T9800 on the m860tu

Why is it that xotic no longer offers the T9600 but a T9800 instead, with a silmilar price?

 

It's the new line of Montevina processors which is replacing everything except the P8600. I feel that resellers like Xotic should have been advertising the arrival of the new CPUs to those who were buying their notebooks over the last few weeks, maybe month.

Sorry but a brand new line of processors should be more than a stealth update.

 

looks like a deal, get it

 

As Intel lowers the prices on processors, retailers can either buy the now cheaper ones and drop the price or keep the price the same and offer a superior product. xotic has chosen to do the latter.

As an aside, I just tried configuring a laptop on their website and I'm pretty amazed. My laptop is not even a year old (I bought it last February) and for almost the same price ($100-150 difference), you can get something that is substantially better in almost every respect (I guess the M860TU is slightly thicker and heavier, but that's about it). It appears Moore's law is alive and well.

 

uh? Lol don't quite catch what you mean by a stealth update. I know im pretty bummed out cus i only had my M860tu for a week and a half. A part of me wants to return the laptop and repurchase it with the new cpu, but it seems like a huge hassle.

 

What I mean by "stealth update" is that there was never any posting on the website that the new line was going to be added in January; people like yourself who were buying in mid to late December weren't told that the new processors were coming out, even though the companies knew ahead of time that the change was going to be made.

If I'd just got mine a week ago like you Pmode, I'd send it back for the T9800.

 

You should give them a call to see if you can get upgraded to the new CPU for little (difference between current and other CPU) or no cost. They should have some kind of price guarantee so if you're within 14 days or something you should be able to change.

 

for sure get the t9800 over the t9600 no matter who you buy from if its almost the same price imo

 

Do you guys happen to know how i could send it back, is original packaging required? i kinda trashed the boxes and baggies this past weekend.

 

Just how, precisely, do you "know" that the companies (whomever that might be) knew ahead of time that Intel was going to drop its prices? It wasn't until about a week ago that the news that Intel was considering dropping prices as of Jan. 18th was leaked, so I doubt if "the companies" had any better info that was solid and reliable enough that they could advertise that the cheaper processors would be available on such and such a date.

If anything, that's part of caveat emptor - do your own research, and if you feel a price drop is coming based on that research, either ask the reseller you're considering, or wait until the time your research says the prices should be dropping.

 

I thought there was a big controversy a while back on here about resellers advertising new parts to early? Anyways, companies like xoticpc or power notebooks haven't really ever advertised the availability of new products. I remember when the np5793 went on backorder and then poof the people who had back ordered laptops all of a sudden had 5796's being shipped to them instead. A nice surprise for those who had backorder laptops, but that kind of thing should be announced in advance.

From a business point of view, since they offer a 30 no questions asked refund, having dozens of people shipping back laptops seems like a big hassle.
>.> I actually think thats why there where great deals on the 5793 for a while after the 5796 was released, because a lot of the 5793 ended up being returned, I know I would have.

 

Wow. Great deal at XOTICPC. I'd snap one up right away if I had an extra $500 on hand.

 

Must be something like the Goldilocks effect - there's a controversy no matter what the resellers do, unless, of course, they manage to get it "just right."

 

how do i send it in? i've alerady trashed the boxes. for everything, even my cooler.

 

I didn't realise the 'darned if you do, darned if you don't' phrase had an actual term.

 

lol i keep my box the time till the warranty ends after that i put it in trash

 

so, am i pretty much screwed ? since i dont' have my boxes?

 

Is this worth it for someone who has the P9500???Theres some on Ebay....

 

for me yes if you OC it

 

Pmode. Boxes are boxes. As long as you can securely pack the laptop and the little trinkets that came with it, it's good for return. How to pack such a delicate laptop I'll leave up to you. You have already seen how your laptop was packed when it came to you, so you might want to use that as your base.

Bluemercury. The T9800 is just under 14% faster than the P9500. If you can purchase the T9800 and sell the P9500 at a decent price to make up the difference, then it would be an fairly okay deal.

Also, check with your vender about your warranty when upgrading your CPU. If the warranty allows you to upgrade the CPU, then you can safely sell the P9500 and drop a T9800 in. If the warranty does not allow you to upgrade the CPU, then you have two options. You can either buy the T9800 and keep the original P9500 as backup for when something FUBAR happens to your laptop and you need to send it back for warranty work, or you can buy the T9800 and lose hardware warranty coverage. The former is expensive and the latter is risky.

