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    Stiff competition for the M980NU? Maybe...

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Larry@LPC-Digital, May 29, 2009.

  1. Larry@LPC-Digital

    Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative

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    Alienware (or should we call it Dell now) against Sager = no competition. Sager all the way.
     
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    Blacky Notebook Prophet

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    That Alienware is pretty damn heavy. 5.5 kg without the power source. I would rather call it portable all-in-one gaming rig :D.
     
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    I just want to know is the M980NU going to be called a Sager NP9850? And if Powernotebooks is going to carry it?
     
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    sohail99 Notebook Consultant

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    I really liked the fact that, in spite of packing 2x 280m GTXs it also has -
    But Sager generally wins in the Price :performance ratio! :D
     
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    BIGX333 Brazillian Overclocker

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    Just like the M980NU...
     
  8. Heathkidd

    Heathkidd M860TU

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    Sager is a Performance to price provider.. they give you raw hardware with no trimmings or features..

    sager is not fancy .. sager is not so crash hot on special features (some which matter alot)... sager is pretty average on battery life issues (mabye sub par)

    Alienware is risky .. Alienware is flashy and powerfull .. Alienware has quite nice features def in the batterylife department.

    Thats the general trend..

    With ALienwares prices droping. and their construction going larger scale ( via dell).. i wouldnt rule them out.. this new thing looks quite spectacular on paper.

    Sager will be same old same old good temps slightly noisey bad battery cheapest price thou im sure of it.. if thats your bag of tea.
     
  9. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    here :)

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  10. Larry@LPC-Digital

    Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative

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    blimey,i wish he would take a breath between each sentence :)
     
  12. makaveli72

    makaveli72 Eat.My.Shorts

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    You can't beat a Core i7...therefore you can't beat a D900F!
     
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    yeah i wouldn't touch that alienware with a 10 mile pole.



    if (clevo.getPrice() < alienware.getPrice() && clevo.getBuildQuality() > alienware.whatIsBuildQuality?())
    {
    boolean isNoBrainer = true;
    handOverMoney(new Etailer Clevo);
    }

    that is all.
     
  14. makaveli72

    makaveli72 Eat.My.Shorts

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    +rep even though I don't know what it means. :D
     
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    poopdawg27 Notebook Consultant

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    lol you are too kind.

    Nice drive in that netbook btw :D
     
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    Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative

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    Looks like AW might have a niche in the market.. sort of. The only problem I had with the M98U was that it was a huge gaming notebook, 18.4", I wanted a 17" with dual videocards. But I was gonna get the M98U anyway. But now alienware/dell is releasing a 17" system with dual 280M gtx's with possibly OCing ability. This system isn't that big, I compared the systems dimension with that of the Dell M1730 and its about close in size.

    New M17x

    Weight: Starting at 10.6 lbs10 (4.81 kg)
    Width: 16.0" (406 mm)
    Height: <2.00" (50.7 mm)
    Depth: 11.9" (302.6 mm)

    VS

    Dell M1730

    - Weight: 11.68 lbs
    - Width: 15.98”
    - Height: 2.11”
    - Depth: 12.65”

    The M17xis not that much bigger, its gonna be significantly smaller than the Clevo M98U which is good. Now to wait too see how well this system deals with heat, and hopefully wthis system is overclockable. But my only concern is how much smaller this system is VS the M98U, it might overheat as thats the common problems with AW systems. And it also comes with a 3rd hybrid videocard that will all be crammed in a 17" chassis. What do you guys think?
     
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    can someone post the dimensions of the Clevo m98U?
     
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    BIGX333 Brazillian Overclocker

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    Code:
    function __construct() {
          $this->clevo = $this->db->findByName('Clevo');
          $this->alienware = $this->db->findByName('Alienware');
          if ($this->clevo->body == 'Polycarbonate' && $this->alienware->body == 'Aluminum' && $this->clevo->blackPiano == true && $this->alienware->blackPiano = false) $this->betterBuildQuality = 'Alienware';
          $this->one = $this->db->user->findByQuote();
          if ($this->one->fanLover == true && $this->betterBuildQuality == 'Alienware' && $this->alienware->basePriceTag == '1799' && $this->clevo->basePriceTag == '2400') $this->user->isNoBrainer = true;
          $this->user->save();
          if ($this->user->isNoBrainer = true) $this->suicide();
    }
    U should start using ORM :eek:
     
  20. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    Any one know european measurements and translate them?

