Sager and DX11?

Hey all, long time Sager fan here but currently running on an asusg51 which im giving my gf soon. Is there any word when we will see a DX11 card in a sager 15inch?

 

Your best bet is to wait for CeBIT in March.

 

Well...look at this! http://www.deviltech.de/deviltech.p...e48b/cl/alist/cnid/8a142c3e4143562a5.46426637

Seems they are here already.

 

That looks sweet but we need to load them on the boat and bring them across the pond to the States!

-K

 

Not really. European resellers have included ATI cards in configurations previously, but never actually shipped them as far as I know.

 

DevilTech is a well regarded reseller in Europe. If they have the MR 5870 up for pre-order, then something must be going on. This is starting to prove the information that I have been weening out from North American resellers to be potentially more true now. We might all be in for a surprise when CeBIT kicks off in three weeks.

 

They may be respected, but so is Sager. And Sager definitely thought the 3870s were to be released in Clevo machines too.

I'm not saying Deviltech's lying, more like Clevo has been known to make changes. If Clevo releases the 5870s as well, there's going to be a lot of happy owners.

 

The situation with the MR 3870's was different back then, as well as the performance of the card itself, which wasn't very good. The politics has changed and ATi is rolling full steam ahead now. All eyes are on Clevo to release the MR 5870. It would be great to give prospective buyers more choices for the GPU if the MR 5870 is released.

 

Exactly. It's definitely great for prospective buyers. The 3870s were an adequate card for their time, especially for the price. The 5870s are only going to better that, unless of course, ATI charges an arm and a leg for them.

 

I'm just hoping that the Clevo 900F will come with a 5870 and perhaps something better than the I7 Extreme chip. Hey a man can dream can't he.

 

I have heard little but the little i have heard is the affair with Nvidia may just become a threesome

 

I'm almost certain we'll see a 980X+5870, but really hope to see a CF there, that would pull me out the AW camp like a blackhole pulling a can of coke from the (R< Event Horizon)

 

I'm curious as to how the MXM MR 5870 will play out. The one in the new Asus G73 is a proprietary card and knowing Asus, they probably shaved a few corners here and there compared to ATi reference specs. Aside from that, the MR 5870 has a lot of overclocking potential in a Clevo as they are initially only 60W TDP cards while the current GTX 285M's are rated for 75W TDP. The cooling systems in these notebooks will allow enthusiasts to bench for the sky and game through the night. But I still have the corner of my eye on that rumored GTX 380M that is proposed to make it's debut at CeBIT; I have no plans on investing in it rather I want to see what Nvidia has up it's sleeve to answer the MR 5870.

 

What are the chances of Radeon 5870 or GTX 380m being released in NP8690 in a month or two?

 

High. 10char

 

the 5870 is 50w TDP

 

That's even better. Part of me is glad that we have entered an ATi era again to get Nvidia to pick up the pace in competing products.

 

They said I was crazy last year when I said I perfered ati over nvidia. " drivers and games are so much better"

 

The ATI 5870 chip is 50W, the Nvidia card is 75W, so the ati card will be higher than 50W

 

the PCB is usually about 5W. But how do you know the ATI chip is 50W ?

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5783266&postcount=260

 

That doesn't say anything about the TDP of the ATI chip. That's actually what I said as well, that the PCB is about 5W.

 

ATI was good enough to list solid reference specs for each card on AMD.com this series.

http://www.amd.com/US/PRODUCTS/NOTEBOOK/GRAPHICS/ATI-MOBILITY-HD-5800/Pages/hd-5870-specs.aspx

 

Hey Guys,

This question might need to go into the " what laptop I should buy" section but its about a Sager so....... I wanted to see what you fine people thought about which would be a better option if you were wanting to play games like the new Alien vs Predator that uses Directx 11 and others. I'm looking that the X8100, which for anyone who doesn't know, is a I7 chip with a dual GPU 280M\285M setup. I think it should be released soon so I hear. My other option is waiting for the 900F to be released with a 5870 or better card. Like I said before I am wanting to play AVP which is supposed to take advantage of DX 11 cards. On a side note the demo graphically didn't look so hot, but after all it is a demo so I'm just waiting to see. Anyways long story short even if the Clevo 900F comes out with a 5870 or even a 380 GTX I wonder how much slower in Frames per second it would be compared to the X8100. If I get the 900F I plan to get the best I7 Desktop chip that you can order which I guess with be the 975 Extreme.

So I hope you guys(and ladies) can give me your valuable opinions. Ty

 

That's impressive. Then I would expect a Mobility 5970 in the future with a 65W TDP.
Also that's 1.12 Teraflops vs. the 285M's 576 gigaflops... but I guess those numbers may not mean that much in the end.

 

I'm the type of person that it would actually tick me off if they released a Mobility HD5970 later on based on the RV870 core....'cause if that was ATI's plans all along then they should have held off using the 5800 model numbers on the desktop HD5770 GPU.

 

It will take 32nm fabrication to fit an RV870 derived core in a notebook. Rumor has it, Ati's 6xxx series will release by the end of this year!

 

Nice, I would like to see Ati and Nvidia fighting harder and harder for the notebook market. It is after all where the money is going as consumers are moving from desktops to laptops.

I also think Nvidia has been milking the high-end segment of the mobile graphic cards market. The 9800M GTX for example was horribly overpriced.

To give you another example, take for instance the 240GT: it has 96 shaders, 40 nm, 69W on the whole board and costs about 90-110 USD. In theory you could stick this card in a laptop and have similar performance as a 260M GTX. Yet the 260M GTX is 390 USD.

 

If Clevo starts using the 5870s, do you guys think that the laptop price will go down a little bit?

 

Yeah I don't buy that. Doubling the stream processors and memory bus width of the desktop HD5770 does not produce double the TDP for the desktop HD5870 so why would it in the notebook market?

You can run two Mob. HD5850s with GDDR5 for the same TDP as one Mob. HD4850+.

They did stick the desktop GT240 in a laptop....it's the same GT215 core that the GTS250M, GTS260M and GTS 360M are using.

 

That's the same thing I'm thinking about. I saw some tech news site saying ATI is working for revised RV8XX chip to counter attack nVIDIA, so my guess is we can expect mobility RV870.