The beast has been unleashed (worlds fastest notebook)

All good. You misunderstood the whole concept of worlds fastest notebook. No worries. This seems to usually be the case. And since this laptop will not run any of the chips mentioned, it's still not going to be the worlds fastest in your eyes. I'll retract that last statement after it "actually" happens.

And let me reiterate yet again. Worlds fastest notebook is the "whole" notebook, not just the multi threaded operation of a few programs. It was pretty obvious that an 8 core cpu is faster in a multi threaded enviroment, but in a 4 cores or less environment, it's not. And that is at stock speeds and no over clocking. 2.ghz is not faster than 2.7 3.3 or 3.9. Im not sure how you might think it is. Your stuck on multi threaded apps only. We are also talking about the "rest" of the machine to be considered the worlds fastest.

Funny, but not even close. More of your your understanding of what worlds fastest means...is.

So, my opinion is this. This is not the worlds fastest notebook period.
And coming from the world of.."if you can't prove" then it isn't so.

 

in the red corner we have clevo and in the blue corner we have alienware.

ok gentleman no biting,gouging,groping

ding ding, round one

 

Nah, I was a Clevo owner first. Clevo D9262 from Rjtech.
And even if I had the same brand mentioned, I will still claim to have the fasted notebook (If is was proven so). Although I dont think I would go starting threads saying so or for breaking records for that matter.

 

Make that 2 x 680M X...

Chiphell

 

Now that is good news, if it pans out.

 

This is not the worlds fastest gaming notebook, but the M18X no matter how you clock it would get crushed in multi-threaded programs.

Both these machines compete in different arenas.

M18X - Gaming desktop replacement
570WM - Workstation desktop replacement

The 570WM can also give you a decent gaming experience, but not quite as well as the M18X, but if you had both powering external displays I doubt you could tell the difference.

 

Now at stock clocks, they are going to be about dead even on about 95 percent of the games out in the world today. The other 5 percent they will be back and forth) And if they are both running the same graphics card solutions. And the gaming experience will be enjoyable and on par with both machines. Just one has a better sticker price than the other.

Dont get me wrong, I have nothing against Clevo machines at all. Well, that 20 to 30 minute battery life is a serious problem for me. haha. Since I use my machine to repair networks/servers/raid setups and such. Always grabbing the power cord gets to be a bit much when moving from different cabnets in a data center.

 

LOL talk about overkill for the job

 

I think the logical fallacy here is that fastest means greatest. That's just my observation.

And it is overkill. Let's be honest here though, overkill is what got humanity where it is today. Though, I would benefit from this computer.

 

If that came in a mobile cpu version, I would be all over it!

 

NP9370 is basically that equivalent with mobile CPU. Just not 680MX... yet. Although easy enough to OC a 680m well beyond 680MX performance.

 

I need more cores, sir. Even a current generation dual core(even without virtual cores) would be better than what I have now.

I could unlock so many of my ideas with eight cores. Before anyone asks, no a GPGPU won't work for what I want to do. In fact, if I were to buy the P570WM I would get the lowest end graphics card because it is of no use to me.

 

That's not an 8 core / 16 thread cpu my friend.

 

This is the perfect ultimate laptop for gaming and mobility! I am thinking of getting either this or the Asus G series. hmm..

 

This is not the perfect laptop for gaming and mobility by any stretch.

This is the perfect laptop for raw power; such power will not be fully utilized by any game currently available, and comes at a pretty heavy cost—literally and figuratively.

The Asus G series is no where near the level of this computer; it is like comparing a Honda civic to an eighteen-wheeler truck.

 

But you said "if it came in a mobile CPU variant", that is what the P370EM is, a mobile CPU with dual video cards. Unless you meant a 6 or 8 core mobile CPU? Good luck finding those for another 5 years or so.

This is definitely not the perfect mobile gaming laptop. The P370EM is a good contender for that. Get an XM CPU + SLI 680m and you've got quite a powerful beast. I am having a hard time figuring out *what* the P570WM is. Other than needing a portable workstation for video rendering, I don't quite see its place in the universe. It has no real battery life use. You can build an SFPC that probably weighs the same and is just as portable with an external monitor. I used to lug around a Shuttle XPC with a 19" LCD using a dufflebag. Used all standard PC components, well except for the motherboard was proprietary. I'm really surprised this laptop doesn't accommodate traditional 5.25" drives.

 

Yes, that is what he means.

I have actually considered that. The Asus Rampage IV Gene gives, essentially, the same functionality as the P570WM's motherboard, but in a mATX form factor. The monitor is what really annoys me the most.

 

lol, he's only interested in overclocking. He likes to play the who has the bigger e-peen with his laptop.

Never ceases to be hilarious.

 

Yes, that would be a mobile 8 core cpu.

Your a funny guy. I bought this laptop for work and benching. Why? Because I can. Because I bench on a benching team. E-peening is your thing. Or bragging or what ever you like to call it. If i was doing that, i would be making a new thread every time i broke a record.
Sager NP150EM | i7-3610QM | 7970M GHZ Edition @ 1000/1375 | 95% NTSC Matte | 120GB Mushkin Atlas | 750 XT Hybrid | 16GB ADATA CL9 1600 @ 1.35v| Intel 6235
You people never cease to amaze me, it gets funnier every time. Then get caught in other threads crying over why my gpu does not run like his. Nvida vs AMD or Clevo Vs Alienware.I get far more work our of my laptop than you do playing games all day. And bragging about how fast your gpu is. And what is even funnier is, when I had my Clevo it was the same thing but in reverse. Oh brother!" "

 

There is probably a reason why johnksss have the highest benchmark score for any mobile SLI setup. He is #1 in the Hall of Fame in 3DMark. He knows his stuff

 

I can't even quote you properly because you maintain such high level of ambiguity in this sentence.

