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    Should I get the single 8800GTX or go for SLI in the 9262

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by DivineRiku, Jan 22, 2008.

  1. DivineRiku

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    What do you think.
     
  2. Bog

    Bog Losing it...

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    What are the prices for the single 8800GTX? The SLI? What card does the SLI rig utilize? A little more info would help people give you better advice.
     
  3. Deodot

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    If you order the SLI, you still wont get the second card until at least late feb. I would order with one card. Get the laptop, play with it for a month and then decide if you think you need another card or not. I don't know if you're getting some kind of discount if you order both now. Otherwise that was what I would do. :)
     
  4. MegaBUD

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    lol.. whats the point going with a 901c if your not going SLI? dont tell me its for the quadcore lol... or the 3hd in raid... hahaha
     
  5. DivineRiku

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    Well its

    SLI ENABLED DUAL (2) 512MB PCI-Express nVidia GeForce 8800GTX (1024MB Total) w/GDDR3 DX10 Video Cards (User Upgradeable)-( + 695 )
     
  6. MegaBUD

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    lol... just go with a m570ru if your not going SLI...

    and dont tell me you want to upgrade next year or in 2 year... its a lie... nobody upgrade... just buy a new one in 2-3years... its not a desktop where you can just change the videocard each new generation...

    yes my brother have a 8800gt with an old P4 because the mobo have a PCIE slot (started with a 5xxx to a 6x00 to a 7900 and now a 8800) :)

    Games doesnt need a fast cpu... just a fast gpu...
     
  7. eleron911

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    That`s BS. New games depend just as much on the CPU as on the GPU. Sure, the GPU has the most impact in average frames , but in a physics bound game, like UT3 the cpu chokes in its blood.(running 2 cores at pretty close to 100% load, that says alot)

    The 9262 is SLI capable, who says you really have to go that way? The best features ALSO INCLUDE 4 cpus,3 hdds,desktop performance and it`s far more quiet than the 579x.

    To the OP , get one card, maybe in a few months prices will go down for the 8800M GTX. And by then you`ll see if you really need it,just as Deodot said.
     
  8. MegaBUD

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    I LOL @ everyone thinking that a cpu is important when your playing game! its 2008 not 1995! slowest core2 vs fastest quadcore will have 2-3fps more MAXIMUM and thats if your playing on low resolution... anything equal or over 1600 will kill this 3fps difference

    and dont tell me that 3dmark give a better score... yes it does but its a lie... just take the 3d score and forget the cpu score...

    but... its for gaming only... but who need a quadcore to surf online or watch a divx or zip a files? ZOMG! i ziped a files 2sec faster that you!
     
  9. kevi290

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    Another problem with SLI, a bunch of guys in the Dell XPS M1730 thread were having problems with SLI drivers--enabling SLI often slowed things down, caused crashes, and all around caused them to spend lots of time finding working drivers.

    I'd hold off SLI just for the poor driver support.
     
  10. DivineRiku

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    Okay, so yeah, in a few months they'll probably have 8800m ultra cards. lol
     
  11. Tawnos

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    I considered the NP9262 for it's three HDD bays, so it's not unthinkable. Despite that, I went with the NP5792 because I felt that the 8800M GTX was going to be enough for the next 2 years. Now that I have had a chance to use the machine for a couple of days, my opinion has not changed in the least. My experiences with the m9700 SLI laptop have taught me that SLI looks and benches a lot better than it really is. If a game is playable on high, then it's playable on high...and it's completely meaningless that your FPS is 130 with SLI and 90 without. If more games like Crysis come out, then I could see SLI being justifiable... but there simply are not any games coming out that are going to need a pair of 8800M GTX's any time soon. For the record, the single 8800 renders Crysis just fine on medium (DX10) or high (DX9). That's good enough for me.
     
  12. DivineRiku

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    Can I run something like UT3 on DX10 Vista Ultimate 32-bit with settings all maxed out?
     
  13. Rorschach

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    it can run it easy on max, UT3 is actually a perfect example of why sli is almost completely pointless.
     
  14. Jergo

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    For me the main if not only reason for choosing the 901c is that it's (a lot) quieter than the m570.
     
  15. Justin@XoticPC

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    FYI, there was a new firmware released in the last few days for the M570 that allows new toggle controls for the fan. Users have reported on the forum that the Mid Range Fan Toggle has made a big difference in the overall quietness of the machine.

    Just in case you haven't ready about it yet :)
     
  16. eleron911

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    Yep,on the med fan speed now it`s perfect! No more complaints about the 5791. Just wished that the 8800M GTX were priced at about 500$ ...

    Megabud,try gaming on your normal CPU frequency and try a power saver one where the cpu is downclocked to half. See what results you get.