    "It is apparent that a 18.4 inch screen needs an appropriate big case. In the case of the Clevo M980NU this results in a weight of 5.350 kilogramme (without power adapter) and a size of 280x438x64 millimeter. So, once you have unpacked it you better keep it on the desk."
    http://www.notebookcheck.net/Hands-On-Clevo-M980NU-Notebook.14554.0.html
     
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    Yes, it will be called the Sager NP9850 and PowerNotebooks.com will be carrying it.

    Thanks for asking :)
     
  22. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Donald any guesstimates when it may be released ? obviously nothing official but say your best guess ?.
     
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    Late June to mid July. It was originally June, and that may still hold true but too often new model releases take a bit longer than expected.
     
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    11.02 x 17.25 x 2.51 and 11.77 pounds. I hope this helps you. God Bless :)



    WOW I just took out a brown paper bag and measure the flat side of it and it measures 11.75 x 17 so if you want to get an estimate of how big one of these laptops are closed get a brown paper bag. :eek:
     
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    We still aren't sure whether the m17x has MXM 3.0 280Ms or not.
     
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    I am going to confirm that next week at the AW E3 booth. ;)
     
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    poopdawg27 Notebook Consultant

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    databases searches like that are extremely inefficient, try a quicksort or something instead.

     
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    You going to E3!
    Can't wait for the full Gophn review :D
    That is one convention I always wanted to attend.
    Not to take anything from the M980NU, but the thing is HUGE
    And if AW can help themselves from reaming consumers with there pricing they SAGER will have very stiff competition.
    Personally I think anything over 17" for a laptop is a little overkill.You pass a point were it just gets silly to call it mobile.
     
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    Couldn't agree more, waiting to get the offical dimensions of the M980NU to compare it to the new M17x.
     
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    Thanks for the laugh. Seriously. It starts @ $1750 with just a GTX 260M and P8600.
     
  31. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    If the nicely configured Alienware M17x cost $4,206.39 then our M980NU hopefully should be much less? What do you think?


    QUICKSILVER Space Black – Anodized Aluminum
    Operating System Windows Vista® Ultimate (64-bit Edition) with Service Pack 1
    Processor Intel® Core™2 Extreme Quad QX9300 2.53GHz (12MB Cache, 1066MHz FSB)
    Memory 6GB Dual Channel DDR3 at 1333MHz
    Mouse Pointer Mouse Pointers, Standard
    LCD 17-inch WideUXGA 1920x1200 (1200p)
    Video Card Dual NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 280M, 2GB – SLI® Enabled
    Hard Drive 500GB 7,200RPM w/ Free Fall Protection
    AlienFX Color Quasar Blue
    Avatar Alienhead 3D
    Windows Style Windows Style, Default
    Adobe Software Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 9.0
    CD ROM/DVD ROM Slot-Load Dual Layer Blu-ray Combo (BR-ROM, DVD+-RW, CD-RW)
    Wireless Internal 300Mbps Dual-Band a/g/n Wireless with MIMO Technology
    Automatic Updates Automatic Updates ON
    Power Plan Power Plan, High Performance
    Time Zone (GMT - 6.00) Central Time (US & Canada)
    Software - Antivirus McAfee® VirusScan Plus – 15-Month Subscription (English)
    Service 2Yr Ltd Hardware Warranty, InHome Service after Remote Diagnosis
    RSS Feed Alienware RSS Feed
    Bluetooth Internal Wireless Bluetooth® 2.1 with EDR
    Standard Nameplate Trigger Standard Nameplate (Alienware M17x)
    Sub-total $4,206.39
     
  32. Miss Malevolent

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    It will probably be around the same price or more.
     
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    unless you are doing some heavy multitasking..you can drop the ram to 4gb and save 400. also, the qx9300 is 400 or so on ebay.

    i just saved you $700.
     
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    pretty much confirmed that the new M17x uses MXM 3.0b cards...
     
  35. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    yuppppp

    and the warranty and the ram are useless...for now at least...blu ray is mehh
     
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    GTA 4 swallowed up 2.5GB of RAM today. Yuck :p

    I closed it, dropped from 3.25 to about 770 lol.

    Yeah more than 4GB is a waste for most people, but it's nice to know I'm actually using it.
     
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    Just did the pricing at .de and .com site for the AW.

    With the same specs the price in .de 3.534,01€ and for .com 2148,54€ (~3000$).
    (Q9000, SLI 280m, 1TB 7200, 1920x1200, BluRay, 4GB RAM 1333)

    I guess in Germany you pay more for the brand than anywhere else. ^^;
    M980NU is not released yet so the pricing can not be done, for now.

    Edit:
    So far AW is cheaper (price etc) than Clevo. What I have seen from German resellers, compared to the .com price.