The GTX 280M Overclocking and Benchmarking Results Thread

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this is the crysis benchmarks running on the msi 725 ...

for the gtx280m i was expecting it to atleast hit 45 flips per second ...



I had so much hope for it ...


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You do know that's warhead right? I'll install that in the morning, too late...

 

sorry ... but arent them the same engine and same thing ???



this is getting confusing ...




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Faisalhero's 4850 running Crysis at the same settings:

 

Kevin,

so it seems like the GTX280 is better ???

am i right ???
coz the average fps is higher ...

and the 725 only managed about 26 fps ... on average ...

so it is true ... the gtx280 setup are better ...




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Warhead tends to run far better than the original Crysis because its engine is updated and far more optimized.

 

the one game that I wanted to play so much is Age of Conan ...

I was wondering if anyone knows how well AOC will run on the GTX280M Setup as well as the MSI GT725 Setup



anyone ???


Regards


A Falling Cat named Spangky

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FWIW, I ran L4d on max settings last night, no FPS yet.

 

the 280m "
should" chew thru age of conan like its nothing

 

2 benches and I'm off to work:

Crysis Warhead, framebuffer bench
600/1500/950
CCC v3.00 Level 5 dx10 32 bit
1680 x 1050: 20.87
1440 x 900: 27.39

The game seems playable "maxed" at 1440 x 900. 64 bit is a tad smother which is not avail for this benchmark tool, I may try another one for future testing. All the bells and whistles are running, even object motion blur. I've got a lot more testing to do in the future, this is just the appetizer

 

no ccc, no oc, just stock everything to compare apples to apples....otherwise we won't know just how poweful your card realy is.

 

are you able to overclock the memory past 950mhz?

 

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^yeah! what he said!


are these test ran with the new or old crysis. patched or unpatched?

 

I'm at work now, but did not try past 950 memory. Bad news is 625+ on the core and 1550+ on the shader don't seem stable, so it's not much of an overclocker (which was the whole point, right?).

I've already done the "standard" bench, think it was 28.2~ on high and 16.0~ on very high, dx10, crysis 1.21, 1680 x 1050. 600/1500/950 brought high up about 2.5 fps.

Give me some time, probably this weekend till I edit the first post with an echelon of scores for multiple games in a tidy format, mmk? As well as overclocking results..

 

because you need to flash the higher voltage..more than likely.

 

sounds risky

 

to you.....probably does. to the rest of us that have been doing it...just like turning on your computer...

or

nvidia was telling the truth and the card is near it's max point...which would not be good at all..


single card run

 

You have to flash the higher voltages if you want to reach the cards overclocking potential. As he said, it's really a zero risk operation once you've done it once.

The fact that you're stable @ 600/1500/950, without the voltage raise, proves that the 280M is a beast overclocker.

 

sounds good. LVL 5 is like Very High right? does it have the rainbow water effects?

 

Sounds good, so how do I over volt?

And yes, CCC level 5 is crysis maxed out. It has everything very high has, god rays, color grading, object blur, etc but optimized.

 

on the laptop you have, the "max" resolution lvl 5 is playable is 1440x900 res right?

 

oh ok, good enough. it just wasn't very clear by your posts. you don't really have to waste your time benching other games, unless you want to.

in conclusion; the 280m gtx is 20% faster than 8800m gtx / 9800m gt and 10% faster than 9800m gtx.

 

Pretty much. If I can overclock it further that would help, it's not exactly smooth as butter on level 5 DX10 @1440x900.

Pretty much what we expected

 

we shall shall see....it should be more than that. but it also seems more to the fact of it's new clock speed. but if this thing cant out over clock the 9800m gtx....another sad day in the mobile gtx history

 

it won't be

another poster posted crysis benchmarks as well with this card and the performance difference was the same as what this poster is stating....it's not like drivers are going to magically make this card another 10% better than the older cards.

in simplistic terms, it is a complete waste of money upgrading from 9800m gtx to 280m gtx because both cards have 1 gig vram and the 10% gain does not warrant $500 dollars.

