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    Sturdiness of Lid/Case NP8651 vs NP8652?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Quikster, Mar 16, 2015.

  1. Quikster

    Quikster Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Looking to buy a new laptop in the next couple of months and I was just reading some of the reviews posted here when I came upon a discrepancy I'd like to get clarified if possible.

    From 2 of the reviews I've seen on here on the Clevo 650SE are completely contradictory and it seems that the screen may have a bunch of flex or no flex. The review of the Digital Storm Triton based on the Clevo 650SE states:
    "We could feel the chassis exterior flex every time we picked up the notebook regardless of where we held it. The screen lid is likewise extremely flexible; allowing you to create “ripples” of distortion on the screen if you press on the back of the lid." - http://www.notebookreview.com/notebookreview/digital-storm-triton-review-clevo-p650se/

    Then the review of the Eurocom M5 Pro based on the Clevo 650SE states:
    "The M5 Pro is constructed from a mix of aluminum and plastic; with the latter making up the majority of the chassis and the former being found on the display backing, palm rest, and entire bottom of the notebook. The chassis has very good rigidity on par with business-class notebooks. There’s minimal flex in the palm rest and surrounding areas as well. The lid has ample support from the aluminum backing and also has a low amount of flex. Additionally, we were unable to produce ripples in the display by pressing in from behind the lid, which is always a good sign of durability." - http://www.notebookreview.com/notebookreview/eurocom-m5-pro-review-clevo-p650se/

    Since they mention in the M5 Pro review that it is a mix of metal and plastic and it is upgradeable to the 980m during build it would seem to be actually based on the 650SG chassis like the Sager NP6852 since that is a little heavier and thicker. Is it the case that the extra thickness eliminates the flex that seems to be present in the Triton, especially in the screen/lid, or is it just two different people's opinion on flex?

    If that's the case that will definitely settle it fully toward the NP8652 instead of just leaning that way over the NP8651, and if they both flex a lot may have to look at some other options.
    Thanks
     
  2. ugaboga313

    ugaboga313 Notebook Consultant

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    I am curious about the exact same contradiction, there is a techteamgb review of the p650se that has a nice show of the flex (hinges seem decent, back of lid not so much). I am leaning on the np8652 and just want to know if its gonna last a few years of being put in a backpack
     
  3. D2 Ultima

    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    Different opinions. Also, the P650SE is one machine and the P650SG is another. The P650SA is a third, which cannot even take the IPS panels, actually.

    Some reviewers want certain things, and others want other things. There are users who would rate the Razer Blade above a P170SM-A because it feels nice on the outside and has "macbook-like fit and finish", and then there's others who would rate the Razer Blade bottom-barrel due to its heating issues, super loud fans and cut-down storage/IO options.

    The machines are solid, and should not cause any functional problems at all, if this is what your concern is.

    Please be aware that if buying for "great CPU usage" for things like video rendering/streaming/etc, the HQ CPUs should be avoided and you should select a different model.
     
  4. Quikster

    Quikster Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    So different opinions would be my first guess as well except for the exact statements pertaining to ripples, however one states they were unable to create any the other states they could create ripples both by pressing on the lid. How flexible something is or is not can definitely be subjective, but pressing on a location to create ripples or not seems like it should be fairly consistent.

    " The screen lid is likewise extremely flexible; allowing you to create “ripples” of distortion on the screen if you press on the back of the lid."

    "we were unable to produce ripples in the display by pressing in from behind the lid"
     
  5. D2 Ultima

    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    Was the screen the same across both machines however?
     
  6. mrfurby2u

    mrfurby2u Notebook Enthusiast

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    Are you saying these laptops aren't capable of streaming video? No Netflix? No YouTube?
     
  7. D2 Ultima

    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    No. I mean the act of livestreaming. Read the guide in my signature about mobile i7s
     
  8. Ranosys

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    Suggest me for the best laptop that could be purchased.
     
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    The LCD lids on the P650SE and SG are thinner than other Clevo laptops, but that doesn't mean much. They're plenty rigid when in place and whether a thicker lid or thinner lid, I think both will break under the same stresses. But it would really take a point load near the center to do such a thing. So unless you carry heavy pointy objects in your backpack you should be fine, and get a backpack with a laptop compartment too.
     
  10. Quikster

    Quikster Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Of course :) I always do. I have a few MobileEdge laptops bags still from when I was an undergrad and was reviewing bags for this site back in 2004/2005. I also recently picked up a SwissGear SA1923 as my MobileEdge is showing some wear finally and the new ones seemed to have majorly slipped in quality.
     
  11. Support.3@XOTIC PC

    Support.3@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    For gaming, in the Sager line the NP9377 will be your best option with 2x 980M.
     
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    Epsilon748 Notebook Evangelist

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    In the little bit of time I had mine, I can definitely say that the lid flexes seem different based on the screen.

    8652 w/ 1080p screen - didn't notice any significant flexing more than I expected for a laptop screen. Yes, you could torque the screen an flex it by hand, but it didn't feel "loose"
    8652 w/ 4k screen - felt REALLY flimsy in comparison. Not sure why this is, but I opened the laptop from a lid corner and it had a very noticeable warp/flex as I pulled it open. Opening from the center is fine. The lid is not loose in the hinges- this is specifically lengthwise across the screen that it has a lot of flex to it.

    Compare this to my old P150HM which was tank-like and didn't flex at all.

    Anyone else notice this? I only had 10-15 minutes with each laptop, so I could just be misremembering the 1080p flex.
     
  13. ChrisAtsin

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    My two cents on the lid is that if you have heavy items in you backpack, you will probably see some cosmetic damage after a while. I had to return my P650SE once because I had pink spots on the screen. However I do not know for sure if that was damage sustained in my backpack/heavy objects on top of it or something else.
     
  14. TomJGX

    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    Always put your laptops in a sleeve before you put it in a bag.. It also helps if you bag has a protected dedicated laptop compartment...