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    The fastest CPU for D900C/D901C

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by foxy_lady, Feb 7, 2008.

  1. foxy_lady

    foxy_lady Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi,

    I saw a past thread, they said as follows...
    "D900C just can equip Core 2 Extreme QX6850, but very short life." :(

    Q6700/X6800/E6850 is supported by Clevo. Which is the fastest CPU of these? I chose X6800, coz I like name of the "Extreme". :D
    Then, I hit on that D901C can equip Quad-Core Extreme CPU.

    Q6700 is Kentsfield core. Then, QX6850 as Kentsfield-XE core can be equipped???

    Of course, Q6700's TDP is 95W, and QX6850's TDP is 130W. This CPU maybe exceed the D901C's capacity...

    Is there a brave man who did this challenge?
    When my PC in the order reached now. I also challenge.
    I'm determining that it is a short life. I pursue an extreme performance to the last.

    Please tell me when there is a person who is using faster CPU.
     
  2. foxy_lady

    foxy_lady Notebook Enthusiast

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    By the way, I'm using TOSHIBA Qosmio F40 now.
    I ordered D901C Phantom-X to EUROCOM.
    I look forward to the shipment.
     
  3. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    for processing power.... the Q6700 is currently the fastest (for multi-threaded apps/games)
     
  4. Fade To Black

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    Stick to the current CPU generation in the D901C. Don't try anything new as it will probably not work and cause problems. Let Clevo update the notebook for the new CPUs to be supported.
    And yes, Q6700 is the fastest in multi-threaded applications.
     
  5. foxy_lady

    foxy_lady Notebook Enthusiast

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    hum... If mluti-threaded applications, Q6700 is the fastest?
    Q6700 is 2.66GHz, and X6800 is 2.93GHz. Quad-core has advantage more than high clock?
    However, my apps/games seems not to be a MultiThreading...

    I found a German man who challenged QX6850 into D901C. I have something coz about his PC.
    The load to the motherboard is anxious, coz it jumps up so that TDP is almost twice as much.
    To begin with, does the system start...?
     
  6. sp@nky

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    Yea Schenker has been advertising the QX6850 in a D901C for a while.
    Beside being weary of the deal since "no one" esle is proposing this, the cost is $$$ for their systems. A config I had elsewhere for about 4000 was over 5000 there.

    Anyway, it seems the D901C can run with the QX6850 :eek: just found a review:
    http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Schenker-mySN-D901C-Clevo-D901C.6950.0.html
    in english no less ;)
     
  7. Fade To Black

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    Yes, but it's still their laptop.
     
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    sp@nky Notebook Enthusiast

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    yea, I should have written I "was" weary, still to much dough though.
    But now I'm considering such a the build up from an RJTech barebone....
     
  9. Fade To Black

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    Yeah, but if you want newer CPUs I suggest you wait a big before Intel releases them on the market (and actually can buy them) and Clevo brings it's laptop up to date.
     
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    Oh thanks, I really found this PC.

    But Clevo is not announcing that is supported Kentsfield-XE.
    Or, as Clevo originally supported FSB1333MHz, they maybe customized motherboard...?

    The maximum doubt that I have is whether the system can be started by installing QX6850. Otherwise, PC might not start coz BIOS cannot accept QX6850.

    Anyway, D901C that has Quad-Core Extreme is to really there.
     
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    Clevo didn't make a BIOS just for Schenker (which is minor compared to Sager) and these new CPUs aren't really available.
     
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    Thank you for advice. really that' right.

    However, I'm afraid that I have not time. I'm wishin' "Extreme Performance" even if it is unwarranted.
    I will accept all own risk.
     
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    so... Their D901C has different Motherboard? It will be a fake surely...? :swoon:
     
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    No, it doesn't have a different motherboard. It's the same as in all Clevos. Maybe they just modded the BIOS to support it.
     
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    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Not really, particularly if that's the score for the machine in the review. Apparently, a 9262 with an authorized processor, and 8800's in SLi, can get all 5.9's in WEI, as reported here. Since 8800 SLi will be out soon (end of this month), you'd be better off getting an approved processor with 8800 in SLi. All of this is, of course, more or less beside the point since WEI is not a bench-mark in the first place, let alone a reliable bench-mark.

