Tempurature analysis/comparison on x7200

I'm starting this thread at the suggestion of Aikimox and other np7280/x7200 owners who seem to experiencing extremely high system idle and load temps. The hope is x7200 owners will post their temps and we will thereby be able to see average temps on this model, if there is an endemic temperature problem on this model with certain configs, or if the is localized to a few with bad hardware.

When posting your system temps, please use the below tools and follow the template.

Monitoring Tools

We want to try to eliminate any divergence in results due to different monitoring and stress test tools -- please ONLY employ the most recent version of these standard tools in your test:

HWMonitor - For monitoring chipset, CPU and GPU temps

Prime95 - CPU and memory stress testing

Furmark - GPU stress testing

Please list:

• Your particlular x7200's specifications and config
• Whether you use a laptop cooler
• Your room/ambiant temperature

Test parameters and steps

Your system should NOT be overclocked when testing.

Idle test
1. Boot to Windows
2. Leave system idle for 10 minutes (no Youtube, anti-virus scanning or torrents!)
3. Using HWMonitor, record your Chipset, CPU and GPU temps
CPU load test
1. From Windows, run Prime95 (all threads) for 5 minutes
2. Using HWMonitor, record your Chipset, CPU
3. Let system idle for 1 min, record your Chipset, CPU
GPU load test
1. From windows, run Prime95 (all threads) for 5 minutes
2. Using HWMonitor, record your GPU temps
3. Let system idle for 1 min, record your GPU temps

*Screencap of HWMonitor at load Prime95 temps is useful

My Test results:

Specs: Sager np7280 l i7 950 l GTX 485m SLI l 6GB RAM 1033 l 240GB OCZ Vertex 2 (in bay 3), 750GB HDD (bay 1)
Cooler: NTXZ Cryo Cooler
Ambiant temp: 23c

Idle temps:

CPU: 61c-56c-60c-58c

Chipset: 58.7c

GPU: 37c-38c

Load temps:

CPU: 92c-86c-89c-83c

Chipset: 87.8c

GPU: 59c-61c

Load temps after 1 min idle:

CPU: 64c-60c-59c-62c

Chipset: 62.2c

GPU: 39c-41c

 

harmattan,

One other measurement we should get - H/W temps 1 minute after each test. Now I don't have futuremark installed, but have been using Prime95. Testing was done w/ the Clevo x7200 (hooked up to my KVM w/ blank display on x7200) sitting on a wooden desk - no notebook cooler in play.

It's a little cool here today in Midwest (USA), but here are my tests:

Idle - booted, and waited... no activity for 60+ minutes

-

• Ambient room temp is 19C
• CPUs - 49C,46C,48C,43C,48C,48C
• Clevo x7200 (MoBo?) - 43C
• GPU (460M)- 31C

-

Load - Prime95
-

• Ambient room temp is 19C
• CPUs - 71C,64C,72C,60C,70C,67C
• Clevo x7200 (MoBo?) - 69C
• GPU (460M)- 33C

Note, I did hit high 88C-89C on three cores, but it was only for a brief moment and the fans kicked in during the run.

1 minute cooling - after stopping / shutting down Prime95

• Ambient room temp is still 19C
• CPUs - 57C,53C,56C,49C,55C,54C
• Clevo x7200 (MoBo?) - 51C
• GPU (460M)- 33C

Graphics Test
Did not run.

 

Thanks, I've updated template to record 1 min after test.

Dang, there are a lot of x7200 owners in the Midwest. From the Cleve (main industry: crippling depression) originally myself Isn't AVADirect in Twinsburg?

Edit: One thing I notice is that my chipset temp is much, much higher than yours at load and at idle.

 

Dunno exactly. They're somewhere near Cleveland, (and from maps so is Twinsburg) so that may be the case. FWIW, I'm in Central IL.

 

Here are my temps after 10 minutes using prime 95.

Room temperature = around 20ºC.



http://forum.notebookreview.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=61960&stc=1&d=1298673530

 

My idle temps are about 38º C for GPU, and between 40's and 50's for the cpu/mobo

 

I WISH I had temps like that (albeit they are still high).

Anyone know how to monitor vcore voltage on the x7200? I'm looking in both CPUID and Core Temp, but both core voltage/VID field are gray-ed out. Just a hunch, but there be something funky going on here (it's doubtful this many of us got bad-batch cpus...)

 

I've been trying to mod the vid in my x7200, but the problem is, and after much research, the core i7's cpu's don't allow the VID modding using software. It's only possible to do it through the mobo. If it was possible, many of the overheating problems, if not all, would be solved by lowering the VID. it's a shame it isn't.

