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    Should i stay or Should i go

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Gmau-=The_|2ooster=-, Nov 28, 2007.

  1. Gmau-=The_|2ooster=-

    Gmau-=The_|2ooster=- Notebook Consultant

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    As most of u know the 8800's needs more then the cards to do the upgrade
    i purchased the 9261 on the premise that it was upgradeable. at no point did the reseller tell me that it was possible to do, so no blame on them. ( there crystal ball was in for repair) only to find we need a new mobo to be able to get the upgrade. my dilemma is that i have 2 days till my 15 days are up and i will have to pay for the upgrade. if i send it back i will have to pay for the first shipping that was not refundable and additional shipping back w/ insurance . I'm thinking about $150.00 total, and then go without a lappy till we can get the 8800's built and shipped back to me I'm thinking 4 to 6 weeks till then . what do u guys think i should do?
     
  2. Wu Jen

    Wu Jen Some old nobody

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    Lets see:
    Shipping it back now = $150.00

    Shipping it back later to get the new motherboard = $150.00
    Cost of new motherboard = $?? 200-500???

    Math seems fairly simple to me. :) Just IMO.
     
  3. Gmau-=The_|2ooster=-

    Gmau-=The_|2ooster=- Notebook Consultant

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    wu jen
    u would send it back?
    and wait till it comes out, build and shipped ?
    go without a lappy for 4 to 6 weeks?
     
  4. Noctilum

    Noctilum Notebook Evangelist

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    I would send it back if I were in your position.
     
  5. MegaBUD

    MegaBUD Notebook Evangelist

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    yep... i did the same... i canceled my command with rjtech and im waiting the 8800... its only its only +285$ more... and i tough it will be like 500!
     
  6. Wu Jen

    Wu Jen Some old nobody

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    Yes, yes, yes.

    I plan on sending my unit in, I need the new mobo that would support quads and I definately want the 8800's. I'm going to wait for the Petryn info, to see if it will also require a new mobo or if they can just do a BIOS fix. Soon as I hear yay or nay then off the notebook goes. The good thing about PCMicro is that if you ship it to them overnight they ship it back to you the same way. It's a pain not to have it but it's not the end of the world.

    If you can't do without it, then don't send it in. Keep it and enjoy it. I'm enjoying mine right now.
     
  7. zfactor

    zfactor Mastershake

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    if i had the option 100% send it back i wish i could have done this now. i ordered just before the info and recieved it and the 30 days ran out just before all the new info otherwise no way i would have kept it knowing all this now
     
  8. LD1302

    LD1302 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'd send it back. I ordered my 9261 under the same assumption you did (look what happens when you assume ;) ), however my time to return it without paying additional fees has expired. Really send it back unless you can't wait a month or so.
     
  9. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    As I said elsewhere, you've got to send it back in - you really have a golden opportunity in disguise here.

    The "cost" of going without for 4 to 6 weeks and suffering withdrawal symptoms will be as nothing compared to the gnawing pangs of what-ifs and self-disgust that will dog you for the rest of your life (well, ok, until you move on and get another system entirely in about a year or so) if you don't send it back.

    [p.s., alternatively, you could just send it back to me - the czech'll be in the mail :wink: ]
     
  10. steponz

    steponz Notebook Consultant

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    Enjoy the laptop and wait til the new intel chips come...
    Do you really need the 8800's?

    Come in is it really that worth it??

    I will wait and upgrade the mb when the new chips come out....

    Joe
     
  11. kl5167

    kl5167 Notebook Evangelist

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    This is a tough choice, the problem is that the resellers loose out a lot in this situation as do the end users. If I was least bit dissatisfied with the system and was told the 8800 would be upgradeable I would send it back without a thought. In this case I would call the reseller and see what kind of deal could be made for the upgrade since it was announced just after the purchase was made. I think they would be willing to work something out based on the time you have had the system. If not then make your choice.
     
  12. Exitium

    Exitium Notebook Enthusiast

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    If I were you I would send it back. I was almost in this situation. Sent an email to xotic the day before my NP9261 would ship asking to hold back on the order. Just got an email saying i'm on the 8800m list, kind of sucks to wait a month though. Sorry you'll need to pay for shipping again :(
     
  13. Gmau-=The_|2ooster=-

    Gmau-=The_|2ooster=- Notebook Consultant

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    i did call xotic and they told me unfortunately i have 2 choices
    1. send it back and get a refund(not the full amount, minus there shipping price $68.00) + the cost to ship and insure it back to them about $150.00 so the total of a $220.00 lose.
    wait till I'm happy, and the order is available,(who knows how long that will be) for a new lappy which will cost me $????.?? with the new mobo and the 8800's .
    basically I'm not paying for the mobo but i lose the $68.00 and i have to wait who know how long with no lappy. and pay to ship/insure it back


    2. keep it and wait to see what sager will offer as a discount for the new mobo. lose the chance to get the free mobo. which i will still have to ship it back and insure it and pay for the new mobo at the discounted price $??????


    the lappy does not go back to the reseller it goes back to sager so its not like im sticking the reseller with a lappy they cant sell.

    i am leaning towards keeping it, because i am happy with It (but P.Oed on the mobo swap) i don't want to go without a lappy for who knows how long and i dont want to spend another ????.?? on the upgrade to the 8800's right now. + if i do all this and go without a lappy for 6 weeks and get the new one only to find that i have to pay for a new mobo for the petryn when it comes out i will hang myself, but i still have a few hours to decide.
     
