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    T7700 guys, whats your temp?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by blackwidow99, Sep 21, 2007.

  1. blackwidow99

    blackwidow99 Notebook Geek

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    you guys with the 5790/1 and the T7700 processor, whats you temperature of your CPU?

    mine at high performance settings just idling hits 69 deg. C

    is this normal......ive seen it even hit around 72 deg C with my Zalman cooler. please tell me this is normal.....i really dont want to send my lappy for repair.


    thanks
     
  2. JaHoe

    JaHoe Notebook Guru

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    i dont have a t7700 but a t7300. Temp raised easily to 100 !!!! But what turned out to be the case is that in the assembly process, somebody FORGOT to remove the protectionlabel from the heatsink where it is placed on the CPU!!!! Removing this turned the idle temp down from 65 to 40 !!
     
  3. blackwidow99

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    what?..........well where is the protection label....is it under the aluminum looking heta sink in the middle of the motherborad with two screws?
     
  4. blackwidow99

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    anybody else with heating problems like me?......whether with the T7700, T7500 or T7300?
     
  5. bazald

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    Those temps would be normal at 100% CPU usage for an extended length of time. Check the task manager to see if any processes are causing you to run hot. Otherwise, what is the ambient air temperature where you are running the notebook?
     
  6. blackwidow99

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    just regular room temp...... i know for sure im not running at full 100%.

    i just want to know if its normal running at 70 deg. C at high performance setting?
     
  7. bazald

    bazald Notebook Consultant

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    What is "high performance setting"? Are you disabling P-states? In that case, yes, it is normal, but you're doing something stupid and unnecessary.

    Otherwise, no, it absolutely is not normal.
     
  8. cjtinkle

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    I had that problem with my first 5790, it idled around 55 celcius, and anytime I did ANYTHING it went up to at least 70, anything stressful, 90 and shut down.

    I RMA'd it.

    My replacement runs VERY cool. Just email, webrowsing, word processing, it runs about 22 degrees celcius. Gaming, 49 tops so far. No laptop cooler either.

    Both T7700's

    First one came direct from Sager (no problem returning it). 2nd one came from XoticpC.
     
  9. midiman

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    You guys might want to post WHERE you are buying these from. IMHO - "forgetting" to do anything in the building process is unacceptable!
     
  10. JaHoe

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    Yes, but it has 3 screws, bit on the left side of the motherbord. The label is pushed against the underside of the heatsink. I bought it via www.laptops4u.nl. And I am wondering if they did the mistake or they did it in china...
     
  11. blackwidow99

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    Well, whats the aluminum looking heatsink in the center of the motherboard that has two screws? you can see it on "Lawlz" underside picture.

    crap.....im currently idling on high settings (control in power options) using Lavalys Everest at 66 Deg. C

    according to cjtinkle, i think i have a problem.
     
  12. JaHoe

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    now i understand what you mean, i dont know what that is. I was talking about the copper heatsinkpipes leading from CPU and GPU to the fans
     
  13. blackwidow99

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    yup i found it, the one with three screws and it actually says on the yellow label cpu heatsink, so thanks JaHoe.

    BUT my problem still persists, i ran EVEREST and PC wizard and speedfan (and like i said, I DONT think speedfan is reliable at all) and ive just hit a new record while testing it with pcmark04, 78 DEG C. with the cores running at full 100%.

    do u guys think it could be the thermal arctic silver 5 paste? Cause i originally had the T7300 and i changed my order to the T7700, do u think they might have not cleaned it out properly before applying the new paste? or maybe not enough paste?

    OR is it a motherboard problem?
    please help me out guys, i was so happy getting this laptop and there is absolutely nothing wrong with this one, no crashes, no BSODs, no mic problems, even no DEAD pixels. Just this heating issue. I really dont want to return my NB or send it for repair.

    cjtinkle said even gaming with her/his new one , it only hit 49 deg.C. with what program though (hopefully not speedfan)?............78 deg.C vs 49 deg.C is a big difference.
     
  14. scooberdoober

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    Contact Xotic PC and see what they suggest. ;)
     
  15. Audigy

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    Mine after some ArticSilver 5 on the CPU, became cooler:

    38/45ºC on IDLE

    65/68ºC FULL CPU burn in/Prime95


    ;)
     
  16. stevek1977

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    im using notebook hardware control from http://www.pbus-167.com/

    M570RU - T7700 2.4Ghz

    CPU temp is 42C (idle)
    HD Temp is 51C (idle)
     
  17. stevek1977

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    after some video games, and some crashes, the CPU is idling around 54C and HD is 52C.
     
  18. blackwidow99

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    I also reapplied arctic silver 5 that i bought from Compusa and i still am running hot under aggressive testing.

    im telling you nobody tests like me :)
    i ran pcwizard 2007, everest ultimate and speedfan for temp. sensing. AND prime95, pcmark04 and lost planet performance test in the background. CPU working at full 100%

    and this is wht i got:
    HDD hit max 52 deg C. (seems normal compared to everyone)
    CPU NEW RECORD of 84 deg. C.

