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    Steelseries Keyboard Keybindings?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Energyzerbunny, Aug 30, 2012.

  1. Energyzerbunny

    Energyzerbunny Newbie

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    Hey guys,
    I recently bought the Sager NP9170 / Clevo P170EM with the steel series keyboard and had not realized that if you buy the steel series keyboard there is no mapping to that keyboard hence if you buy it all of the images on your f1-f12 ETC will be off IE; F5 has a battery and says "Eco" but if I press it with Fn held it will instead lower my laptops audio. I've looked everywhere for a fix for this including calling them and no one seems to be able to solve it, do you guys have any idea on how I can fix this?

    Thanks,
    ME.
     
  2. Nothing.To.Lose

    Nothing.To.Lose Notebook Consultant

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    As far as I know, there is no fix. There is mention of an official fix from Steel Series later this year, so for now you'll just have to memorize which is which.
     
  3. tdididit

    tdididit Notebook Enthusiast

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    Go to school and learn 8032 assembler :)

    Steel Series Keyboard got different matrix scan codes so you need to change it in EC code (one of three kbd scan tables). Or build translator board on ATMEGA8 pluged between MoBo and SS keyboard
     
  4. sha7bot

    sha7bot Company Representative

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    There is no fix from Steelseries. You'll have to rely on the community to develop one. Unfortunately, this might mean an EC rewrite.
     
  5. Energyzerbunny

    Energyzerbunny Newbie

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    It's really annoying me that they didn't tell me that before I spent $70 on a keyboard I mean I really like it and all but for $70 it better bet a pretty damn good keyboard.
     
  6. Heihachi_1337

    Heihachi_1337 Notebook Deity

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    It should be noted that the Sager stock backlit keyboard is produced by the same company that makes the SteelSeries keyboard. That company is Sunrex. The only difference is one is chiclet and the other is standard keys but both are backlit and both perform the same.

    You would have been better off with the stock Sager keyboard, at least your Fn keys would be working properly.

    Also, you found your way to these forums to make these posts. Perhaps in the future you may want to check out these forums and do your homework before making the purchase. The Fn keys will not work, nor are they re-mappable, as others have stated it is something in the EC or BIOS on these that controls the Fn key mapping.
     
  7. gaidin43

    gaidin43 Notebook Evangelist

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    The steelseries keyboard is gear and offers way better mapping of fn key combos if they ever release the fix!
     
  8. Energyzerbunny

    Energyzerbunny Newbie

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    You see that's the issue, I bought the keyboard mostly cause I heard about the issue where they put the keybindings for FN like this

    Lower Volume on left Sleep button in middle Increase volume on right, now why would you put the sleep button in the middle of raise and lower volume buttons? It's very silly and I figured the steel series keyboard would have fixed it but instead they sold me an unfinished product.
     
  9. Heihachi_1337

    Heihachi_1337 Notebook Deity

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    Please keep in mind that the SteelSeries keyboard was created for an MSI laptop specifically. That means this keyboard is not, as you would say, "unfinished". It works as intended for its original purpose.
    MSI nor the SteelSeries manufacturer is really required nor obligated to go any further with the SteelSeries keyboard as far as key remapping is concerned. Given circumstances also reported in THIS THREAD This decreases your chances further of ever being able to remap your Fn keys.
     
  10. Energyzerbunny

    Energyzerbunny Newbie

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    I understand this and am completely aware of this but if they didn't have a way to remap the FN keys they should have put up a warning about this. I love the computer and everything about it but I had no idea that I was buying a laptop keyboard for an MSI laptop they never noted anything about this and even if they did they should have noted that the FN keys would not be mapped properly. Now I still love the layout of the keyboard and everything about it I just may have rethought about the $70 up charge for a keyboard that's not correctly mapped. I read up a lot on this keyboard before going anywhere but nowhere did I find any issues nor did I know to look exactly for hey is the keys mapped properly for this keyboard? I thought that would be a pretty obvious yes, but then again who am I to know?
     
  11. gaidin43

    gaidin43 Notebook Evangelist

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    I spoke to both steelseries and xoticpc and both said that there will be no support the keyboard itself will still be covered but the likely hood of a rapping program is slim. Now steelseries is more pissed places added them to none MSI computers. In the end it's all legal crap of one compacting not willing to share and wants money.