 

my temp after hyperpi 32m 12t
980x batch 3031a
mx3
no nb cooler
fan auto
room 21c

idle when surfing the Internet

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Hi there
here is my temps had all ready made them when i reed the timings of the test


idle
THMO 40C

CPU 42C
43C
46C
33C
43C
40C

GPU 43C
40C

Idle with FN+1
THMO 37C

CPU 38C
41C
42C
31C
41C
38C

GPU 36C
36C


Prime95 after about 5 min
THMO 88C


CPU 90C
86C
84C
84C
90C
90C

GPU 42C
41C


Prime95 after about 10 min

THMO 87C

CPU 90C
86C
85C
83C
89C
88C

GPU 43C
40C


Prime95 after about 20 min

THMO 87C


CPU 88C
85C
85C
82C
89C
88C

GPU 43C
41C


furmark after 1min 30 sec

THMO 50C


CPU 54C
51C
54C
44C
55C
49C

GPU 71C
69C


furmark after 5 min


THMO 52C


CPU 55C
53C
56C
45C
57C
51C


GPU 82C
77C
Room temp 20C

The 7280
980x
480sli

 

Hello, great idea to start this thread:

My Test results:

Specs: Sager np7280 l i7 950 l GTX 470m SLI l 12GB RAM 1033
Cooler: None used
Ambiant temp: 16c-17c

Idle temps:

CPU: 47c-45c-47c-45c

Chipset: 42c

GPU: 36c-29c

Load temps:

CPU: 86c-84c-83c-84c

Chipset: 85c

GPU: 41c-39c

Load temps after 1 min idle:

CPU: 58c-56c-58c-58c

Chipset: 54c

GPU: 37c-30c



The results seem very strange, compared to Harmattan - our processor temps under load are very close, yet my idle temps are significantly better. It is worth keeping in mind that we ordered our x7200-s on the same day, so chances are we have the same batch of CPUs.

PS: Also - take a look at my brand new battery wear level! It was 10% when I first turned the laptop on, and went 29% after two days of usage - what on Earth is this supposed to mean?

 

Hi just oc my cpu and gpu
and Cpu temps have gone up non notiseble now running 3.5ghz non boost 4.2ghz turbo bost
Gpu have gone up a bit but not criticle
Gpu Oc from 425-850-1200 to 495-990-1220
vantage gain was 2626 points

 

O sorry put it in the wrong thread

 

I just made a last ditch effort before rma-ing to reseat the CPU (a 960 I had)... my temps are now 12-14c cooler at load!

The only thing I did differently this time (by accident) was to leave off the three small screws on the copper Chipset ARM of the cooler. It seems, however, my Chipset temps are actually better without the screws fastened. What is going on here???

 

u mean the north bridge copper arm??
that should be fastened, or might burn your nb

 

That's what I thought too, but temps on the chipset were fine and the NB arm was obviously still making good contact. In any case, I've reinserted the screws and temps are still 10-12c less than they were when I started (and still higher than I'm comfortable running long-term).

 

So your load temps are something like very high-70's to mid-80's? Is that a constant during the load or a max? If so, you're getting closer.

I forgot what TIM you said was used. For me, the Arctic Silver needed a good 6 week break-in to get temps down to high 60's - mid 70's.

 

Hi guys i just started to run speedfan 4,42 and the values are strange im getting the values i should have when running idle but HWmonitor is still showing realy hot idles here is a pic and this is taken with no OC




HW monitor vs Speedfan
Pls give me feedback

 

Sorry for so meny pics but the first ones was not posible to make out the numbers

 

I did some further testing and it's not as rosey as I thought. My load temps (after 4 min of Prime) are still relatively high, but lower than before, around 87c on the hottest core. I was hitting 94c before my last re-application. My idle temps, however, have dropped from 64c to 57c on the hottest core after about 4 min of no activity.

I hope you're right. I know everyone says you'll get lower temps after AC breaks in, but in my experience this usually only equates to 2-3c lower.

 

That is really strange!

I've never heard of SpeedFan, so I cannot really comment. I did notice SpeedFan is reporting on hyper-threaded CPUs, where HWMonitor is only reporting the actual cores. I don't know if that has anything to do with it. Also, some of the other temps GPU/case seem to be off by one. Could be rounding issues there.

Have you thought about contacting either developer CPUID or Alfredo Milani perhaps they can give you a better indication on what is happening.

 

I always thought so as well, but I can safely say Day #2 (Dec 3, 2010) with the x7200 - constant 78C to 85C under load. As of a couple of days ago (Feb 25, 2011) - 68C to 74C. A drop of roughly 10 Centigrade throughout the 6 cores.

 

i was running core temp as well before and that one was just in the midle of these ones temp wise three difrent progs three readings strange, maybe if you have time you could try running speed fan and se if you get the same
http://www.almico.com/speedfan442.exe here is a direct link

 

I'll check it out later tonight (of course, local time).

 

dont bother with 4.42 its somthing not corect with its readings found a newer ver 4.43 ver 12 beta and that one has exactly the same readings as cpuid that one shows high 40c to low 50c in idle

 

Alright. If you have a SpeedFan that is working correctly, I'm glad to hear it.

 

sorry...brain is not working today and my mind wonders...but if a cpu is an engineering sample...has anyone had issues with it reporting any temps to either the win7 monitor or any 3rd party monitoring software?

I also have an issue with my gpu (7950gtx mobile) not reporting temp OR fan speed....

it's annoying and problematic as I am trying to figure out if it's my vid card having a cow or something else entirely.

thanks for humoring me...