    By the way, if you're really looking for performance, I doubt if you'll get the best out of that machine since it's only running NVidia 8700's in SLi, not 8800's (of course not, since SLi 8800's aren't out yet :rolleyes: ).

    That suggests that the OEM (Schenkar, is it?) has taken the previous version of the motherboard (i.e., pre-8800) and monkeyed with it (and the BIOS) in order to get a QX6850 to "operate" in a 9261 (I say "operate" in only the technical sense, since who knows how long that thing'll be stable :confused2: ). In particular, unless Shenker has a really deep R&D side (or the engineers they hired to mod the BIOS do), the modded BIOS probably wasn't given a really good shake-down and thus there's no way to tell if the mods to the BIOS were done properly, or if they introduced a nasty little bug that won't show up until much later and at the worst possible moment.

    So, if you get that system, you're probably getting a system that (a) cannot be upgraded to the 8800's, either singly or in SLi, (b) runs a real risk of cooking itself, or of being unstable in the long run, and (c) will not receive any sort of support from the actual manufacturer - the ODM - Clevo since Shenker's modifications will have voided Clevo's warranty and, in any event, Clevo will not have the slightest idea what's going on with the modified BIOS Shenker undoubtedly stuck in there.

    Now, even if the system runs stable (I assume everyone recalls the hullaballoo when Eurocom and PCMicroworks jumped the gun on putting quad-cores into a Clevo 9620 the last time around), and even if the modified BIOS doesn't produce any hiccups, you should keep in mind that you'll probably still be limited to GPUs no higher than the 8700's. Since most performance boosts in graphics-intensive environments come from GPU improvements, not CPU speeds, that means that the Shenker invention is already yesterday's news - in a graphics-intensive application, it will probably never be able to outperform an ordinary 9262 with 8800s in SLi.

    I don't know about you, but, particularly given the pricing premium they've added in, this seems to be a classic case of penny-wise/pound-foolish. But, that's just me. :D
     
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    Schenker does have 8800M support for their laptop.
     
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    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Fair enough - I stand corrected (gosh but I'm beginning to like the taste of shoe-leather :eek2: ); just goes to show what you get when you try to do too many things at once - I'll leave the original post up as a monument to my own adorable stupidity :confused: , unless one of the moderators thinks it better to put that bit of silliness out of its misery.
     
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    Never mind that. However, Clevo doesn't have support (at least they're the only ones that offer it), so I'm guessing a modded BIOS.
     
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    hmm... Now is the time to confession.

    The beginning was trifling. A woman who had talked on MSN messenger with me said, "You use foolish notebook?" by the derision. She is desktop PC user and looking down on the notebook PC. Though, she is a madam of 31 years old. I'm 24. The notebook that I'm using is TOSHIBA F40 now.(Core2Duo [email protected], 2GB RAM, GeForce 8600M GT) She is using desktop PC that has Core2Duo [email protected]. Her PC recorded the benchmark score my twice. I looked for the notebook that can win her PC.
    Then, I reached to CLEVO.

    I spent all budgets that I can have and I ordered D901C to EUROCOM. Core2Extreme X6800, 4GB RAM, and SLI 8800M GTX.

    I wanna have her renew recognition. She said, "After all, it might be a notebook computer no matter how it held out".
    It's secret in her that I try to buy D901C.
    She maybe not know the desktop replacement.

    However, it is existence of E6850 that threatens me. It's a price lower than the half of X6800. The another important reason that I chose X6800 is changeable clock ratio. Therefore, I wanna use Core2Extreme.

    A main purpose of my PC is an animation edit, drawing, and 3D game. Multi-Core or High Speed Clock, I hesitate...

    I think that Core2Extreme QX6850 become one answer. is it?
     
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    If you want to win all notebooks and 99% of desktops in a CPU performance... get a Core 2 Quad Q6700.

    It will beat any dual core in multimedia rendering/editing/converting... especially if you are using the latest software (which are multi-threaded to fully utilize the quad-core).

    Look at the wPrime Hall of Fame here for the differences:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=123570

    As you can see, the quad-cores beat all the rest easily.
     
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    The Q6850 is great indeed, but I am not sure if it is currently supported by Clevo. Check with some resellers.
     
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    at the moment, only recommend to get Q6700 (w/ G0 stepping)
     
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    Yeah, but that one is faster. Also, Penryn is close.