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    So I am surprised nobody tried to install latest Intel HD graphics driver and report here!....

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by king601, Apr 5, 2013.

  1. king601

    king601 Notebook Consultant

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    MY stor
    the latest intel HD graphics(v 15.31) driver is horrible (the one that suppose to give you 10% boost and extra power saving) . It gave me BSOD in normal windows booting and even in safe mode , I was lucky to evade that by just pressing last know configuration. Otherwise , I would been thought it was hardware issue. All I did was un-install current driver , rebooted , install the new one , rebooted , and noticed windows Aero stopped working giving me message about Windows Desktop Manager stopped working. I thought that a restart will fix that for me and that is where BSOD start came in . Lucky , I did what I said above , and un-installed the new driver , however , now intel hd graphics driver (does not matter what version , downloaded 6 diff ver) , it would not detect my hardware. So to try tackle every option, i went and un-intstall amd driver , and cleaned any registry left over from amd and intel but that did not work either. After 3 hours , I noticed that every time I un-installed Intel hd graphics , windows automatically installs something called Standard VGA Adapter and requires reboot. So I blocked it , and tried hopelessly and Intel HD graphics ( vr 15.29) driver was able to Identity my chip :) . Then I went a head and I installed amd back. But then again my curiosity wanted me to try again for latest driver .So I un-installed amd driver, rebooted, uni-installed Intel HD driver , reboot , then Install latest Intel HD graphics driver , and it was success . I was surprised , Windows Aero was working , no error , the new intel HD graphics GUI (btw it sucks , it looks like 8-bit squares :eek:) and everything was working flawlessly . After that , I went a head and installed amd driver , rebooted , and the error is back again . Windows Aero not working , Desktop Manager services stopped working , and finally BSOD upon reboot. I was able to fix it by just doing above . So apparently , there is a conflict between AMD driver and new Intel HD graphics driver that will caused horror to my laptop. Intel seems to have messed up the driver from inside so bad :mad: you will think you notebook broke. I would like to hear if anyone successfully tried and got it working . Maybe after all it could be something wrong with my notebook but I think it not .
     
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    Which AMD driver are you using? I have read everywhere that 13.2 beta will screw up Clevo laptops with the 7970M.
     
  3. MacHater

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    The issue has been reported, by myself and some other members here:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/699962-updated-clevo-driver-thread-20.html#post9151035

    AMD's current drivers simply aren't compatible with the latest Intel drivers at all. Doesn't matter which version you pick, it still won't work properly. DWM will crash.

    My guess is that AMD is using at least one wrapper DLL that handles API calls from DirectX/OpenGL (which includes Aero) and determines whether to pass the call to Intel drivers or the discrete AMD card. However, the wrapper is most likely missing a couple of newly added functions in the Intel driver so it is never passed to the Intel driver. This is proven by DWM crashing since it always (attempts) to run it on iGPU, even in "Force high performance" mode in CCC. But games continue to work fine when forced to run through the AMD discrete GPU.

    Totally speculation on my part of course, but it seems plausible enough for me, especially after seeing the leaked internal document which supports the speculation.
     
  4. king601

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    The driver I am using is version 13.1.

    No The only Intel driver that is incompatible is the latest one. Every other older one are working with amd ,never had an issue. Do you always clean registry , left over using driver fusion ? . I do that and never had problems. If you tried that and still having problems use Ati man un-installer to clean everything related to ati
     
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    I should clarify: I am refering to the latest intel drivers.. that is 3071 (plural because the package includes Display Audio as well as Graphics). None of the AMD drivers are compatible with it, no matter which one you pick.
     
  6. king601

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    Oh but I thought Intel already have display audio driver bundled with graphics driver. How do I know ? , because when I stopped installing automatic installation of VGA standard adapter from windows and tring install older driver , it asked me whether to overwrite the new files(somehow they were left over ?) both display and audio with older version and I said yes.
     