    I really hope someone comes up with a solution allowing people that have this keyboard the ability to remap these stupid as fn keys!!!
     
  12. hackness

    hackness Notebook Virtuoso

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    So those who went for SteelSeries keyboards are doomed? What's XoticPC going to do about this?
     
  13. gaidin43

    gaidin43 Notebook Evangelist

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    Xotic PC basically said MSI is supposed to still support the keyboard itself, as the repair of the keyboard is not at issue, it’s the installation that caused the issue. If Steelseries ever releases a remapping function for the keyboard is on them. The Steel keyboards that were installed were purchased from MSI.

    Now that this all happened I'm not sure I want to keep this keyboard unless someone can figure out how to completely remap these keys to their labeled functions.
     
  14. Renaissance 2K

    Renaissance 2K Notebook Enthusiast

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    So, Xotic is saying it's MSI's responsibility, MSI isn't interested in developing a fix, and Steelseries is pissed the keyboards are even available on other laptops in the first place?
     
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    Aren't there any little keyboard stickers available to place on the fn keys that are misconstrued?
     
  16. gaidin43

    gaidin43 Notebook Evangelist

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    Thats not the point. The locations of the stock/current FN keys NEED to be relocated and the ones that are labeled on the steelseries keyboard are much better laid out then the sager ones.

    So someone needs to come up with a fix for this to remap the keys.
     
  17. _untitled_

    _untitled_ Notebook Enthusiast

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    Personally, I don't use any of the FN keys aside from volume and brightness.
    One thing I loved about my old samsung laptop was that the FN key was right next to the arrow keys, and the arrow keys controlled brightness and sound.
    If you're like me, you can just download AutoHotkey and use a script that replaces FN with Ctrl
    Here's a quick script I wrote (sound) (brightness is taken from autohotkey forums):
     
  18. gaidin43

    gaidin43 Notebook Evangelist

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    Will this script work for brightness and volume? What about mute? So it sets up the labeled keys to work with cntrl instead of FN key? Do the on screen prompts still show? Are the fn key functions still functional? Can these control volume and brightness in games?
     
  19. Renaissance 2K

    Renaissance 2K Notebook Enthusiast

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    Okay, everyone. Our problems are solved. I found a great third-party keyboard that isn't subject to these keybinding issues.

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    There are some reports of keys sticking, but I'm sure it's nothing to worry about.
     
  20. gaidin43

    gaidin43 Notebook Evangelist

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    Ha!! Who actually has time to do that?
     
  21. sha7bot

    sha7bot Company Representative

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    What happens if you spill milk on this?

    Deliciousness or disaster?
     
  22. _untitled_

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    The script only enables the usage of Ctrl+Left/Right for volume and Ctrl+Up/Down for brightness.

    It should work in game, but any keybinds you have for CTRL+arrow keys will probably not work.
     
  23. gaidin43

    gaidin43 Notebook Evangelist

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    This is an amazing script and workers great.

    Anyway you can figure out mute to work for the "0"key on the numpad?

    Hell if you can write a whole script for the complete replacement of all the fn functions of the steelsieres keyboard I would pay you for it!
     
  24. shadowprophet99

    shadowprophet99 Notebook Guru

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    Hm... When you say "remapping software" are you not including the "Shift" software that they said they were going to add support for? That software can remap it if I remember correctly. Finally got my computer back working. Fried the power brick in the first three days of having it, and haven't been home the two weeks since it died. My old power inverter just wasn't bringing enough power through. Anyway, got a cross shipment and am just about to send my old one back. My question is, where can I find a map of the original mapping? It may be a stupid layout, but I'm pretty sure I can memorize what I need from it.
     
  25. gaidin43

    gaidin43 Notebook Evangelist

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    The manual has the button layout for the fn keys in it. You can download the PDF and print off the two pages from the sager website.

    The steelseries software we all were told would come to remap the fn key functions for the sager to how they are labeled may not be supported due to the MSI legal action.

    So now I am using auto hotkey for the volume and brightness but I can never remember what the other freaken keys are so I always have to look when I need them.