All orders with ATi MR HD3870 or nVIDIA GeForce 9800M GTS will not be accepted as of now.
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Donald@Paladin44 Retired
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oh what a heart breaking news! I know 3870 is unstable, but GTS?
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WHAT!!!!!! it was so much cheaper with them
i was going to order one in about a month. hurry and order at xoticpc before they take it off
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armagideontime Notebook Consultant
i ordered with the gt, so this doesnt really affect me, but...why?
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someguyoverthere Notebook Evangelist
Yeah, what is the reason for this?
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Sigh, seems like this laptop is becoming less customizable by the minute.
I think that all those who have orders for the ATI and the GTS should be upgraded to the GT due to the misinformation of the pre-orders by XoticPC and Powernotebooks as compensation. -
now i'm going to have to what longer to get a laptop
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Justin@XoticPC Company Representative
Sager fully owns up to this and that is already in place Deathwinger. -
I thought the GTS was weaker than the GT, so why not allow that?
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Those lucky, cheap sons of hamsters.
Technical issues, I'm guessing. The 9800m GT pretty much is a 8800m GTX, so it's probably tried, true and ready for prime time. -
wow... u lucky muthas.... lol
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That's very good of them, Justin. I'm curious as to why the GTS and 3870 have been removed though, are you allowed to divulge this information?
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I think they are gonna refund those who ordered GT.
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Hmm, you're thinking free upgrades to those who ordered GTS/3870 and discounts to those who ordered GT?
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didn't justin say "Sager fully owns up to this and that is already in place Deathwinger."?
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That sucks for those of us who ordered it with the 9800m GT. We should get something too.
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.... That was precisely my point.
Deathwinger was asking about free upgrade to those who ordered 3870/GTS, and Justin said that, but there was no mention of discount for the GT. You're the one who brought up discount/refund for those who ordered the GT.
I'm merely combining both. -
Oh LOL, i was just suggesting.
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I know. I'm just combining your suggestion with what Justin said Sager was already doing. I was just thinking about how they're going do that.
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off topic, I didn't want to start another thread just for this ? can the 8660
handle a 500gb hhd? by the way i wish 8660 could handle the ati card, that's what i had planned to get , now it might be to expensive!
+ the ati is more energy friendly isn't it?
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Can't say I'm suprised, considering they weren't offering the cards in the other models.
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=( They pulled the free carrying case from the NP8660 as well. Not a deal breaker but still =( =(.
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can y'all give any information at all
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Is this a Sager thing or a Clevo thing?
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Justin@XoticPC Company Representative
This is a Clevo thing from what Sager has informed us.
I am sorry we dont have any information at this time on the details...
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So what's gonna happen to those who originally ordered a 9800m GT?
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Justin@XoticPC Company Representative
Nothing, they have the 9800M GT. (it was not one of the cards discontinued)
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lol, for me it is
, I'm being very serious. Eurocom didn't have the bag, so I'm like I won't order from them... now it's a toss up
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I, for 1, will trade my $25 gas card for a decent carrying case =P.
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Meh, They were inferior cards anyways
Now if the M860 isn't the gaming budget laptop of the year however, that's a problem (for me at least)... -
That's a little unfair, don't you think? Those who ordered a discontinued card will possibly get a discount or a free upgrade to the 9800m GT but those who originally chose it got screwed.
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It's interesting (/kind of funny) that you guys took four pages to come out and say that after beating around the bush for so long
But seriously, if you agreed to a price way back when, be happy with it. That's the way it goes sometimes.
See, be like him
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Justin@XoticPC Company Representative
Whats unfair? Those who wanted the 9800M GT are getting exactly what they ordered and paid for. Those who's budget wouldn't allow for the upgrade and ordered one of the recently discontinued cards, get it for free. (those that are inconvenienced with this update) -
So, you guys are angry that you're getting what you paid for? That's idiotic. Be happy you won't have to go through the process of ordering it again.
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So if I ordered a discontinued card, I would have gotten a free upgrade to the better video card which was a $165 value? That's really nice.
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I don't understand why you can't tell us the reason for all this.
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Justin@XoticPC Company Representative
^ If we had the information we would gladly provide it
We hope to have more details soon...
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What would you say Sager's turnover rate is for warranty use? It may be beneficial to give each customer that ordered at 9800GT a 1 year extension to the warranty and if they ordered a 3 year just discount 1 of the years.
If the notebook ends up having no problems, it doesn't go back to Sager and Sager isn't out the money used on parts and labor for the extended warranty period. -
Donald@Paladin44 Retired
Sager will upgrade all orders that have been placed for the 9800M GTS or the ATi 3870 with the 9800M GT at no cost.
Typical Sager integrity
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I have to agree that it is rather unfair. Perhaps those whom ordered before this announcement should get the 9800M GT free. Yes, free, regardless of their previous configurations (whether configured with a 9800GT or not).
It is true that those who ordered the lesser cards may have had budget issues but that doesn't exactly mean that those who ordered a better card and paid a premium for it wouldn't like to get their card free as well.
Just because I have more money doesn't mean I want to blow it while the next guy gets the same machine $165 cheaper.
Owning a Mercedes doesn't inhibit people from making trips to the dollar store now and then. -
wow that would make me very angry. I think all that ordered the GT should get at least something back for being willing to pay full price.
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Beautiful....makes me want to cancel my or......hold up....nah, I'm actually in a better position now.
But in all seriousness, great move guys. For those who haven't pre-ordered or ordered the 9800m GT already, this is just what is considered, luck of the draw.
Of course, inside information is always helpful too, if you have it. -
You guys want price matching, buy your laptop at bestbuy. They are fixing a issue which might have meant a complete loss of a laptop sale.
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Price matching... Didn't know companies didn't match THEIR OWN PRICE. -
Exactly, the assumption that those of us who ordered the 9800m GT originally were totally happy with the price we paid for it is ridiculous. Of course it's unfair that someone is getting the same thing as me for almost $200 cheaper and frankly, I will be canceling my order if that's the case.
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Don't like the service cancel your order then.
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Guys, don't get angry with Justin and Donald, this isn't their fault.
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Is the ATI 3870 eventually going to be offered with the NP5796 or NP9262? It's listed as an option for the NP5796 on Xoticpc's front page and it's listed on the specifications page for the NP5796 at Sager's website, but neither allows you to choose it in the configuration page.
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At this point, I'll just point out that bwhxeon does not represent any Sager retailer, so you'll be arguing with another user, not a retailer.
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LOL. Yeah its ok. I recognize his trolling.
The Sager NP8660 (M860TU) will only be offered with the nVIDIA GeForce 9800M GT w/512MB GDDR3...no ATi 3870 or GeForce 9800M GTS
Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Donald@Paladin44, Jul 23, 2008.