 

overclocking with laptops is considered an oxymoron

 

I disagree. 1) The GTX 280M is considerably cheaper than the 9800M GTX and 2) contrary to popular belief, 1gb of memory is significant. The reason why it doesn't seem so is because the settings used to compare the cards aren't maxxed enough to warrant stressing the limits of the memory buffer. For instance, Far Cry 2 makes use of more GPU memory, and if you were to run a 8800M GTX with even a 9800M GTX at stock settings, the difference in performance will be well over 10%.

Also, I'm sure upping the voltage would help things as well in terms of OC ability. Problem is that this card is new and there is only one of it per system. Thus, there aren't many people willing to take the risk of flashing the only card they have

I've heard this one before . Tell that to Intel, Asus, Clevo, Dell, MSi, etc.

 

100 percent agreement with ichime!

also...these cards need to be in the hands of an enthusiast to find out what they are really made of. and that goes with any high end product.

 

Upload your bios and I'll give you a overvolted one!

 

For curiosity's sake, what would be the performance % over a 9800m GTS? Which is of course.. your only option for a 5793 right now buying new.

IE what would you gain going with a 97 over a 93?

 

you do know you can now flash your vga cards in vista right?
thanks to gangstaone.

although nibtor wont recognize the gtx280m though, but of course that can be circumvented

let me see what you have for a benchmark.

benchmark compare for a single 9800m gtx
1680x1050 original crysis no patch high

1680x1050 patched high

far cry 2 single card run.

 

both 9800m gtx and 280m gtx have 1 gig vram, fyi. they perform about par with eachother. these tests already prove this. i think you guys are searching for something that does not exist, yet. these cards are not the generational leap we witnessed from 6800 to 7800 to 8800 series. the 1 gig vram, the 9800m gtx has over the 8800m gtx is significant only to a game that needs more than 512 vram, like crysis playing at high settings in high resolution. i cannot play crysis higher than 1440x900 with high settings because the 8800m gtx cards lack vram to handle it, but at lower resolutions like 1280x800 it plays just fine. i would not get more than 10% fps if i upgrade to 9800m gtx in crysis but the gameplay experience will be alot more than 10% since the micro stuttering will be eliminiated with the 1 gig vram on the cards. i believe crysis is the only game that can really use more than 512 vram right now. on the other hand, i play alot of supreme commander and i max the game out with no issues and it scales well with sli. the game does not require more than 512 vram so upgrading to 9800m gtx from 8800m gtx will result in almost no perforamce gain.

i ment to say that gpu overclocking is a moot point in laptops. these clevo systems are using their respective power bricks to the fullest and the very first thing you will have to get is a beefier power supply to maintane stability with overclocking. there is no bigger power supply available so all this oc talk is irrelavent and cannot be used as judgement.

 

my reply to all this... you only have to look at your signature.
Sager 9262 / Clevo D900C | 2.4Ghz Q6600 | 8800M GTX 512 SLI | 640Gb 5400 rpm Raid 0 array 1st 2 drives & 3rd drive as 320Gb 5400 rpm independant | 17" WUXGA | XP

but look on the bright side of it.. a girl with a machine like yours has the highest over clocked 8800m gtx & highest vantage mark score. running windows vista.
so kick xp to the curb already...

 

So many of us are already overvolting and overclocking to the extreme with our given Clevo power supplies, with zero stability issues. How can you say this?

 

Yeah, I already knew that the GTX 280M and the 9800M GTX had 1gb, which is why I made my point.

You are hurting your argument here. Your admitting that the extra VRAM in the 9800M GTX and GTX 280M would indeed help in high resolution gaming, which are what these cards are meant for in the first place. I mean, it's fine to play Crysis at 1440x900, but just because the difference at those settings are not that significant between the 8800M GTX and the 9800M GTX doesn't mean that that's going to be the case at every setting. Crysis, Far Cry 2, GTA IV, etc would offer significantly better performance at higher settings compared to an 8800M GTX/9800M GT.

