Successor of X8100- P180HM

Hi there,

just found that:
PCSystems-EvolutionX - Clevo P180HM 18,4" 27
and
mySN.de | XMG XIRIOS XESIA | buy Schenker Notebooks - XMG P801 PRO Gaming Notebook 46,7cm (18,4")
and that
One Gaming Notebook T2200 by: One - ONE Computer Shop

For now max with GTX 560m SLI - a little bit disappointing... so it can´t really compete with the Alienware M18X...
maybe except in pricing...
Still doesn´t show up at the clevo website, though...

 

Yes there is no firm ETA for this release yet. As far as the max GTX 560M in SLI, I would take that with a grain of salt...
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i think its the power issue.....that psu only 220w

 

Hm, seems that MySN will present the P180HM at Cologne (gamescom):
Google Übersetzer

 

And yet another article on Notebookcheck.de
Google Übersetzer

 

Thanks for the great links! This model has been in the works for months now. It is good to see countries in Europe posting information on it.
The question is when will it be available for really shipping it to customers. Here in the USA as of today there is no ETA. Maybe Europe will get it first...
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shipping date for Kobalt G180 in the uk is 5th September and pre orders available now.

 

Most of the time info get released earlier in Europe but when it comes to the actual launch it is more often America that is in the forefront. This may possibly be due to America being supplied (mostly) by Sager whereas Europe is supplied by many distributors.

As for the P180HM a likely launch date would be end of August. Sadly, the GTX 560M SLI are and will for the nearest future be the best available gpu solution for this model.

I can also confirm that MySN will present a few samples of P180HM at GamesCom.

 

I really don´t understand Clevo with the only GTX 560m SLI solution - anyone who will get a monster laptop wants the best possible performance and the P180HM have enough space to get 6990m CF or GTX 580m SLI... really strange. If I had not a X7200 and wanted to buy an extreme laptop, the P180HM would be something to consider- but only with the top graphic cards...
Anyone who wants a 18.4" laptop will now go buying the Alienware M18X, I guess...
Besides of that, I don´t like the look with the keyboard being not in the center because of the extra keys on the left... but that´s just my personal opinion .

 

We will have the P180HM available for preorder within a couple weeks. It will begin shipping sometime in Sept.

 

Pretty sure the M18x started off the same way being released with only the 460M in sli. It took a few weeks for the other models.

 

This is not going to sell well, especially with those specs.

 

I think that there will be other Clevo 18" model (perhaps X8300) that will have the GTX 580 SLi & 6990M CFX.

 

Those specs definitely won't stick, lol.

Anyway, is the 6990m known as "crossfire" by default? I've seen it listed that way before.

 

Who the heck wants 560Ms, when a single 6990M can match or exceed their power?

 

Pretty sure its only going to have 2 SODIMM slots also, so its not really meant to go up against the m18x, thats the P270's job. This is meant for the almost All-in-One market.

 

IMO they should just scrap this model since almost everyone will choose the P270WM.

 

Clevo has just added the P180HM model on their lists of Driver, User Manual, Service Manual, BIOS; but they still contain nothing. As soon as I get hand on its Service Manual, or any photos, I'll publish it here

 

it should be the p181hm...

 

i got a 485m in my x8100 right now going to test 2 x 485m in it later this week just for kicks, and didnt some one post pics of the p180hm already confirming it supports 580m sli

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/589598-some-pics-clevo-p180.html

does this board have short term memory, that's obviously there lowest cost configuration, since a 6970m in crossfire can run in a x8100, even 470m/480m's (so i've heard )

 

The P180HM motherboard is already available from Clevo. If any one want to test it, contact me.

 

If there is no BACKLIT KEYBOARD at this model, it will totally lose from the beginning!!!

 

I think those waiting for a Clevo with GTX 580M SLI or HD 6970M/6990M CrossFire, will have to wait for the successor to the X7200. That will have the new Sandy Bridge-E processors too.

