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    Sager wants a copy of my ID/credit card?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by cloudblade70, Nov 30, 2013.

  1. mattcheau

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    you've missed the entire point of this thread...

    request for ID/CC verification from merchant = normal
    request for ID/CC verification from scammer = not normal
     
  2. ajnindlo

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    Keep in mind it is easy to fake an email so it looks like it came from any any place. So even if it looks like it came from xoticpc.com or sagernotebook.com, it may not have. It would be harder to intercept a reply back though, expecially if the connection is secure. There is a reason major retailers don't ask for pictures of credit cards and ids.
     
  3. Calibre41

    Calibre41 Notebook Evangelist

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    In the UK the retailer doesn't get to see your card or hear any of the detail, when paying you'd do so in a pop up window via Visa Secure Server, all the merchant knows is the invoice was settled. And he gets the last 4 digits of your card and a transaction ID from VisaSecure for reference.

    To further that, the item is then posted to the address held by the bank which is registered to that card, so even if someone had your card details, knew your 8+ digit alpha numerical (case sensitive) password, the best they could do is have things sent to you lol.

    They also seem to somehow know where your ordering from, I tried to buy a laptop from a UK supplier, local to my home but while I was in France (only 3 or 4 hours away for me in the car at the time) and it wouldn't go through, 5 minutes later HSBC are on the phone asking if everything's ok! I was then cleared to go ahead and buy it, and reminded to let them know if I was going abroad .

    Sounds like we have a very different approach in the EU/UK
     
  4. MrDJ

    MrDJ Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    this is true Calibre.
    sometimes they can be over protective though and block the card even though a simple search through my records would show ive used card at same place for past 15 years.
    just for example, i bought a brand new bmw 3 series for £31,000 with no problems but an hour later it was blocked at the same petrol station ive used for past 15 years.
    also had the card refused abroad as now you have to inform them of your travel details even though a month before i bought 500 euro's for travel to spain.
    suppose its better to be safe as if the protection wasnt there we would be screaming at the banks soon enough something went wrong.

    as i said earlier, i also got an email from alienware ireland before they were taken over by dell.
    they wanted the exact same details as above and i told them to bog off.
    still got my laptop (and i wish i hadnt now, but thats another story).

    yahoo.com was hacked over the weekend and i got a mail from yahoo saying they had locked my account. went through the usual protection questions and changed password and as soon as i got into my account the inbox was spammed with failure to send messages so someone from america got in. o's.
    so i would never send any important details via email no matter who its too.
     
  5. Bullrun

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    It really depends with whom in the US. My Visa card with Navy Fed. can be a royal PITA but I understand. If I tried to buy a new Clevo it would be denied. I know: a big unexpected charge plus no history with the vendor; call them first.

    My HSBC was much less stringent.
     
  6. ajnindlo

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    BTW, in the US we are protected from credit card fraud. If someone even steals your card your maximum liability is $50, and zero if you report it before it is used. And you are not liable for false chages, just call and say you didn't make the charge. This assumes you didn't make it, and didn't sign for it. I am in a rush, but google this to see your rights...
     
  7. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    There was a period with a lot of credit card fraud (and it still happens now) so resellers are all pretty cautious.
     
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