Some questions before getting the SAGER NP5760

After many long hours of research and decision making, i finally decides to get the Hypersonic CX7 (sager np5760, clevo m570u etc). However due to it being a custom made laptop, i cant see the laptop myself in person, i just choose it based on the specs and design. Heres my specs from hypersonic,com for around USD$3000 including delivery to australia.

-core 2 duo 2.16ghz
-2gig ram
-100 gig 7200 rpm HD
-7950GTX 512mb GPU
-not sure screen resolution

However, i need some profesional advice before getting this laptop instead of the other brands i searched for.

-Sony AR (non blueray version)
-Toshiba qosmio AV660
-Dell XPS M2010
-Dell XPS M1710

Firstly, how is the quality and brightness of the screen? I do not know which to choose over the WXGA+ or WIXGA screen. Brightness and contrast is more important then resolution for me. For example is that i would choose a qosmio with its (1440*900) screen than its WUXGA screen because its brighter and more vibrant. Same thing for the AR. The WUXGA screen from the AR is far to dim for my needs. The XPS M1710 screen is also not good enough.
So how does the Sager NP5760 screen compare to the qosmios and the AR and desktop screens?

So far from my research in terms of brightness

AR (blue ray version) - 120nitts (too dim for what i require)
AR (non blue ray version) - around 250-300nitts
Qosmio (1440*900) - 450nitts (best so far)
Qosmio WUXGA - 350nitts
XPS M2010 - 220 nitts (minimum required at least)
XPS M1710 - 170 nitts

So anybody knows how bright the NP5760 screen is? And the difference in the WUXGA version and WXGA+. If the brightness and contrast is the same, i would definitely choose the WUXGA screen. However if the WXGA+ is brighter, i would definitely choose it.

Second question is how long can i leave the laptop on? using the power supply. AS this will be my first laptop, i do not know the standby time for laptop. Can i leave it on overnight for downloads etc? If so how many nights can i leave it on for surfing the web playing games etc.

Thirdly hows the build quality of this laptop? Can it last for a long time?


Thank you all for helping me out total newb in laptops and i need profesional asistance from you guys Thank youuuu and any assistance will be much appreciated!!

 

This thread may help some
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=92137

I believe most of the Clevo laptops use LCD's by Philips.

Googling for that lcd model number i found this table-
Manufacturer LG Philips
Part Number LP171WU1
Screen Size 17.10
Panel Type TFT
Resolution 1920X1200
Brightness 200


On a personal note, the screen on my sager (see below) looks as gorgeous as the first day i got it. And is more than bright enough for me.

 

Here's the spec page from LGPhilips-
http://www.lgphilips-lcd.com/homeContain/jsp/eng/prd/prd300_j_e.jsp

It looks like the WSXGA (the screen i have) is a bit brighter than the WUXGA.

 

Sorry I can't find the link right now, but I remember seeing a post that listed the LCD panel specs for the 5760 (the WSXGA+ 1680x1050 & the WUXGA 1900x1200) including the Mfg, brightness, viewing angles, pixel pitch, etc. I've been on Google searching for it for about 30 minutes and can't find it... Anyone else remember this?

As far as how long you can leave it on - if it's on AC power that could be indefinitely. You set the standby time for what you like.

As far as build quality, I just got a 5760 myself (still working out kinks with driver installation). But I have a Gateway M685-E for work and the Sager feels MUCH more solid. The Gateway has a lot of flex in the LCD panel and the keyboard/wrist rest area where the Sager is quite rigid. I got the WUXGA panel on the work Gateway and the WSXGA+ on my personal Sager. Using the Sager for gaming, browsing, web, etc. and the Gateway for web design, Photoshop, etc. and I think I prefer the Sager screen.

 

I'm wondering what are you going to do if the Sager or Clevo for that matter breaks down. AFAIK, they don't have offices in Australia. [Oops, turns out there's Clevo support in Australia, my bad, My apologies]

 

hmmmm so basically

the WUXGA - 200nitts 500:1 contrast
the WXGA+ - 300nitts 600:1 contrast
the 1440*900 - 500nitts 700:1 contrast

What you guys reckon i should get for maximum performance and brightness. Im slightly leaning towards the WXGA+ resolution now. Thank you guys for your help

So if i leave the laptop on for 3-4 days downloading stuff it will be alright and not overheat?

 

I would be leaning to the 1680x1050 (I think it's WSXGA+ ???).

Leaving it on for that long should be no big deal, especially if it's on AC power. The CPU will most likely throttle itself back anyway since downloading isn't CPU intensive. You might not even hear fan noise either. If you do want to leave it on, be sure to change power options to "Do Nothing" in the "When I close the lid of my computer" section. It can be found under Power Options. Otherwise if you close the lid, the default is to go into "Standby" mode, which would stop your downloads.