 

No backlit keyboard.

We have these shipping to us already, probably be available to send around mid September.

Here is the full compatible specs list attached here.

 

I also have every confidence that this product will work perfectly with 580m in SLI. It will just require an X7200 power supply and because its supposed to be a more 'mainstream' product they probably didnt want to bundle it with a household brick of a power supply.

 

wow so it uses same power supply? weird... x7200 psu wont work different pin output i believe, however a y converter would suffice. I'll be running this next week so i'll confirm if 2 x 485m's work. since 580m's consume less anyways.

edit:7200 power adapter uses different, pins' you'd need a y converter with 2 of these psu's to run anything high end, just hope the bios supports all latest cards, i'll find out in a week or 2

 

So this is a separate machine than the P270HM? The 270 will be the refresh of the current X7200, no?

 

That is correct, P270WM is X7200 replacement and is ETA December.

Edit: Typo, correct.

 

Sounds good, thanks.

 

isnt it p270"w"m?
if its dual gpu as we seen i bet clevo would make a 400~500w psu

 

I hope so. 2 psu's is just crazy.

I haven't seen a lot of info on the p180hm or the p270wm, anyone know what the main differences will be besides screen size?

 

P180HM: 3SODIMMS, Laptop Processors, Limited to 560m SLI due to PSU

P270WM (Rumored): 4SODIMMS, Desktop Processors (Sandybridge-E Socket 2011), X79 chipset, Upto 580m/6990m x 2 (SLI / CFX). Probably up to 2 x 300W PSU's. Also 3D capable.

So P180HM, decent performance
P270WM, X7200's replacement, big, hot, but the fastest thing that isn't a desktop.

 

I am thinking about buying either a Clevo P180HM or an Alienware M18x... Currently my favorite is the Clevo because it has 3 HDD drives while the Alienware just has only 2. The larger variety of Graphics Cards from the Alienware is not really an issue for me since GTX 560M is more than enough for me personally.

I have two questions about the P180HM :

1. I have read that it doesn't have an ExpressCard slot. Is this really correct? On the 'gallery' tab of this link:

I can clearly see an ExpressCard slot on the second picture. But on the 'Tech specs' tab no ExpressCard is mentioned. So I am wondering if either the picture is wrong or the specs are wrong

2. Question @ Tirenz: I saw in your signature that you live in Berlin and that you have some Clevo laptops. Since I also live in Berlin my question is: Do you know if there is a physical shop here that sells Clevos, Schenkers, Deviltechs, etc? I must say that I am one of those very old fashioned guys that prefers to buy in a real physical shop instead of ordering something via internet.

 

my only concern is that the 485m is detected if inserted, whether the laptop can sustain the power load would be a gamble, but if it's not detected then it's like the x8100 and it will probably only boot with 2gb of ram only, kind of like what my x8100 is doing now with my 485m

EDIT:i like this laptop series because of the size 18.4" going to a 17.3" is just not the same, i'll do any mods i have to, to get it to work, i know the 485m will run i'm just hoping the single ram slot issue isn't there, or it's going to suck running 2gb of ram

 

As on the previous page in the specifications listing. It says Express Card 54/34 Slot. So yes to Question 1.

 

running 2 x 485m's right now in x8100 but i can't enable sli in control panel, phsyx however i can, i'll try doing a test with dedicated phsyx something intensive and the other for graphics.

 

i guess i'm going to be a guinea pig, as ALWAYS ;(, i'm going to try to get a p180hm mobo really quick and i'm HOPING that 485m is detected in bios ATLEAST.

 

Hi Klaus,

sorry, no I don´t, I got all my clevos from online shops/ deals... sometimes even from far away. I don´t think there is a shop with clevo computers in Berlin .

 

Thanks - this is good news

Thanks anyway. Perhaps I'll arrange a weekend trip to Leipzig so that I can do some sightseeing in the city (I have never been in Leipzig before) plus buy the Clevo P180HM directly in the Schenker shop

I guess that I am going to be another guinea pig since I want to buy the P180HM as soon as Schenker can deliver it.

