So its final then? We will never be able to use Quick Sync? (NP8150, NP8170).

I just find it hard to believe there is no way to enable this on our laptops. I did read a while back that Lucid was working on something to get it to work with desktops and discrete gpu's but no new news has popped up from that lately.

 

Quick Sync?

Is this the ability of the laptop to switch over to the CPU on chip graphics?

 

So its final then, we will never be able to use Quick Sync.

 

You won't ever be seeing Quick Sync on the current NP8130/8150/8170 period, no amount of tricks will enable it on these machines.
Lucid's trick was similar to how optimus works with using frame buffer copying between GPU's and was on a box where the IGP was physically enabled but the discreet GPU was providing the output, however on these 3 laptops the IGP is physically disabled/off.

The IGP on the Sandy Bridge CPU's is optional to system builders, it can be wired to be active and used or not depending on the intended use of the board, when it's not wired it's the same as if it were physically not there, it's off, not used, not connected to the PCI-E system at all and not sharing cache with the CPU cores like it does when active.

Sorry if some of this comment is redundant but these "why can't we use the IGP?" questions keep popping up, well theres your answer.

 

As he said basically.

You will never get the P150/170 or any variant of it to use the embedded GPU

end of topic really

 

Anyone know why Clevo chose not to implement IGP in these systems? Seems like a very important and in demand feature. Alienware did it with their M17x-R3 and M18x and it's resulted in a lot of new customers.

 

So no matter what since the IGP onboard is disabled physically it wouldn't be possible. I see. Thanks for the replies guys, I guess I will just stick to Cuda for fast video conversions. Sorry if this has been asked before but it was because I actually did not know that QuickSync was related to the IGP, I thought it was just some feature with the Sandy Bridge Processors. I also did not know that they could physically disable the IGP on the SB processor.

 

You could ask Clevo, but given your Pro-Alienware stance and disdain for Clevo machines why should you bother? Users who live or die by the addition of switcheable graphics only have Alienware to choose from for configurations featuring the latest Sandy Bridge and GPU models.

It's a business and technical decision that consumers just have to live with, they can vote with their wallets and pick the only alternative if they so wish.

 

so you guys have quicksync and widi functionality? cause a guy with an r3 said that it seems like this were not functional on the r3 also (6970 version).

 

It's true I do favor Alienware notebooks but your description of my so-called disdain for Clevo is false nor does my question have anything to do with my own personal preferences.

I haven't tested quicksync yet (it should work fine) but you can now purchase the optional wireless display transmitter + receiver during configuration--this was not possible when the R3 first launched.

 

joker has been a regular contributor in the clevo forums before switching to aw. ive always found his comments to be mostly factual and fair. im sure he has his preferences as most of us do.
tell us how it goes with quicksync and widi when you have tested it. widi imho is no big deal as there are solutions out there that emulate it and actually do a better job (HD). as for quicksync, i guess we will have to wait for lucid to come out with their software before any real quicksync functionality.
even with these features i personally cannot see myself switching to an aw, but it would just be a nice to know fact for me.

 

Perhaps, but the post history in the X8100 subforums to me reflects a disdain for the Clevo brand and most of the rationale for switching to Alienware.

The answer to the OP's question should be quite clear though, either Alienware or bust if QuickSync is a do-or-die feature. I find it amusing that Alienware provided the functionality via an optional extra so that they could charge consumers more.

 

i think quicksync is a nice feature to have but i would not switch brands just for that. as a video enthusiast i use a few nle's and although a fast encoder would be nice, it only affects the last segment of a video edit (rendering the video). for me an sb quad core is fast enough. it would probably be of more interest to guys who like to encode/rip movies to disk which i dont do.
because i use my laptop for both business and gaming and i travel a lot, i could never have myself in a board meeting with an aw (people would most probably snicker), i cant use it in a starbucks or on a plane(cause its much bigger than the table), and i dont wanna carry a laptop bag thats gonna weigh heavier than my luggage. to me a clevo with its understated looks and desktop like power is perfect. no quicksync? so what.

 

I should be able to test out quicksync using cyberlink's media espresso 6, guess I'll do that when I get my m18x and let you know trvelbug.

Re: AW vs Clevo - I don't really want to get into it since it's OT. Neither are perfect.

 

Tell that to the OP then, it's horses for courses when picking laptops for personal use, be it for business or pleasure. I'm slightly disappointed that the Clevo I've ordered isn't supporting Widi at all despite the processor compatibility, that won't stop me (or the family in the interim) from enjoying the laptop when it's finally ready.

 

ok but i think you will need lucid's software still. media espresso will automatically default to using the gpu to encode. what lucid does is channel it back to the igp.

and yes, nothing in this world is perfect.