[EDIT]
Yep, WSXGA+. See Wiki (a good image there for comparing too).
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FYI - I found what I was looking for earlier about specs:
Sager 17" WUXGA screen specs for 98xx, 97xx, 57xx
Sager 17" WSXGA+ Screen Specs NP9880/90 8790 4750 57xx

 

If the Dell XPS M1710's screen is not bright enough, then I can tell you that the Sager NP5760's WUXGA will not be either; I have tested both notebooks and found the brightness to be very similar between them. The Sager's screen truly is beautiful though.

Did you mean the first on was WSXGA+? Because WXGA+ is 1440x900.

 

oops sorry its WSXGA+. Thinking im gonna get that one instead due to the better contrast and brightness Thanks guys your assistance are truely helpful!!!

hmmmm the website you posted on the WSXGA+cscreen on the 5760 isnot included in the phillips website. Maybe they upfated the specs on it?

http://www.lgphilips-lcd.com/homeContain/jsp/eng/prd/prd301_j_e.jsp
the specs on this one is much better

Hard to make the decisions due to not being able to see the actual laptop.

 

Yes it is.
LP171WE2 is the model number for the WSXGA (1680x1050) that is used in the 5760. And it is listed on the Phillip's site.

 

Why not buy the machine locally in Australia from ITC:

http://www.itchannel.com.au/Dealer/Quote.asp?ProductSKU=BM735U/7950

I bought mine through the ITC reseller below:

http://www.p4laptops.com.au

It's the same clevo machine as the sager etc... but with a local warranty.

Steve

 

Remember though, WUXGA is more future proof supporting blu-ray 1080

 

FYI.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=101719

I would wait for 2~3 months to buy the unit to make sure there will be a new DX10 card built.

 

I would like to get it from an australian retailer, however, they dont provide the wsxga+ screen im loooking for. Therefore anyone know where to get a wsxga+ screen clevo in australia?

If there is none, i was thinking of getting it from hypersonic. Hypersonic design looks better as well with custom painted job

 

You can also contact:
www.xoticpc.com

They have a great custom paint job as well. Their pricing is competitive to other resellers in that they price-match.

If you want you system shipped to Australia, many of the US resellers can easily ship it to you..
- www.rjtech.com
- www.flawlesscomputers.com
- www.xoticpc.com
- www.hypersonic-pc.com
and more in the Clevo Guide

 

im interested and thinking of getting it from hyperpc..good price and nice design and name. However, living in australia, its hard to get warranty support from them. Sending to the US is very expensive. Do you guys use warranty services alot? I personally never uses warranty before in my whole life including pcs pdas and mobile cause i never encounter problems with them. Im scared to pay alot for a product wthout warranty coverage. Do you guys reckin warranty is important for this laptop?

 

These site that ship internationally, will also have the warranty covered internationally as well.

If you are concerned about the shipping costs (back and forth), I would recommend to contact the resellers that you are interested in about this question.

I believe that Flawlesscomputers.com will actually cover the cost of shipping for you if have their warranty. I have seen them send and have support for their products as far as Italy.

 

Strange, mine is a wsxga+ screen that I purchased a few months ago. Maybe email ITC and ask them.

 

i checked the itcwebsite and p4laptops and laptopchoice. None had the WSXGA+ screen...maybe i need to risk the warranty to get the WSXGA+ screen. MY brother had the sony FE series with the dual lamp and my neighbour is using the Qosmio AV650. Im afraid the WUXGA screen will be far dimmer after i see those 2 laptops So i need the brighter WSXGA+ screen
For the M570u user, do you reckon the WUXGA screen of the clevo is good enough compared to the FE and qosmio series?

 

Actually, I believe that current 17" LCD panels have similar contrast and brightness.

I have a WUXGA for my 17" Clevo, its 500:1 contrast ratio. Its plenty bright, I dont know which WUXGA panel that you saw was dim, but I know the current panels used, especially within gaming notebooks are all pretty high quality.

 

The Toshiba Qosmio's screen has dual lamps, which means it is extremely bright. It will definitely be brighter than the Clevo's.

 

The Sony AR screen have extremely dim screen..Very bad brightness and contrast level and its wusxga+. The XPS M1710 in harvey norman was beside a qosmio as well and the brightness was almost double. AS i cannot see the real clevo screen in real live, i had to ask and confirm before making a decision Thanks all guys!!
Thinking of buying the clevo then buying a 20 lcd to accompany it