 

If you have the powerful p9500 already don't bother to get the T9800. Its basically more number crunching ability than anything else, saves you a few minutes on processing programs. Save your cash and wait for something with a different dynamic. Like a nice quad core that will fit safely in the m860tu and if not, then later on think about upgrading the processor to the highest it can possibly go. By then, it'd be cheaper.

 

Yeah the T9800 made more sense for me, as I doubled my L2 cache and added a ~20% performance increase. It's not a move I would've made over the P9500, unless I hit a serious bottleneck in an RTS.

And yes, ye old P8600 is tucked away securely, just in case I need to send the system back to Prostar.

Soviet Sunrise, did you ever install that Q9000? How's it working for you?

 

I blame recession.....

 

whats the performance increase if i were to upgrade?

 

Upgrade from T9600 to T9800? Unless you count every SECOND saved as a second gained, absolutely nothing.


Lol, even the rep at PCMicroworks told me that I made a good choice with the blu ray and anything from the P9500 and over didn't see much differences in their processor intensive tasks. At least, nothing to brag about.

 

I agree, Deathwinger. At the moment, it is totally not worth the hassle or the money to upgrade from a P9500 to a T9800. I explained it in the most ideal situation, but it is unlikely that anyone will be able to pull it off smoothly. And as you said, the P9500 is powerful enough already. Congrats on 1337, Deathwinger.

Kevin_Jack2.0. I withdrew my M860TU order with RJTech. Thankfully I didn't pay them yet so I am at no loss. I am ditching the M860TU path and moving up to the M570TU. I was able to snag a new OEM Q9100 for a cool $360 off of eBay and with the recent price cut on Clevo systems, I find that I am in the best position to buy a new Clevo now. I will either order tomorrow or this Friday depending on when I get back from my business trip.

 

Hmm, well, guess we'll have to wait a little longer to see how the 'budget' quads handle in the 15 inch clevo.

But I feel the q9000 would do just fine in it.

 

It might be better to ask this guy. ( http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-OEM-Core2...4|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50)

Someone asked the seller a question with great detail about the QX9300 and the M860TU.

"Q: Hello, You say in your auction that the QX9300 is compatible with the Clevo M860TU. However I just received an OEM QX9300 and the laptop will not post with that CPU (display remains black) even though it sounds as if the laptop was booting normally. I would like to know if you've tested these CPUs yourself in an M860TU and if yes, did you use a special BIOS, because I'm currently using the 1.01.13 which is the latest. Thanks for your help! Jan-12-09
A: Hello! I never sell you QX9300 OEM No records sorry about that!"

Whoever asked that question tried an OEM QX9300 and failed to get it to work with the latest BIOS. But the factor of how old that person's M860TU motherboard is still unknown. Clevo may have silent updated the motherboard in their December specs of the M860TU and that the user may have a motherboard manufactured before December. Lastly, the seller reveals to us that his reading comprehension is equivilant to a fifth grader and gave an incredibly lame response back to the user.

We have already debunked the thermal, electrical, and socket compatibility aspects and it seems that it is only the BIOS being the downfall here as it lacks the instruction code necessary for the M860TU to accept a quad.

 

Hey, I just got one of these bad boys z0mg awesome machine.

trying to install XP but getting the standard sata not recognized error.

Cannot find the drivers anywhre to slipstream .

x9000 2.8ghz

really would appreiciate if some1 cud sort me out or tell me exactly what to change to get round it in the bios....no luck so far ;(

 

Why X9000 instead of T9600 or T9800? You can't even overclock the extreme processor, so you'll be running hot with no benefit.

 

Do you actually mean x9000, or x9100?

 

but can an X9000 (not X9100) work (@default) on a M860TU "montevina" platform?? Anyone tried it?

 

No it can't. I think the OP just made a mistake.

 

Yes, an X9000 can work, because the platform is backwards compatible. You could throw an old T5850 in there if you had to.

 

kevin, have you ever tried it or another "santarosa" cpu?

From what I know, the chipset yes is compatible but it has to be compatible also the bios..

 

yes it can work. you need a 45nm chip though anything before the refresh will not work

 

Have you tried any santarosa cpu yet??
gooood news however

 

the 45nm chips will work from after the refresh. not the older x7900 ones or the t7xxx series.

 

anything experienced? I hope so..

 

not personally but thats what a tech at sager told me.