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    Suggestions: Looking to upgrade from the HM to EM model

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by jaybee83, May 21, 2012.

  1. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    well im gonna go out on a limp here and presume that u havent heard of mythlogic`s upgrade program yet? good thing about that: u save quite the amount of cash compared to buying the barebone urself and installing all the components. plus once theyre done u can still sell ur old barebone and get some extra money back.

    cheers
     
  2. Kingpinzero

    Kingpinzero ROUND ONE,FIGHT! You Win!

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    Just wait until we get some Infos about hd7970m or gtx680m working in HM models.
    Up that point providing they work fine it's up to you to switch to IB.
    If you don't care just upgrade CPU and gpu and be happy with a monster machine.
     
  3. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    well yeah, aside from the fact of course that upgrading from HM to EM doesnt really make sense at all, performance-wise :p as long as the 7970M is shown to work in HM, at least ^^
     
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    E.Blar Notebook Deity

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    ^^^^Backlit keyboard says Ohai...
    So does Optimus.
     
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    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    key word in my statement was performance mate ;) the rest is just cosmetics :)
     
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    E.Blar Notebook Deity

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    Whether battery life falls under performance or cosmetics is debatable. Also, mSATA could boost performance. But, I do agree that it's not worth upgrading from SB... Now, when haswell arrives it will be a different story. I wonder what the new model will be called?
     
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    it at all, mSATA makes a dent in perf cuz respective drives are smaller than fullfledged SSDs, unless u compare the situation with a regular hdd as a system drive ^^ besides, optimus just gives u what? like 1-1.5 hours more in productive battery time? id have expected way more, thus not really worth considering as a serious upgrade. the only thing that does intrigue me tho is the possibility of OCing the IB qm cpus, altho im not sure as to if at all and if so then which clevo models that would be possible with. so far it has just been shown in the alienware m17x r4, which has both advanced bios options for that and intel xtu support.

    as for the name of the new clevo models, it probly depends on the haswell platform callsign (in case they decide to keep their system, that is): HM - huron river / EM - eagle river (before it was renamed chief river) / CM - colorado river? we´ll see :) i guess its gonna be something totally different tho, since its a completely new arch.

    cheers
     
  8. niffcreature

    niffcreature ex computer dyke

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    The prices of those upgrades are RIDICULOUS. For 200$ more you can get new barebones p151em

    I wouldn't be surprised if they simply resell your old machine and give you a new one at a massive profit.
     
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    they actually just transfer all the parts to the new barebone and send u the new machine together with the stripped old barebone for u to sell off as u please and get a nice amount of extra cash back. so its not that bad, considering u pay both for the barebone and the installation :) IF u were talking about the mythlogic program i mean ^^
    but yeah, as an owner of an HM machine i dont really consider it to be worth it, really. unless u REAAAAALLLYYY need/want/desire that backlit kb, the mSATA slot and the extra 1-1.5 hours of battery life thanks to optimus ^^

    cheers
     
  10. truekiller28

    truekiller28 Notebook Consultant

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    The p151em doesnt host the 7970, it can only bring the 675m when manufactured. ;) The P150EM can bring higher-end GPU's, like the 7970M !
     
  11. Kingpinzero

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    News aren't encouraging guys. Just spoke with a knows reseller which wants to be anonymous and he confirmed two things:

    1) next shipment will be after 8th of June (and we know this already)
    2) hd7970m doesn't get along well with HM models. Main problem is that the pci-e 3.0 althought backward compatible causes some incompatibility with HM boards that has 2.0 bus. EC reads temperatures wrong and shuts down the system almost instantly.

    Now I don't know if he said this to force me into buying a whole laptop again, but if newer pcie3.0 cards are supposed to give headeache to HM models then were royally screwed.
    My only hope now is a confirmation to this by Xotic and Eurocom, I asked them it would be possible to test the card into an HM model.
    But also this reseller is well known so I don't understand the point of saying something that is not true.
    Talk about good news.
     
  12. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    that would be really strange if it turned out to be true, why would it work flawlessly in other pcie 2.0 laptops such as the m15x or that msi model (forgot the specs) but have such big issues in our machine? :(
     
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    Dunno jay that sounds fishy to me as well, but it's hard to not trust a reseller with a good reputation.
    Our only hope are Eurocom and xotic.
     
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    Because Clevos suck. How many times do I have to say it? They don't even work with a GT 240m. Its not because of the PCIE 3.0 its the same issue they have with tons of cards.