    Now what? btw i asked Xoticpc and they said i could try reapplying AS5 to see if it works. Otherwise send for repair coz 15 day policy is over :(

    i did find something odd though, Coppper heatsink is scratched where the paste is on (ofcourse after i removed all the paste). could that be the culprit, scratched heatsink surface? coz i heard somewhere that it should not be scratched at all. As i said before i originally ordered the T7300 then changed my order to the T7700, i think they might have scratched it changing it out :eek:

    so....what now? (freakn neverending story)
     
  19. Audigy

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    I don´t think that only a scratch can make a diference in 10/15ºC... maybe 2/3 ºC but no more... the scratch is superficial? Try aplying some polish(it´s a white paste that is used to remove light scratches on a cars paint).

    Are you sure that you aplied the paste correctly too? Try remove the cooler and see if there is a perfect contact betwen the base and the CPU core. When you reassemble the cooler, folow the order on the screws.

    Whats your ambient temperature?
     
  20. scooberdoober

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    The scratch shouldn't be enough to cause that kind of over heating. The reason you are applying the paste is to fill all the little voids, such as scratches, bumps and depressions.
     
  21. cjtinkle

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    I am using Speedfan. I'll try NHC and see what it says and post shortly.
     
  22. stevek1977

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    i just tested speedfan also so that some of us are using the same software. the temperatures are comparable to NHC so i think we are good there. I like NHC cause it can put a fancy little graph on your desktop and show you an extended period of time.
     
  23. blackwidow99

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    uhaaaa, i knew it, some of you were using speedfan....im telling you guys its not accurate like other programs. Cause when i ran it together with everest ultimate and pcwizard2007, both everest and pcwizard gave me the same temp reading but speedfan was always ~20 deg. c off (lower).

    btw, i did apply the paste THREE times, spent 4 hours cleaning thoroughly, applying and running system temp readings. it has contact with the heatsink.
     
  24. stevek1977

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    i had just installed speedfan to compare, but it was the same temeratore as NHC for me. The temperature in PC Wizard 2007 is the same as NHC for me though, so i dont expect that there is much of a difference....Install NHC, it has a graph so you can see your temperature (cpu clock, and cpu load too) for the past few minutes rather than ONLY being able to see the immediate temperature.
     
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    i cant use nhc, it doesnt work on mine! maybe cause its 64 bit vista?

    any ideas....it keeps telling me could not load nhc driver!
     
  26. stevek1977

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    not sure about the 64-bit vista. i know that on their download page they have a version (should be listed under the first downloading link) that may work for ya.
     
  27. blackwidow99

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    hey audigy, what software you suing to monitor temp.?
     
  28. stevek1977

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    22 C while idling? I am around 40C when not doing anything. I am curious as to why the difference is so high between two exact machines idling.
     
  29. cjtinkle

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    Okay I installed NHC. Major temp differences reported. With NHC, it shows me idling between 39 and 46. Playing EQ2 (sorry, only game I play) it goes between 55 and 63. Does that sound better? Still cool enough... although I sure liked the temps Speedfan reported better. :mad:
     
  30. stevek1977

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    yeah, those temperatures definitely sound closer to what i am getting. now i don't feel so bad. i thought my machine was gonna overheat at some point with that huge of a difference.
     
  31. Audigy

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    I´m using everest and coretemp... both report independent core temperatures(using the build in sensors inside of each core).

    You can download CoreTemp from here(free) : http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/CoreTemp/CoreTempBeta.zip

    ;)
     
  32. MaxGem

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    Not a T7700 but a T7600 @ 2.33GHz is pretty close enough. Had the CPU at full load for 20 minutes and the temp went up to 70C. I used Everest, TAT, and NHC to monitor the temps.
     
  33. blackwidow99

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    Im sorry guys that i got everyone panicing.....but heres what i found out and so it doesnt make you guys feel bad.
    cjtinkle and stevek its normal that your NB runs at that tempratures. The maximum should be 70 Deg C. (give or take 2 degrees.). I talked to the technician manager at Sager and he said that max should be 20 deg C. over normal idling temp which is according to him 45~50 deg C.

    so dont worry about it. all you guys' NB are fine BUT if yours run at the same temp like mine did ABOVE 80 Deg. C. then theres something wrong. kinda like cjtinkle's first NB. like i said previously , speedfan on some NBs are NOT reliable.

    Btw, an update on my NB, called Xoticpc and notified them about the heating issue and had it returned, it shud be there at Sager by next week. Then reordering a new one. Hopefully no heating issue with the new one cause i loved the one i had to sent back.

    Hope this eases up things guys.
     
  34. Snuurtje

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    hm mine had the plastic foil on it aswell, i just removed it, but it has lower temps now, before when i stressed it went over 90 dg c and crashed instantly as a security measure. That doesnt happen anymore but when stressing it does go up to 81 dg /c i am stressing with orthos. Dont have cooling paste atm, so gonna buy that tomorrow and see if that cools things down. I really hate my laptop arrived like this with this major production error, but i dont want to send it back :p its not that hard task to repair so i can do it myself.
     
  35. blackwidow99

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    if you have ordered the 5790, i am pretty sure it comes with the arctic silver 5 already, no need to buy and repaste it yourself.

    btw, wht plastic foil?
     
  36. Wirelessman

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    I have a T7700 and the temp oscillate between 49C to 54C when on high performance battery mode. Depending on the usage (games) the temp could go up, which is fine, however close to 100C is bad.