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    Temps and Bench Galore !!

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by fluffyuk, Mar 30, 2010.

  1. fluffyuk

    fluffyuk Notebook Deity

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    Hi some of you guys have been askng for some temps and benches as well as some battery tests and overall difference between the 285M and the 5870. So here they are:

    Temps Idle:

    285M (Temps idle, with Shin Etsu paste):

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    5870 (Temps idle, without Shin Etsu paste):

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    Note:
    I didnt appy Shin Etsu to the 5870 as 'if it aint broke dont fix it'.
    Secodndlt temps are with plastic vent sticker removed.

    Temps Under Load: (Wasnt able to obain any load temps of the 285M before I sent it back).


    5870 (After 6 runs of the Crysis Benchmark):

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    Benchmarks:

    285M (Vantage):

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    285M (3DMark 06):

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    5870 (Vantage):

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    5870 (3DMark 06):

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    5870 (Crysis Benchmark):

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    285M (Batman AA Benchmark, Very High Detail):

    Min: 22
    Avg: 39
    Max: 53

    5870 (Batman AA Benchmark, Very High Detail):

    Min: 14
    Avg: 59
    Max: 60

    Overall Opinion:

    As many of you hear already know and have known, the 5870 is by far the better card, it shines over the 285M in beches, as for in game I personally have noticed the difference. Previously when I would play Crysis on High Frame Rates would drop in areas were there was alot going on (albiet not by much) here I feel that games run smoother and I am able to push that little bit extra out of the game, e.g a couple of things on very High in Crysis. (However the gain in visuals doesnt merit the slight drop in performance).

    Given that the 5870 is also $55 cheaper than the 285M I see it as a no brainer, and I see no other reason why some who is purchasing a new Notebook to go with any other card.

    If anyone else would like to me run some tests, please let me know and I will do asap. Sorry that the comaprisons between the two cards arent very comprihensive, I had to strike while the iron was hot and send my laptop back, so I didnt have time to get 285M results.
     
  2. othonda

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    Nice work on your post!

    The type of gaming I do is flight simming, and unfortunately that is the area where ATI drivers are a real problem, I would have chosen to go with 5870 if it wasn’t for that.

    Back in the day of the 800 series cards ATI had very good drivers for simming. Some in the FS community have complained to ATI, but seems like for the most part we are falling on deaf ears.

    Luckily Nvidia works pretty well after all these years for FS, otherwise I would be screwed.
     
  3. fluffyuk

    fluffyuk Notebook Deity

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    Ye the 285M is still a lovely card and runs cooler at idle so I have found, although when pushed becomes hotter.

    How is flight sim could you theoretically, fly from the US to the UK in the game ?
     
  4. othonda

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    Sure you could fly from Denver to UK. If you did it in real time (which is the only way I fly) it would take the same time as in real life, little over 9 hours. I usually plan flights in the 1-3 hours, as it get to tedious to spend more time at the puter. When I was growing up the two things I loved to do was flying and electronics. I ended up an electrical engineer, so I embellish my other interest in flight simming. :cool:
     
  5. IKAS V

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    Great work fluffyuk!
    This is a great comparison.
    5870 temps are awesome and it crushes the 285 in Vantage
    + rep bro
     
  6. fluffyuk

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    TY bud! much appreciated, will try and have some more comparisons up shorltly. Did one last night with Batman AA and the 5870 crushes that as well
     
  7. Blacky

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    Very nicely made.

    +rep fluffyuk
     
  8. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Great job! The only thing I would suggest is the use of thumbnails.

    With the 285M or the 5870 coupled with the i7 proc I don't there is a more powerful gaming system under 17".
     
  9. fluffyuk

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    HAHA thanks Drake, to be honest I actually thought I did use the thumbnails. I chose the wrong link :( I will go back and edit tonight to make it all around easier on the eyes.

    Do you mean you don't think there is a more powerful gaming system other than the 17" ?
     
  10. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Yes but not specific to the Clevo 17".

    It seems most high end 15" systems are more for CAD work than gaming.
     
  11. IKAS V

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    The only competition to this would be the AW M15x and that's not even in the same class when you compare GFX cards.
     
  12. kevindd992002

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    So OP you don't experience the "GPU heatsink not having good contact with GPU die" issue with the MR 5870?
     
  13. fzhfzh

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    Now that I'm in a temperate country with 70+F ambient temp, I can't help running another furmark test. Here's the furmark temp after running for 12min.

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    72C max core temp, and 78C max memIO temp after 12min of furmark run, ICD 7 paste, no notebook cooler whatsoever.

    Conclusion: Furmark just got owned further, extreme burning test? More like lukewarm water bath for the clevo.
     
  14. fluffyuk

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    When I looked I didn't see any immediate problems, as im getting good temps anyway I haven't fiddled with the fixture. If I decide to overclock my 5870 and start getting higher temps I might consider it until then its fine the way it is.

    P.S Nice burning scores. I totally agree 'Luke warm" at best lol
     
  15. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    Wow. That's better than my M17X with 4870's. Ice-cold, IMHO.
     
  16. lackofcheese

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    That's not true, the 5850 isn't far off the 5870.
     
  17. The Revelator

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    That's a 3 month old post you're replying to, before the most recent upgrade cycle that brought the 5850 to the M15x.
     
  18. lackofcheese

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    It's wrong now, and on the latest page of the thread, so it's worth correcting.
     
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    Very nice fluffy +rep.
     
  20. fluffyuk

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    Thanks Crylo appreciated!
     
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    Be careful of that ICD 7 paste. After a few warnings about it scratching the chip DIE, I did a few tests myself on some old unneeded chips and it does very easily scratch the surface where other thermal pastes won't do this.
     
  22. Quadzilla

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    Yeah i stopped using ICD awhile ago just because of that ... Scratched my old 920xm and 5870 in the Clevo i had .... It works well but honestly i found it no better then OCZ freeze and its much easier to work with OCZ as it spreads a ton easier...
     
  23. fzhfzh

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    I know that ICD 7 will scratch the die as was warned, but it's of no big deal practical speaking as long as the scratch won't damage the chip, it's just that the wordings will be gone and bad if you want to resell your chip.