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    13.3 Beta driver for Enduro systems and Intel 9.18.10.3071 driver, no problems almost. Only one - I cant complete windows performance index error in direct 3d test.
    Clevo P150EM Windows 8 here :)
     
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    what is worse is different issues can occur on different individuals of same 7970m
     
  9. MacHater

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    This particular piece of Intel's 3071 driver is the problematic part that does not like AMD drivers:
    [​IMG]

    That is, "igd10iumd64.dll"
     
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    It's not just AMD. I have An Alienware with Nividia card, latest driver 314.22. I also updates to the latest intel graphics and lost my aero as well. I noticed that in performance information and tools/visual effects. Aero peek and glass effects were not even listed in the options to enable or disable. I just reverted back to the old intel drivers until this issue gets resolved.
     
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    On my Thinkpad W530, Intel 15.31.3.64.3071 driver make my win7 dwm.exe crash, with Nvidia optimus, lenovo driver 311.00
     
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    Worked perfectly for me on windows 8. (No aero)
    Maybe you guys should upgrade :p remember to use start8 or classic shell to remove the horrible metro design. I find that alot of things work better on win 8
     
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    Good to know then ;)

    So it's both AMD and NVIDIA switchable graphics.
     
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    Other than Windows generating a pop up in the systray saying it was installing a VGA driver and a audio driver than doing a reboot....and it has only done this once, I have not had any performance issues. I am not running the latest NVidia driver as the last one caussed some issue with my NVidia Inspector profile but all is good for me. I'll monitor this thread in case I need to revert my Intel driver. I'll also include a screen shot of both drivers from the device manager. I'm running a Clevo P170EM with an NVidia 680M

    NBR.jpg
     
  15. smellon

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    No issues here.
     
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    Works fine for me,
    I'm on Windows 8.

    13.3 beta with the 7970m
    Sager np9150.
     
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    I think I was just lucky in my timing, but this past week I re-installed Windows 7 from scratch (after giving up on Windows 8), thus I had to download and install the latest drivers. I installed the latest Intel HD drivers just released, as well as the latest nvidia drivers. I have had ZERO issues with my 680m. My laptop has been running like a dream, and hibernate working perfectly as well.

    You might have to uninstall the nvidia/amd drivers first, then uninstall the Intel drivers, then re-install them with Intel first, then your GPU drivers. When I was installing Windows 7, nvidia drivers didn't let me install because it said the Intel drivers had to be installed first. So, installed Intel, rebooted, then nvidia. All is well.
     
  18. smellon

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    I can confirm that is the order I followed:

    Chipset, HD4000, Vga (Nvidia)

    with a reboot between each.

    Edit: That was when I first got my laptop. I updated Nvidia within the last week or two and just yesterday updated intel HD4000. No issues though.
     
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    Ya its the same culprit , so it looks Intel messed up the their drivers.
    I did exactly the same thing as you did, that is actually what I do always but I always clean after using driver fusion. I think you got it working becuase you were doing fresh installs which means that they are no left overs from previous drivers.No matter how you clean your pc there must be some leftovers and in this case these left overs are conflicting with Windows aero.
     
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    This issue has been around for months, since 2012. All drivers after Intel 2932 conflict with AMD. I'm more inclined to blame AMD on this, since for me, AMD is very consistent in demonstrating to me, they couldn't care less that I paid $600 for their 7970M. It's more important to fix CFX for desktop users, possibly 1% of their userbase. Makes no sense to me.

    @antebios, your post is useless, it's not pertinent to this thread. Can gloat about your 680M working perfectly in the countless other threads that praise the 680M.
     
  21. king601

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    I did not have problem with previous drivers that conflicted with my amd card.I am surprised that your having problem conflicting with amd driver with older versions as well . Usually I do clean ups before installing Intel or AMD drivers and it never resulted in problem for me. If I was you , I would been formatting my laptop as soon possible since I don't to have headaches with problem whether during the installation of drivers or not detecting my cards.