I disagree with this also. No notebook or even desktop is using the maximum available power to their fullest in stock form. If that were the case, overclocking would be impossible and Intel wouldn't be foolish enough to make Extreme overclockable CPUs for notebooks. Of course, the higher you overclock, the closer one is to instability, but there is enough headroom in current power supplies for decent overclocks before reaching that point.

 

because you cannot prove the stability in all of the same conditions that the stock clocks can.

can you run crysis for 24 hours in a room with ambient temperature of 85 degrees fahreneit? gpu longevity? there was a poster named dexgo on here and he was the king of gpu overclock. he fried all of his cards and he even claimed this.

this is common talk here. oc cannot be used as judgement. it works different for everyone.

 

yeah, kind of why he aint the king now...
im gonna say...i am...

and i have yet to fry anything and my machine is competing with the best of them....

 

I'll post a 3d mark 06 bench in a bit, downloads going to take a half hour.

I'm on xp as well.

 

you guys really need to upgrade to vista or higher to see what your cards are made off..most of the games are better optimized (as most people put it) for dx10.

and i already disproved that belief that xp runs faster at games than vista. not one person has passed any of my vista game runs using xp. and are having a hard time keeping up using dx9 xp (most and not all(vs dx9 vista))

 

ARGH: i'm sorry that i will disappoint you but Dexgo knows nothing about overclocking what he know is from me for GPU i mean It took me two months to explain to him how to overclock his GPU with already overclocked bios maked by me

After that he take what he learn from me and he told to few guys how to overclock their gpus and get all the credit without knows how this works
and about stability even stock clocks fails in high temps condition and for D901C overclocking is not a problem for the video cards because the
temps are no more then few deg. more and this is nothing but i have seen many notebook that shutdown because of high temps with stock
clocks if you clean your laptop and if you know what you are doing everything will be fine

 

john - Vista and 7 may be wonderful, but I use mostly older programs from the 90's and up to 2002. I didn't buy the machine to be a L33T gamer or whatever.

Photoshop, getting in 3ds max, heavy web browsing, multitasking is what I'm getting this machine into, with a side helping of gaming.

So before you recommend Vista and 7 to everyone, consider not everybody wants absolute maximum scores, we may have other tasks or prefer the stability of stock values and official drivers.

 

well i can tell you that stock dosnt mean stability

 

hhmm, well you have in your sig "GPU: NVIDIA Geforce 9800M GTX SLI 2GB
" and i think you should know that you really do not have 2gb of vram as sli cannot combine all the ram. it is not how multi gpu solutions work at the present time. you still only utilize ram from one of the cards. so i guess your credability is not as high as you might hope

 

i know that but apparently you dont know nothing about this just like Dexgo
i dont care how good other people thinks i'm or not thats why i didnt make my self the King of overclocking even
when i know you are just like him Compressed air

 

if you know this why do you place it in your sig like a noob lol j/k

 

you might have shown him the bios way to oc but appearantly he took it further than you with his insane crysis scores. he scored 35fps average with one 8800m gtx, 1680x1050 all high settings.

again i am simply saying that you cannot use laptop overclocking as judgement on how good the gpu is or "can be". there are too many variables that normal users have no control over or even an option to. laptops are not desktops. all common talk, i know.

 

wow your are stupid
if you want to know why ..
because i have 2GB just using one
wow sorry i use only 3GB ram in Vista x86 not 4GB i have to correct this too yes

 

Let's not pervert this thread too much more with this argument. Those who want to OC, will, plain and simp. Whether you understand how to do it safely is another matter entirely.

Carry on.

 

but you dont know that he post my 3Dmark06 Score in the forum like his own hehe i hit 13200 with one 8800M GTX and he take my pics and post them but why i'm talking with you at all wow