So apparently the mobile 1070 is close to a desktop 1070

source : BENCHLIFE

Guess I know what GPU I'm buying in august then ^^. take those infos with a grain of salt .

My guess Nvidia will show us everything around Gamescom in Cologne, Germany. This event will start in a little less than a month. My 'fear' now would be to not be able to have a 15" gaming laptop with a 1070 inside ^^

GTX 1070 Mobile

• GPU Clock speed: 1443MHz
• Boost Clock speed: 1645MHz
• Memory Clock speed: 8008MHz

GTX 1070 Desktop

• GPU Clock speed: 1506MHz
• Boost Clock speed: *1683* MHz
• Memory Clock speed: 8008MHz

I am more than impressed by Nvidia Oo, but I do hope 15" 1070 powered laptops will be available, I think Aorus can do that at least, but God they're expensive in Europe...
Source : http://wccftech.com/gtx-1070-for-mobile-cuda-core-count/#ixzz4FV5KC2Ct

 

"To conserve battery life, GTX 1070 too will feature a lowered TDP than its desktop counterpart" - really, to conserve battery life?

The leaks aren't really accurately portraying what is comming anyway....

 

Those boost clocks for 1070 desktop aren't even accurate, WCCFtech is a joke of a website ...

GeForce GTX 1070 (Desktop) 1920 @ 1506 - 1886 (Boost) MHz

 

Ah you're right OO, but the original post comes from benchlife not wccftech, just happened to read it on this website while browsing for pascal mobile news .

I don't know if that's true but it might be, after all Nvidia did state that they wanted to close the gap between mobile and desktop, since Maxwell we saw tangible reasons to believe that it would be the case for Pascal

 

Actually it seems Notebookcheck made the mistake on the Boost clocks, strange, maybe it is an AIB 1070 they are giving Boost clocks for, the Nvidia manufacturers page has the same Boost clocks as Benchlife .

 

Oh, usually notebookcheck are very serious,

The boost clock comes from Nvidia official website :

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/10series/geforce-gtx-1070

 

interesting.... wondering what exactly is missing

 

Hahaha, they say early august we'll know .

 

You would think people who publish leaked information would know or care about their stuff... But phrases like this make it obvious they don't. I wonder if it's nvidias official excuse to gimp cards, anyway.

 

No one knows if it's leaked info, a fake or maybe a 1070 mini edition, wait & see , I read that early august we'll know about pascal mobile.

thing is this 1070 will have the TDP of a 980M (slightly higher), so sadly IMO the 1080 will be reserved to 17" DTR, no more x80 in 15" laptop ^^

 

Yes, but missing in number only, the performance able to fit in the 15" will outstrip the 980m's currently used

I thought the 1060 was for the 15" models? The 1070 would be too hot?

1070 in the 17" Medium DTR models, that used to have the 980m and 980m SLI.

The 1080 will be the heavy duty DTR models, like those with the 980 desktop mobile and 980 desktop mobile SLI models.

 

i think we might see the 1070 in 15" laptop and 1060 in 15/14", the mobile 1070 might have a tdp that is not that far from the 122W mark well supported by modern 15"

 

ive drawn 180W+ with my 980M in my 15 incher and it barely broke 70C, so thermals shouldnt be an issue here

 

I maxed at 130W, 68°C some pikes at 73/76°C on the Witcher 3/Tom Clancy Division. That's why I'd be shocked if i don't see at least a 1070 in a 15 incher. the p650SG/Batman can easily handle this.

 

Laptops confuse many desktop people

 

Yeah...add to that the fact that now you have a 1070 desktop and 1070 mobile, without any M suffix to differentiate them.

 

but, but, but....theyre THE SAME! *marketing talk* and that especially across different laptops, ODMs, TDPs and form factors *rollseyes*

 

Oh yes, some good ol' custom asus mxm 1070 board with weird Vbioses : get ready for some (well deserved) prema donations I tell you....Pascal is going to be a headache.

 

No comment on potential names, not yet.

 

There... I fixed that for you. I expect the Pascal headaches will be minor compared to the ride we will be in for as NVIDIA continues to metastasize.

 

With 1070 as a replacement for 80M cards mean new refreshed Aw15/17 laptops will have max 1070 graphics. Dell will most likely use same motherboard for Aw15 and 17 because Dell prefer do it that way now... The buyers of Alienware can purchase Dell's proprietary graphics amp and better graphics if they want more performance than what a mobile 1070 can give. Yeah, the G/A is a nice feature when you can't have the best graphics inside the laptop!!

 

Good thing for Dell they only made the GA x4 pci-e speed, it's gives them a chance to make more money and offer a GA 2.0 at x8. Of course not backwards compatible.
That's how how you screw those pesky customers that thought they didn't have to upgrade the system.