  14. deepblued

    deepblued Notebook Enthusiast

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    just keep it and have a peace/happy mind. $200+ is about 10% of your laptop cost. if it is considered as a 15 days leasing, it would cost you too much. plus, you don't need to frustrate youself.
     
  15. Wu Jen

    Wu Jen Some old nobody

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    Goodness, can you please tell me where I can get a laptop like his. Q6700, Dual 8700GT's in SLI, 4GB Ram etc for $2000? I.e. $200 being 10% of the cost. I would purchase 3 of them immediately. $200 is more like 4% of the total cost to be honest man. These things aren't cheap. :cool:
     
  16. MegaBUD

    MegaBUD Notebook Evangelist

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    hehe anyway i made a deal with eurocom for a very nice m571ru... i just have to wait 20-25days :(
     
  17. Gmau-=The_|2ooster=-

    Gmau-=The_|2ooster=- Notebook Consultant

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    yes i would buy 3 more for resale I paid around 38 or $3900.00 for it so$220.00 would be 5.641025641% about lol
     
  18. Jon93

    Jon93 Notebook Guru

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    Yeah, I would say send it back, better do it now and save 500$ than 200$ in the end you get 300$
     
  19. Gmau-=The_|2ooster=-

    Gmau-=The_|2ooster=- Notebook Consultant

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    yes i think u are right i should have returned it ,but i am keeping it. i cant go without a lapptop right now with me traveling and all. i hope that they give me a nice deal next time i upgrade which i think they will. i was very hard to deal with for a day or 2 and at no point did they become unglued they were very professional.
     
  20. steponz

    steponz Notebook Consultant

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    I am in the same situaition...

    I will keep mine... I use it everyday... And loose alot more money than 200 if I send it back... Just in productivity time....

    I think your doing the right thing.... I think I am more excited about the new cpus then graphic cards....

    Joe
     
  21. Wu Jen

    Wu Jen Some old nobody

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    It kind of begs the question though...

    Why did you make this a poll when you were going to keep it anyhow? I.e. 72% of the members here saying for you to return it and giving you reasons why you should.

    Just wierd, "Hey guys tell me what I should do because I can't make up my own mind." They tell you...then...."Nah, I'll just do the opposite."

    Makes a poll kind of pointless, no?
     
  22. DFTrance

    DFTrance Notebook Deity

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    I would ship it back and get 1x8800M GTX (almost as good as 2x8700M SLi). The math is prety simple as Wu Jen said.

    Trance

    PS: I'll be upgrading when a definitive solution comes in for Penryns. No more trusting any kind of estimate from this forum. I will start really trusting my guts on this hobbie as I usually do professionaly (it takes the pleasure out of it a wee bit but will make my time and money more well spent). First we try, then we trust ... well I allready did the first part. For the second, standards and maybe's are out of the window, you'll have to show me what you got before I even say anything about whatever the subject is on Clevo's. Actually, is easy to predict. Finantially is always the worst case scenario for the customer whatever the rumours are. By the way, you really don't wanna know what I'm thinking about what Clevo will do regarding Penryns but that is another matter (I forsee an entire new model leveraging the full blooded sales over the marketing power of a new Intel CPU architecture, technically ... fully avoidable as the current box is built well enough to take it in, commercially well you do the math).
     
  23. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    I guess nobody told you that the Sager 5791 only supports HDD speeds of upto 1.5 Gb/s ( SATA 150)
     
  24. Aryantes

    Aryantes Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    What is even more questionable is the amount of complaining and unhappiness even before receiving the laptop, due to 8800's being released soon. Then, given perfect opportunity to rectify the situation and still not taking it.
     
  25. steponz

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    Hey I just got an email back from Justin about installing the motherboard yourself....

    It is an option...

    I will likely being doing this... but not until the Penryn's are defined as good to use.....

    I would just enjoy your machine now.... You can always upgrade later when your getting board with it.... Upgrading a motherboard is not such a bad thing... In most desktops you have to do the samething... Hopefully in the next couple of years some standards will be made on notebooks.. Instead of this bs free for all...


    Anyway.. my 2 cents..

    Joe
     
  26. kl5167

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    We can do the upgrade ourself. Hmm this sounding a bit better. But I will wait a while longer. I don't want to go through this again in a few months.
     
  27. darkoroje

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    Makes absolutely no difference, there are no HDDs available today that can exceed the SATA 150 speeds for bust transfers. Sustained transfer speeds top out at 60-70 MB/s even for fastest SATA disks.
     
  28. darkoroje

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    Well it is of course up to you but I think you are making an expensive mistake. One 8800 is faster than 8700 SLI, consumes less power, there is less noise and heat. Not to mention that SLI drivers have lots of problems and in many games SLI mode cannot be activated or does not bring any benefits.
     
  29. Gmau-=The_|2ooster=-

    Gmau-=The_|2ooster=- Notebook Consultant

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    i was going to send it back and would have but i had to weigh out what was more important and i didn't think that they would charge that much. i had i found out in fl. i was traveling to ny the next day. i had 3 days total to remove the programs and pack it and ship it with one day lost in travel and i had to go to Nc on Friday night . had to pack for my trip so time was a major factor and with the amount of time without a lappy waiting for the 8800's .
    at the time that i had to make my decision the pole was 7 to 5 it was not that clear that everyone would have sent it back
    i polled this to see what was others experience with returns and if it is worth it . i could have gone without a lappy for 6 more weeks but it would have been HELL to do it.
     
  30. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

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    oh yeah thats going to turn alot of people away :confused:

    just one 8800 gtx will probably be as powerful as 2 7950gtx's so you canot go wrong there, i think you should just get one.