 

your going to buy a complete system or are you doing a personal upgrade? what cards do you have to test it in when it arrives? I'm just trying to get a hold of the motherboard(speaking with somebody on that right now), going to be using 485m's in there.

 

A complete system. Hopefully I'll find a shop that delivers it with everything I want, so that I don't need to do any installations myself.

The Clevo site has been updated today. I have just downloaded the User Manual from there Looks really good

One question: Do all of these three shops:

plus this fourth one
DevilTech Hell Machine

really use the new P180HM in their models ? Or do some of them still sell the older X8100? The reason for asking: An ExpressCard Slot is quite important for me and the new P180HM does have such a slot but the older X8100 doesn't.

 

can you link me the manual, i dont see where your seeing this but i'd definitely like to obtain it.

the p180hm uses similar chassis parts from the x8100 like the x8100 did with the m980nu, In short they upgraded the mobo but the layout is basically the same, if you can link me the manual i can take a look for myself and definitely find out.

 

Yes, they do. Basically you can see that on the specs - the P180HM have already the sandy bridge CPU´s which the X8100 doesn´t have.

 

Sure. Here it is: CLEVO - Download . You need to select P180HM in the dropdown 'User manual' and afterwards choose a download server.

Do you mean that it wouldn't be possible to install a Sandy Bridge CPU in a X8100 barebone? In this case you are right indeed, because all 4 shops sell their 18" models with Sandy Bridge CPU's.

BTW: some of these shops seem to have wrong pictures on their sites. E.g. in the mysn link which you have posted there is a tab 'Bilder'. If you click on picture number one there, you'll see that this picture doesn't show a P180HM. I guess that they have forgotten to update their JPEG's?

 

they changed the internals with the p180hm, the heat sinks definitely been improved which is a plus for heat removal. Parts aren't available till September it seems, o well, waiting then.

 

It's impossible.

 

Thanks


Now I need to make up my mind where to buy it... Since I live in Germany I think my choice is going to be between these two shops:
PCSystems-EvolutionX - Clevo P180HM 18,4" 27
and
mySN.de | XMG XIRIOS XESIA | buy Schenker Notebooks - XMG P801 PRO Gaming Notebook 46,7cm (18,4")

Comparing the two shops I am surprised about the price difference. The configuration which I am thinking about

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Processor: i7-2720QM
RAM: 12GB
System drive: 128GB SSD
2nd drive: 1000GB HDD
3rd drive: 1000GB HDD
Optical drive: Blu-Ray Writer 
WLAN: Intel 6300
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium (64 bit) 

would cost 2320€ at the first shop and 2590€ in the second shop. I wonder what could be the reason for such a big price difference
If both shops really sell the same hardware, obviously I would go for the cheaper one.

 

MySN ain´t the cheapest shop but is best known in Germany for Clevo PC´s - they have a good reputation. I never dealt with them before, so I can´t say.
I dealt with PCSystems-EvolutionX - got my GTX 485m SLI from them and the P170HM Barebone. They reply quick and are very nice, no problems with them. They are not so well known in Germany, but maybe that will change ;-).

 

same gear re badged, buy the cheapest, maybe it will cause other companys to lower prices,* price wars * win for us.

all that nonsense about customer relations and all that crap, if your gear is faulty you send it to them they send it to sager, there hardware is under warranty with sager, there the middle man, that's why the laptop industry isn't as open as the desktop, because of privatization... anyways buy cheap save some money.

 

As far as I know neither MySN nor any other German reseller uses SAGER, they get it directly from Clevo. Never ever saw a SAGER Bios on one of the machines. If something is wrong with motherboard etc., they send it to Goldenstar who are some kind of "Clevo Germany Servicecenter" ( Clevo Germany ). Except Hawkforce who deals with Eurocom and got at least some of his stuff from them.