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    Sager Notebook NP9262 Help

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by rrrobinson1236, Jan 27, 2008.

  1. rrrobinson1236

    rrrobinson1236 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I am planning on ordering the Sager NP9262 with the Nvidia 8800M GTX SLI with 512mb DDR Memory in SLI mode but i was wondering, why this http://reviews.cnet.com/graphics-cards/nvidia-geforce-8800-gtx/4505-8902_7-32132889.html Nvidia 8800 GTX comes with 768 mb of memory on its own.

    Anyway, I was wondering why they arent going to add the 8800 GTX 768 MB in SLI for laptops, and why I can only order the 8800 GTX with 512 mb of ram in sli mode?

    Please reply back :)
     
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    rrrobinson1236 Notebook Enthusiast

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    just bumping the message.
     
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    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    I think you are mistaken in thinking that notebooks are using desktop videocards.

    8800 GTX and 8800 M GTX are entirely different in specs and size.

    The Clevo D900C/D901C (aka. Sager 9262), as well as other high-end gaming notebooks, use mobile videocard modules (either standard MXM or proprietary).... NEVER desktop cards (with AGP slot or PCI-E slot).

    The Sager 9262 is using MXM-IV videocard modules... the 8800 M GTX is the fastest mobile card available with 512MB GDDR3 (single card)... and SLI would yield 1024MB GDDR3 (dual cards).
     
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    rrrobinson1236 Notebook Enthusiast

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    So The Laptop version of this card will work really well, even though its video ram isn't as great as i expected?

    By the way... For Processors, would you rather take a

    Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor E6850 / 4MB L2 Cache, 3.0GHz, 1333MHz FSB,
    or a
    Intel®Core™ 2 Quad Processor Q6700 /8MB L2 Cache, 2.66GHz, 1066MHz FSB, or the
    Intel® Core™ 2 Extreme Processor X6800 / 4MB L2 Cache, 2.93GHz, 1066MHz FSB.

    Price really is not a problem for me, but i need a really powerful desktop replacement notebook that can handle a lot of multitasking and the latest games and newer ones as well. (Gears of War 2, etc.)
     
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    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    I guess you are still new to the "videocard" game (for both desktops and notebooks)....

    Most important rule:
    - the total RAM (video memory) of a videocard DOES NOT tell you how good it is.. because its not as important as the GPU itself

    Example:
    - a 512MB 7300GT is NOT as good as a 256MB 7600GT

    or for notebooks:
    - a 512MB 8400M GS is NOT as good as a 256MB 8600M GT

    Get the idea???

    So a 8800M GTX is pretty much as good as a desktop 8800 GT/GTS (new versions).

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    As for CPUs... it will depend on what your budget and needs are:

    - get a Quad-core to future proof yourself for new and upcoming games/software that will have multi-thread support... as well as it will be extremely useful for video/audio editing/ripping/converting.

    - if you want a dual core, I would just get the E6850... its better than the X6800 and cheaper too.
     
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    rrrobinson1236 Notebook Enthusiast

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    yeah, lol i am new to this videocard stuff... for my old desktop, i would just go for the most expensive card and hoped that it would be good.

    so an 8800M GTX is the best for a laptop now, because of its gpu?
     
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    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    Correct... nothing beating it at the moment.

    and FYI, the amount of videomemory is really only useful for storing graphical representations (ex. rendered textures in games)
     
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    rrrobinson1236 Notebook Enthusiast

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    oh yeah, would it be safe to overclock the processor in a laptop? I know the quad core can overclock to 3 Ghz easily on a stock cooler, but inside a laptop, would it be safe?
     
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    Cool, That is really good to know! Thanks m8.
     
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    I would not recommend OC'ing in notebooks usually (especially the CPU)... it usually won't yield as great of a result as it would on a desktop where you can get a third-party fan or cooler.

    and.... You cannot really OC the CPU in these notebooks... the BIOS does not give you the options.

    So you can try to do it through software (ClockGen, SetFSB... etc..), but it will be very difficult.

    As for the videocard, you can OC that if you want... its pretty simple (just drag the sliders)... but make sure to burn in each OC step and monitor the temps.
     
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    Im assuming the 8800M GTX has some sort of program to monitor temps, kinda like the old Pentium 4 Processors. What is Burning in though, and how would i use it? Oh yeah, thanks for the info on the CPU OC'ing, but what processor would you suggest (you seem to be a professional in notebooks)
    for really intense usage? ( Converting videos, games, media center, etc.) The three are listed above a few replys.
     
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    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    For now, the only way to monitor the 8800M GTX for temps is using nTune

    And burning in the videocard, means to make sure that its stable. Use some benchmarks to test:
    - 3DMark06
    - games demos (like Crysis or UT3)

    As for CPU OC'ing... do not do it... you seem to not be up to it.

    Just get yourself a Quad-core and you won't look back. :)
     
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    Cool, so the quad core is the way to go for me? Thanks for all of the help man, and thanks for helping me with my video card problems
     
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    I personally would a get quad... seeing that all the new games are CPU intensive and have multi-core support (such as the Unreal 3 engine games... Gears or War, UT3, Bioshock, etc...).

    And I do Video/Audio editing and converting.
     
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    Cool, I will definately go Cuad Core then. By the way, I noticed youre in So Cal. Carlsbad here! Crappy weather now, huh? Btw, I got Unreal Tournament 3 for the PS3.

    For video converting, maybe you could help me, I know its the wrong thread, but I dont know how to get my Ipod tv shows to convert into wmv for my zune. They are protected, and I was wondering if you knew what I should do.
     
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    thanks a ton, lol. I love the itunes store, but my ipods always break, so i use zune now. real nice, but its missing stuff, like a clock.