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    The MSI 8970M/A10-5750M APU combo may be worth getting for one reason

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by TrantaLocked, Jun 28, 2013.

  1. TrantaLocked

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    The reason that the relatively cheap MSI AMD/AMD combo laptop (GX70 3BE) may be worth it is because PC ports will be based on code designed for the soon to be released AMD/AMD consoles. What better hardware to have in your laptop/desktop for running these next gen games than AMD/AMD hardware?
     
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    u might have a point there, but still: its not like nvidia will be sitting on their hands, but rather work on drivers to properly support any pc games ported from nextgen consoles. so seeing it from that point of view, the amd/amd config would only have a time advantage, not a performance one :)

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    That is still a long time advantage. We are talking 8+ years of AMD based PCs having it easier in terms of driver compatibility with games. Of course Nvidia GPUs will work just as well, but the company may have to make their cards beefier to keep up with the performance on AMD PCs. In the END it will be even, but games will simply be running more efficiently on AMD hardware.

    I am excited to see what happens when the next gen games come out. I hope I am right in my prediction, as I would love to see AMD cpus become popular again.
     
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    would surely be good for intel to have some competition again ;)

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    From what i've read so far, you're right and wrong. The gx series, is built resembling the the new consoles, with their weaker, cpu and overpowering gpu.

    With that said, most ports will be now heavily gpu based, as the next consoles will be sporting cpu's of laptop's and ultrabook hardware. This will make future ports run extremely well, despite the cpu being either intel or amd. As Intel will have enough horse power to chug through the code anyway...This is completely different to last gen, and it's heavily based cpu hardware(cell). Prime examples of ported games, would be GTA skyrim where a bump in frequency, could mean the difference of 10fps.

    The only performance loss intel is going to suffer, is through integrated graphics. So intel ultra book gaming is not going to be very fun in the next couple of years.
    For reference. Amd integrated graphics, should run games a lot better, in theory. http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/06/07/a...-titles-are-likely-to-struggle-on-intel-tech/

    As coders are usually lazy, and usually pushed for time, they would copy as much of the code as possible. IF this is the case, nVidia is going to be pushed for performance, like you said! Unless nvidia fork out some cash for developers to optimise the code, for their hardware...

    Amd made the right choice making it's way into the consoles, when they did. In the next several years, amd could come out on top. In all honesty Im quite excited to see if they will be able to pull it off or not.

    So yes, i agree with your first post. the GX series would be a wise buy, and probably won't suffer from being cpu bound as much as it was last year. In theory, It's basically a console in a laptop form.
     
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    R3d Notebook Virtuoso

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    The consoles use Jaguar based CPUs while the A10-5750m is piledriver based. Two different architectures.

    The games might be optimized for GCN, but that only has to do with the GPU.

    Which puts the gx60 in the same position as before... Good in some games and CPU bottlenecked in others.
     
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    Two different architectures, but Piledriver and Jaguar are going to be more similar than Intel Haswell and Jaguar.