 

It was also a first gen product, which we know in electronics can be hit or miss.

 

...and also go the nvidia route and provide proprietary GA drivers that cripple the first gen GA while boosting the second?

Sent from my Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10

 

Come on N.D.A. just end already ^^...!

What's weird for me is that they didn't push for a new MXM standard that would support >GDDR5 speed, at least not officially.
So they kinda downgraded the Vram speed,..maybe they wanted to make the pascal GPU compatible with current barebones (MXM-3b) after all, they do have a lot of pressure coming from MSI, asus, alienware etc. who don't want to inject more $$$ in R&D ^^.

It's a shame however some games/applications could've really used this extra speed bump

 

Or you can use newest <updated> graphics drivers especially made for their products from Dell support page Dell recommend that you use their drivers for a smooth experience. Why bother with new updated drivers from other places?

 

That's brilliant. Maybe they can pre-bake drivers on a read only chip. We better stop giving them ideas

 

I think DELL already know what they want/should do And with more locked Os from the Redmond Morons with the new updated Os early August and Dell's love for Secure boot... This will be lovely
Everything after @Mr. Fox taste

 

Yeah lol at secure boot. Tyranny is always packaged as something for our own safety.

I know nothing makes @Mr. Fox sleep safer at night than having Secure Boot on his machines

 

Wait and see. More and more OEM's will lock you out from have the opportunity to disable secure boot in bios. But Dell is always in front with this crazy Crippling of bios and will be the frontman!!

 

Isn't it basically a push from MS to try and own and Mac-atise PC's?
Yeah.. Not happening on anything I own over $300.

 

Yeah, but OEM's also love this way to fully lock their computers. If owners complaining about this ****y practice on their models..., OEM's only point to Micro$oft. Everything is pure rotten. You don't own anything you self have paid high price for like before. You are and will be locked out now!! Without a choice for mod firmware... Forget laptops!!

 

That's very true. MS is an easy scape goat for OEM's . They could grow some balls and tell them 'no'.

 

Of topic but... Never trust on Nvidia http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nvidia-settles-geforce-gtx-970-memory-scandal-in-the-usa.html

 

Blindly trusting larger companies is never a good plan.

 

Secure, locked down, and idiot-proof isn't for everyone, but it is for enough people that it's the rule rather than the exception. There will always be smaller entities to serve, but don't expect MS and large OEMs to leave things unlocked.

 

Anyway .., OEM's can enable Secure boot by default, but you should be able to disable this **** self in Bios. People with no knowledge or want maximum security can leave this trash as it is. And not ruin everything for us who want something different. Let us have choices. Not cripple everything because of other people's minimum knowledge!!!

 

I don't think every single OEM locks down though. Find the ones that don't and stick with them, there's no use telling the ones that do not to.

 

Those that obey the edicts of Lord Micro$loth are sold out bond-servants and eunuchs that cannot be reasoned with.
Best way to deal with that sort of riffraff is not let them have any of your money... ever.

 

I can tolerate some lockdowns, but UWP in place of win32, custom locked drivers, custom locked bioses, BGA, all these craps need to stop ...seriously, I don't want to play buggy UWP (that won't work on steam) games on my soldered CPU/GPU ^^.

 

<You can tolerate some lockdowns.> Give them your finger and they will take your whole hand!!

 

This is the unfortunate reality. There's no good reason from a customers perspective to lock anything down. Just say 'no' and vote with your wallet until a better way of saying 'no' presents itself.

 

Well I have had to deal with enough people who went in and changed their BIOS settings or something similar.

 

This is about right for ANYONE that has worked at a help desk and had to deal with customers Meaker is hinting at above.

http://www.infolanka.com/jokes/messages/1768.html

 

Therefore, everything have to be closed and locked like a virgin in bios... The result will be that laptops will only be for noobs or clowns but not for enthusiasts who like to change things. YEAH Desktops her we come!!

 

Honestly, OEMs should implement a feature that unlocks the bios in a way that powerusers benefit and make it so that "noob" normal users won't bother (for example a popup box asking to convert a simple binary string into decimal numbers).

 

It's like forcing the autopilot of a tesla car, because some people don't know how to drive correctly

 

Yes, so that absolutely everyone will suffer the same fate . One of the drawbacks of having democracy. Everyone of power enthusiasts will get nothing, while others can have everything

 

Bad example, humans are terrible drivers we only use a tiny fraction of what our roads are capable of and the speed with instant reaction times.

 

Sounds like you have dealt with drivers in Mexico. My wife and I refer to the taxi drivers here as "Kamikaze" pilots. It seems like they have one hand on the horn, one holding their cell phone to their ears and go down a 2 lane road 5 wide.....so yes, it is like the users out there that don't know what they are doing messing things up.