 

There's something definitely really f-ed up about the temps on my x7200. I'm running 64c idle (avg across cores) and am getting high 90cs with fans at full blast now after just 4 min in Prime95, and about 20 min in BFC2, then throttling. After running load, it takes about 10 min for my temps to go back to mid-60cs.

I've tried three CPUs (950, 960, 920), three different pastes (AS5, AS ceramique and AC MX-4), and re-seated several times, but the temps always settle to be this high. This laptop is starting to be a huge waste of my time... my guess is there's something wrong with the voltage control or the northbridge.

I've been in a back-and-forth dialogue with Xotic, but they keep telling me the Sager engineers say these temps are safe -- there's no way this can be right and the CPU definitely shouldn't be throttling.

 

We have been testing a new BIOS/EC which specifically addresses higher CPU temps from Prime load with some i7-960s so this should/may be available in the next couple of days as an official release

Seeing the CPU clock throttling back under Prime load does happen, especially if ambient temps are high but if it's throttling in BF2 then that's certainally not normal.

 

Safe to assume you're seeing high temps across all CPUs?

 

How does it address the temp issues ? and what effect would this BIOS have on other cpu's...need more info here.

 

I can say that my 990 is NOT having the high temp issues.

 

Yes, the 950, 960, and 920 produce about the same temps within 3-4 degrees

Great news on the new bios... at least gives me some hope.

 

Good news indeed

Lower temps always welcome, what other improvements/features does the bios bring? Does this bios improve xtu overclocking at all? Its been ages since the last update

Using coolaboratry ultra is really keeping my temps very reasonable

 

I can't give out change log information on BIOS which haven't been officially released yet or that other companies aren't offering/haven't tested yet as it would be unfair for me to pre-empt other company's tech support. We're still testing though but from what we saw after the initial testing before we updated the BIOS it was only a couple of 960s that were running warmer than we would usually expect, however they were completely stable in Prime for well over 12 hours.

Definitely shouldn't be seeing any stability issues with any CPU models, even though some of them may run warm there's bound to be variance once you take into account ambient temp, humidity, CPU to CPU difference etc. If you run Primes for 5 mins you're also not getting to the end of the 2nd thread which is usually where the temps start to max out, this is usually after about 11 minutes. If you through Ocing into the equasion too then it gets more complicated, so what is meant by "temp issues" seems to differ from user to user?

 

Hi there you think the BIOS you are testing would have any impact on my 980x have no cpu oc and when wrighting this my temps are loocking 58 56 55 55 56 42 and mobo 51
and my oc gpu s are 41 41 .
the gpu are almost the same temp as when they where stock so they arent a prob but the mobo and the cpu it hits 90c running BC2 for 30 min wile the oc gpu only hits at max oc 80 to 82c strange

 

Any new on this new bios yet??

 

It's been quiet since Kevin's response.

 

I'm also interested in seeing some results on this. Mine idles mid-50's. I think since I've been running it 24/7 since I got it, the idle temps dropped a 2-3 degrees, but I was hoping for less.

Updates?

 

How are people getting on with temps lately? Just played half an hour or so on BFBC2 and hit mid 70's on all four cores (i7 950) and 81 max on one GPU and 68 on second GPU (these are 485m's in SLI). Any guidance on whether these are ok temps?

Thanks

 

In regards to CPU, that's about where I'm at mid-70s at load, hi 40s to low 50s idle.

 

for you guys with high temps or are irretated wit fan cycling try the new Clevo EC together with kizwan made Sager Bios lowerd my temps with about 5 to 10c Idle i was having 58 to 61c idle now lowest is 42c highest is 49c idle
my THM0 was at 48 to 56c now 42 to 45c

 

Can you provide links for said bios?

 

here is a link to a folder that contains all of it even a txt with instructions how to do it
File name: all files needed.rar File size: 3.58 MB

 

I just flashed it this afternoon, and while the temps aren't much lower (before idling 58-60, now is idling 56-58), the whole fan cycling up and down is a bit more in control.

Thanks so much for packaging this up!

By the way, hope that some of the people are still watching this thread who can contribute to this. I am still hoping for a better idle temp with the beta bios that was mentioned earlier in the thread.

Any updates are appreciated!

 

i can se you have 470m here is something you might like a modded vBIOS with higher V from 0.95 to0.99
File name: nvidiagtx470m_std535mhz_01.zip File size: 47.61 KB


Did you also install the EC ??
and the modded Sager bios

 

You can use MSI Afterbuner and make a fan profile, that way you have more control on the temps.

MSI Afterburner 2.2.0 Beta 2 download from Guru3D.com

 

Thats for video cards... I'm worried about CPU temps. My video cards idle at 31C and 37C, so I have no issues there.

 

Yes (EC first) and
Yes (Sager bios).

Not sure if I need vBios update. Haven't had any issues whatsoever with these cards.

 

This if you want to oc they give you V so you can up the clocks higher its the same bios you have but with V sett to higher setting nothing else. Of course the EC will give dif results to dif CPU its not the bios that does its the EC on mine i can change bios left and right no change in temp but if i flash the old EC back then temps rise again and the f-ing fan cycling