    I`ve tried playing prince of persia the warrior within on my older nx9420 ,super smooth on AC,but choppy on power saver(just the cpu was downclocked,the gpu was set on full performance.) Choppy as a chopstick.

    Try it and we`ll talk more after that. If cpu speed didn`t matter,why would anyone buy anything above 1.5 Ghz ?
    A gaming rig needs 2.2+ ghz to run everything smooth and fast.
     
  17. MegaBUD

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    Well i play game that need only a Pentium 1 with 4mb videocard :p so on power saving or not doesnt matter to me... videogame... its not only crysis or COD4... theres better game pre-2000....
     
  18. Aryantes

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    If you are not playing any new games, then there is no point in having this discussion and there is also no reason to have an 571ru.

    Just because you can play doom2 on your 486 does not mean that CPU is not important now.
     
  19. Derq

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    cpu and gpu come to narrow eachother in the following years.. we will see cpu+gpu in one chip in the future. it also depends on games what they tend to use a lot.
     
  20. MegaBUD

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    thats when im on battery...
     
  21. DivineRiku

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    WOw, you guys hijacked the topic. >_>
     
  22. hanko panko

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    Huh?

    You didn't read about the superfast, cool, quiet and robust performance of the 926x series!
     
  23. DivineRiku

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    Yeah, plus one of the reasons I chose it over the 5792 is that its future proof.
     
  24. MegaBUD

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    I LOL@everyone who really think they gonna upgrade their laptop
     
  25. DivineRiku

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    Why are you loling its kinda really possible that you can upgrade.
     
  26. hanko panko

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    You're not new to Sager are you?

    In my 8890 I upgraded memory, hard disks, processor. The new 926x series is even more upgradable. I expect to run this rig for about four years and am sure to upgrade the system after 2 years or so.
     
  27. MegaBUD

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    LOL why not just buying a new machine? why not taking the full 4gig of ram when you bought it? whats the point of changing a processor when your playing game? the hard drive... you went with SSD?
     
  28. DivineRiku

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    I just love the fact that you can upgrade the processor.
     
  29. hanko panko

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    Why asking these questions when you could have read answers all over this forum?

    I buy new systems once in 3-4 years but when components become much better and/or cheaper, upgrading is allways an option.
     
  30. DivineRiku

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    Exactly is cheaper to upgrade than to buy an entire nother Sager.
     
  31. bhattsan

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    Getting back on topic...I would personally get single 8800 m gtx now. It is already the fastest laptop card in the market, so I doubt youll worry about downscaling games anytime soon(except for crysis, of course ;)). If you REALLY need the extra fps, then go with sli, but I think its a pricey upgrade.
     
  32. Noctilum

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    Just get the single for now and then upgrade to a second one later if you insist on getting the 9262. The 9262 has plenty of room for upgradability over the course of the next 3-4 years.

    And MegaBUD, man calm down. Quit thinking everyone on this forum is an enemy or something. Each and every post you make tries to make everyone look stupid and you superior. We are all just trying to give friendly advice.
     
  33. DivineRiku

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    Thanks, It should be upgradable way past 4 years, quad core processors arent just going to become obsolete with gaming just like that, when games will require that minimum of a duo core processor then I will still be ahead of the game.

    Also another question, can you put in another card without make it SLI.
     
  34. Vedya

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    Dont think so..

    Think about how long it took Nvidia to release the 8800m GTX after the 7950m...

    I would expect another high end GPU till Q4 2008, or Q1 2009.
     
  35. Magnus72

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    Of course a CPU is important. Take for example Supreme Command, you tell me if a CPU is not important? Hell I played Oblivion on my old Dell XPS M170 and the only thing limiting me there was my single core Pentium M, not the 7800GTX. If I have had a faster CPU the game would have run better even if it was a single core.

    Take my desktop for example, with my overclocking on the CPU all games runs better, not by a huge margin but they do run better with my CPU overclocked. So you are just plain wrong in stating that a CPU is not important in gaming.
     
  36. DivineRiku

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    Thats what I like about the 9262 you can upgrade the processor anytime you want, thats what makes this computer future proof, you can upgrade anything.
     
  37. delirium24

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    i would do what i did, get the 9262 with the single graphics card....im just going to wait a little while till the prices drop...or i have the money to purchase the second one....as of right now the single one is great too
     
  38. Tawnos

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    If you want to examine the significance of the processor? Take a look at my old single core m9700. Benched over 10k in 3DMark, but couldn't run Supreme Commander or Company of Heroes.
     
  39. DivineRiku

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    If it had a single core it really depends what was it Tawnos, cause if it was something that is like a year old or something or worse then I am not surprised but I have heard people running current games on high in Pentium 4 CPU's so I would say your processor or graphics card is just weak or your ram is insufficient.