Something Interesting

07.28.2018
Upload to pan.baidu.com for those ones who need it
This is the link and the password to download

Link: https://pan.baidu.com/s/1UXv91VTLkxqP_XYBKfvcRA
Password: yzf4



07.28.2018
ver 1.00.0001
Remove the os version limitation of the installation package.
Blow is the link and the password is yjmx

https://pan.baidu.com/s/1QAmwU3OLg8bv4zLuZRyd1Q
yjmx

 

Cool which models would this work?

 

@Mr. Fox @Papusan @Phoenix @bloodhawk @Prema @Scerate @ajc9988 @hmscott @Meaker@Sager @Johnksss @D2 Ultima @TBoneSan @Robbo99999 @Falkentyne @Ethrem @Vasudev

and all others ive forgotten

@xwhmm more details on this please...

 

Looks awesome.

 

What is it based on?
If its ECViewer then we're basicially back at square 1 :'D

also what happens if a clevo notebook gets 101c? Would it then just stop or what would happen?

 

The same thing would happen regardless of brand. The behavior is regulated by the CPU.

The CPU should turn the system off at about 100°C, so there is no point in the sliders showing a higher value than that. If you have a system that gets that hot, forcing the fans to run full speed is going to be too little, too late and the underlying problem needs to be corrected. Having better fan controls is not going to be a real solution in that scenario.

 

End results...

 

Not true, Ivy bridge notebooks have a TJunction of 105c, that's why I'm concerned.

I agree that the problem is then somewhere else entirely, but it could still be the difference between life or death of the older systems. Hence I'm asking what happens above.

From a coding perspective, it should be easy, since all he has to do is change if(100) to if(>=100) or if(<99), I'm still just suggesting this for secutiry reasons for older systems.

 

It was not understood you were asking about legacy hardware. Might have helped to be more specific.

I would be surprised if the slider only going to 100°C caused the fans to stop working simply because the temperature range showing in the software UI did not end with a number great than 100°C. It would be unusual for software to cause a hardware malfunction like that. But, weird things can happen with an EC. Conflicts with software reading from EC are not unheard of. The only way to know for certain would be to test it by forcing an Ivy Bridge notebook to exceed 100°C and report on the observation. But, even that might not be 100% conclusive because one brand or model might behave differently than another one.

 

I assumed you would know that I was talking about older clevo notebooks, since obviously the newer ones cannot reach beyond 100c, so I was not mentioning it.
The reason why I'm asking is because that's exacly what ECview does.

That's why I asked what happens if.

 

Things were certainly easier and better when we only had a "dumb" Legacy BIOS and we did not not have multiple layers of unnecessary firmware bloat like Intel ME and proprietary EC crap. The extra junk complicates matters, and all of the manufacturers do a pretty crappy job at firmware development. UEFI can make the UI aesthetically pleasing, but the complexities do not necessarily add value for end users. It's more about facilitating the control freaks that manufacture the crap we buy.

 

Not sure if this is just a UI concept but as you may know i'm doing something similar, and it already works:



Here's some advice:
Without being able to define each temperature range manually and without fan ramping options you will not be able to properly tune a fan.
Dont allow users to run wild, define max values at which max fans get triggered.
Allowing to route all fans like that is dangerous.
Laying out all fans horizontally like that takes too much UI room, put each in a tab for example.
Ramping is crucial for a smooth fan up and down.
Allow users to define the temperature ranges manually.
Dont use anything based on ECViewer
Make sure the software is able to restore automatic fan profile on termination / reboot

If you wanna test mine follow development here:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-drivers-update-utility-by-obsidian-pc.801464/page-176

 

well , I am looking a netdisk available to upload it.

 

yeah , you are right , it bases on ecviewer

 

I got , really thank you for your valuable advices. however I just made it to solve my own problems , so it might seems not that good

 

hey guy ,thank you for your advice and I had exactly deal that solution , the static just lazy to modify or I will change it to 90°C+ :），thanks again for you advice.

 

I would actually really love a non-CCC fan control and light control app without any hacking needed.

Sent from my OnePlus 1 using a coconut

 

Yes, wouldn't we all. I'd also like to see the fan controls in the BIOS, like a good quality desktop enthusiast motherboard. Having to rely on Windows software... especially a buggy program like CCC... really blows. But, laptops are not treated with the same TLC because they are laptops and they are not taken as seriously as they should be by the people that build them... excuses, excuses.

 

You don't need CC for controlling the fans...
It seems more than one solution is being developed at the moment.

Sent from my MI Note 2 using Tapatalk

 

I had test it on clevo p870dmg and it worked normally , if you have a clevo model , you can have a try.

 

Yes, I see and that's very encouraging. It has been a long time coming, and thankfully none of us held our breath waiting for an OEM to do something right. It seems that aftermarket, third-party and enthusiast-based solutions are the only ways anything ever gets done right. Those that actually get paid to do things right the first time never do.

 

Does your option integrate with the FN + 1 command? If I use FN + 1 then change it back down, will it re-apply the custom unit? As far as I last saw, you didn't have a version for SLI units, so I haven't checked it. Though I suppose I'd need to uninstall CCC to make proper use of it?

