a 10 bits screen with either 10 or 8 bits screen is that it can relocate values much better without introducing banding or clipping product of the compression of the curves.


This Is a real 8 bits panel vs a 6 bits one like the stock HD one installed on this machine and most PC laptops

 

Yeah i have a feeling they were bragging on about something entirely different. Or i misunderstood them. But the Monitors did cost around $3200 a pop. So im guessing they are the once as you say with the 16 bit LUT.

 

Yes, those are the monitors I have at the office and at home, thats why I'm so picky with the laptop screen. They used to cost $5K a few years ago.

 

Hope this isn't too off topic. I was surprised to see that my monitor, which I believe is the 15.6 version of the one you discuss in the OP, scored high on notebookcheck (the LG).

http://www.notebookcheck.net/The-Best-Notebook-Displays-As-Reviewed-By-Notebookcheck.120541.0.html

I do think maybe the AUO's are the best on that list for 15.6 FHD. But I don't want to lose G-Sync. Someone in another thread said that even though the AUO aren't g-sync certified, they are g-sync capable, so you can do g-sync with them by just fooling the rest of the system into thinking it's one on the whitelist (I don't recall the details exactly).

 

HI! just to let you all know, I'm doing good progress into get the best out of this screen, have my report almost ready, but I'm back at work so my time is limited during the week now. Also I'm learning a lot more on color calibration and will share my findings once I get it all in a way that is understandable

For those who have followed this thread, and have seen me a bit frustrated, please do not take that as a "I do not recommend this panel" I think even with the defects it have is the best I've seen on a Laptop so far.

for what an expert told me, it is a bit hard to calibrate becuase the backlight is a blue led with red and green coating, makes white, but is not standard, so one needs a spectrometer to calibrate the colorimeter and then calibrate the screen... l have all that, but is complex to understand the process... yes confirmed by this expert after seen the measuement data, that the panel have some gamma bumps... not tragic unles you are a freak like me.

I have all that data now, so I'm going to finish my report and send it as soon as I can to eurocom. Sorry guys I hope I have more time...