This laptop has nothing to do with gaming, even though it may be marketed that way. This laptop equally has nothing to do with overclocking, even though that would be awesome if even a mild overclock were possible.

This laptop, for me at the very least, is about pure raw power in a portable form factor.

 

Or deep pockets

 

It's not or, it's and.

You can't be the best without both

 

Not sure how this is being mixed up with being the "fastest" laptop in the world?

There is nothing wrong with this machine. Nothing at all, but that battery life. And that has always been a given for Clevo. I had one of the first high end machines, back in the days and that battery was the same then. 40 minutes.

Deep pockets? Benching is a very very expensive hobby when dealing with new products, but we also deal with a bunch of old stuff. Which is not so expensive.

 

Yes, no shame in pushing and benching what you have by any means and is usually of more practical use

 

Well in my case, bench and test is my work, i work for a CLEVO reseller. Which is cool, and i have the chance to try some crazy stuff from time to time. Had my share of burnt gfx cards, bricked motherboards, but hey it´s all in the name of development for our clients (or at least that´s what i say to my boss, actually i just want MORE FRAMES *joking*)

 

Neither do I.

It is similar to comparing torque to RPM.

That's awesome.

MORE CORES.

 

Oh how I wish I could be able to test hardware to its limit without having to worry about the money burnt away.
I guess you could always be fired if doing this while working for a reseller, but hey, one could always frame some customers for it or something.

"Ah I see. You played on too high settings dear customer. Always risky. Just look at what you did"

Poor customer would never be able to play on the highest settings in games anymore, but atleast it cleared my name...

 

HAHAHAHA That made me laugh really hard. Thank you!
Well i would never blame anyone, usually when i burn anything we laugh hard and add the component to our pile of shame. It´s fun really. I´m not in such a position that i could be fired for that, it´s my work.

Our testing is basically, what components work better, what ssd give less problems, how much overclock can we offer in a cpu or gfx card, which cpu can we sell for a specific model without having to worry about it being too much and probably the sucker will throttle, how can we upgrade the cooling system, what chassis design can we do to improve the cooling (this last one is top secret, nothing to see here), and so on.

If you like laptops this is a great job. I´m currently trying to test the P570WM, just wish i had more time, and i really want a extreme cpu which is not in stock, i´m trying to convince the company to get me one for testing (i know, its pure evil).

 

Are there still no games that take advantage of six core CPU's yet then, I take it highly clocked quad core processors are still king when it comes to gaming?

 

BF3 use more than 4 cores if im not mistaken.

Edit:
It uses all 8 threads. I just tested it right now.

 

Yes but you don't tend to get much execution on the HT threads in games to be honest, not enough difference in the resources each thread requires.

 

Sorry I meant are there any games that take advantage of hexa-core CPU's WITH hyperthreading i.e the 3930, 3960x etc? I'm guessing there's a few games that take advantage of quad core CPU's with hyper threading but it sounds like most games haven't really come to utilizing the full potential of newer gen CPU's yet

 

Yes. Battlefield 3 will take advantage of all 6 real cores.
So there is at least 1 game.

 

I don´t think that we can ever say that "this or that" is the fastest notebook, until we define what "fastest" mean.
What graphic cards have it (how much of "fast" means graphics)- what mass storage does it have (how much of "fast" means reading/ writing) - what ram has it - does it include overclocking - what screen resolutions we are talking about - what tests are we take to find out - how many percents to you give graphics, how many video rendering etc. You would have to create a standard- then you can measure it

Talking about six cores:
There wa an article on pcgameshardware.de from the middle of 2011 where you can read that already a lot games can use six cores:
Google Übersetzer
(I put it in a translator to English).

 

Ah ok, that's good to know

 

Is Clevo going to make a 18" gaming notebook?
My M570 is a bit too slow actually....

 

since the X8100 was discontinued weve all been waiting but hopefully one day they will release another 18"

 

.... I would like to get a machine wit 3 HDD bay but with 18" screen also.....
The problem regarding Alienware is that you are pushed to buy whole configuration the first time.... upgrade is not easy.
A raw Clevo with 18" (or 19") can be the best solution for me...... the better with 1920*1200 16:10 resolution.... Like the mine actually

 

i dont think we will ever see a 19" clevo and as far as i know theres nothing on the horizon for another 18" at the moment but that can change over night.

as far as i can remember about 3 or 4 years ago i was lucky enough to get my hands on the original prototype of the first clevo 18" at the gadget show in the UK. i spent all night uploading the first pictures of it on here and then it was a surprise to the majority of members as it was kept as a closely gaurded secret until about a week before we got our hands on it so as i said anything can happen.

 

OK 19" is too much....

but i really would like a good screen to make photo retouch as 1920*1200 IPS true 24bit or 30bit (a dream)
I'm using the notebook as desktop replacement.... the weight of 6Kg is not a problem....
SLI possibility (for me) is insane.....
The 3 HDD bay, on the contrary, are a useful feature. 1 HD for the system, 1 for programs other for data....
Also the 4 channel memory access is a big feature...

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/not...escreen-sli-notebook-packs-punch-holiday.html

20"..... looks like "the titanic" of monsterbook.....

20" with 1680 * 1050..... is not crappy?

 

i was just about to say how did i miss that one but it was from 2006 before i had heard of clevo.

 

You trying to take me down memory lane? Give it a resolution well above 1920x1080 and decent cooling and I could still see a market for such machines.

 

exactly..... follow the max graphic performance is not a must over all.....

It can be better if you can have a good system for several different application .... with a good screen resolution for digital imaging management .

maybe dreams.... just dreams