Will you be able to add light control to it? All I will really need is the ability to change basic colour and/or disable lights, and coupled with good fan control I'm happy as a daisy in a waterbed whatever that means

 

Nop no FN+1 support, since its not even labeled in the keyboards i dont care about that.
A proper hotkey SHOULD support all of my apps modes.
I can make something like this:
CTR+ALT+1 = EC Controlled
CTR+ALT+2 = EC MAX SPEED
CTR+ALT+3 = Manual Mode
CTR+ALT+4 = Silent Mode
CTR+ALT+4 = Normal Mode
CTR+ALT+4 = Extreme Mode

Also add the option for the combination:
CTRL+ALT
or
CTRL+ALT+SHIFT

I think its either all modes available using the hotkeys or none at all, what you think?

As for the Keyboard LED, the full software package i am doing will have that... it will be 4 apps:
- Control Station
- Updater
- Fan Control
- Keyboard LED

Although Keyboard LED is still very behind

And btw SLI support should be ready very soon.

 

To me the hotkey combo (which keys are used) is not very important, as long as there is still a way to force all fans to run at 100% at will and have them stay at 100% until I decide to change it. Is that what "Extreme Mode" means for your app?

 

No it's the CTR+ALT+2 = EC MAX SPEED

 

I don't suppose you can use the function keys since they're rather deep in the EC?

I'd say ctrl + alt + shift + the numbers sounds like a pretty good plan.

 

Is is possible to have just the fancontrol and the Keyboard LED? I have mostly custom drivers and the control station doens't work for older models like mine anyways :'D

I would love to replace my annoying CCC. It doesn't work properly anyways ._.

 

They are all independent apps... so its your choice

 

Neat! can't wait for the keyboard LED to finish. Hope you got some fancy features since I like having diffirent stuff on it. The options clevo offers are barebones as usual.

 

Hell yeah will try this on mine p375sm.

 

Its in the first post, however if it loses fan control and your hardware dies, he doesn't take any responsibility for it. Prema has warned people of using anything based on ECviewer because it tends to lose control.

 

Nahh man i don't mind of course there's the risk but hey i can try and monitor it (and yeah after i post it i've gone back to first page to see thats why i changed my message)

 

i tried John's sw and it doesn't work in server based windows. if this software also doesn't work then its time for me to migrate to consumer based window. fml

 

Well I have removed the os version limitation of server series , you can go to the first page and try the newest one which version is 1.00.0001.

 

will give it a try ty!

 

Ok testing it around GPU woking like a charm but the problem is the cpu it's not detecting the temps at all, is this what @Danishblunt talked about, EC losing control ?!?

 

So, there is nothing outputed in the log window?

 

It show's the cpu at 0ºC and in HWInfo the cpu is at 55ºC

 

what's your cpu?

 

try to run with administrator?

 

Sorry for the late reply yeah i've run it as admin mode no changes the procc is 4930MX and the notebook model is an P375SM

 

confirmed worked on server. now i dont have to go through tedious working doing multiple fan splitting. this is an excellent software allows controlling slave GPU fan but not according to GPU temp, if a CPU heatsink mod is to extend it to slave GPU fan, this would be perfect for it

few questions/request.
1. possible to change the "bull/cow" icon?
2. monitor frequency is at 800, max is 2000, is this the same meaning as fan being delayed spin up? or only the monitor frequency?
3. anyway to add option to delay fan spin up or down?, or at least extend the monitor frequency to say max of 4000.

 

2.)As far as I can tell it's the actual updaterate of the program, so basicially the updaterate of the readings/set fants etc (everything). and it's extremely responsive.

The program is based on the other EC viewer program as far as I can tell, he can easily up the value.

 

i thought as much. after having alienware m18x r1 and r2, hwinfo had fan control but fan speed changes instantaneous as temp reading changes which sounds great but in actuality its not so good. I could have say 60-70C for 2500RPM and then 70+ C for 4000 RPM and when sometimes temp peak for a tiny 1-2 seconds you can hear fan ramp up and down repeatedly it is quite annoying, not to mention 4000 RPM fan noise is unbearable, hence I want the delay reading, or even purposely delay spin up.

this is literally one of the best thing that comes with clevo laptop, with exception to the 6cores and possibly 8 cores to come. i couldnt get CCC to work in server 2012 so fan is on auto which is pretty much "no spin" and when it does, its at like 60-70% can hear it quite loud. with this software, a constant 20% fan speed i could barely hear it, but keeps idle temp and regular usage temp much lower.

 

yeah, this is annoying as it can be.

 

I tried this app on my W110ER. It doesn't handle the CPU + dGPU + optimus driving the one shared fan well. It's ok when the dGPU is not being used, but with loads on both, the CPU and GPU control algorithms are clearly fighting with each other, if I set different refresh intervals the fan spins up and down

An ability to turn off fans would be useful as the dGPU (650M) runs that cool under liquid metal that the shared heatsink heats up the CPU enough to spin the fan up. RLECViewer works better as it can remove the control of both "GPU fans" and just monitor CPU temp.

 

Has anyone tried posting this fan adjuster software on a neutral site? Baidu appears to be requiring installation of the disk client in order just to download 5.7 megs worth of this fan software :|

 

I held off for a while not liking it either but in the end it's not a huge deal. You can run the app in a sandbox (E.G. sandboxie) in case you're worried about Chinese govt spyware getting installed, the only other thing you need to sign up is to give a mobile number as part of 2FA.

 

Even if you use a VM, I would still think, and rightfully so that that is a lot of information to give. Why would they even require 2FA on a website where the information that is stored onto your virtual drive isn’t private, but amassed from publicly available downloads? And one’s phone number? That is absurd.

Hopefully I’m not missing out on much.

 

i didnt have to register with number or anything so it must have changed. i downloaded the server version though so could be that, try that, they all the same just allows it to run on window server.