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    Thinking about getting one of those delid tools...

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Mikki79, Dec 24, 2016.

  1. Mikki79

    Mikki79 Notebook Guru

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    Just wondering if it's a good or dumb idea. Sure I know you can do it manually but there is no way I'm starting to mess around with any razors. My 6700K runs so absurdly hot it would probably gain a lot from it. Can always sell the tool afterwards. (didn't actually know these things existed).

    If I'd buy one I'd probably get the delid die mate (by der8auer), the rockit 88 is actually more expensive if you order it from Europe because of taxes that aren't mentioned when you order it. (read some posts by people who had ordered it from Europe, who thought they were getting a cheaper product)

    Of course it voids the warranty but I've never had a CPU die within the warranty period anyway (or at all). And it will probably last longer afterwards since it'll run cooler. GPUs are a different story, they've all died sooner or later.

    Also if I do it what's better? Liquid Ultra or that newer Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut? I also found a shop in Finland that does sell IC Diamond, actually a shop I've used a lot. https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Show/108833/900100490/n-a-innovation-cooling-diamond-7-carat-1_5g
     
  2. EmberV

    EmberV Notebook Evangelist

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    There is a 3D printable delid tool if you or a friend that a 3D printer. You could also commission someone local through 3D Hubs.
     
  3. Mikki79

    Mikki79 Notebook Guru

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    I don't know anyone with a 3D printer unfortunately. And it doesn't look quite as safe either since it's not fully closed. Looks like the PCB could possibly bend or pop out of it, which would probably be quite disastrous.
     
  4. EmberV

    EmberV Notebook Evangelist

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    @Mikki79 I've delidded two processors with the tool with no issue. The PCB fits very snug into that section.
     
  5. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Basically it's a confidence thing, if you are not sure you can buy the tool and do it.
     
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    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    use Liquid Ultra between the CPU die and the IHS. Then use IC Diamond between the IHS and the heatsink for maximum contact/coverage using the X Cross method:

    The X Cross method is the best in my experience as once the heatsink is fitted, it provides the maximum coverage with the least air bubbles

    [​IMG]

     
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    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    highly recommended, cheap, great build quality (got one myself): http://rockitcool.myshopify.com/
     
  8. Mikki79

    Mikki79 Notebook Guru

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    I did look at that one but It actually turns out more expensive than the "delid die mate" if you live in Europe. Turns out you have to pay some extra taxes or import costs that aren't mentioned when you buy it. At least according to some comments I read on their page.
     
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    even with import tax the rockit 88 is cheaper than the delid die mate

    example for shipping to Germany:

    Delid Die Mate incl. shipping = 53.89 € (49.99 € + 3.90 € shipping)

    Rockit 88 = 28 $ + 10 $ international shipping = 38 $ + 19 % import tax = 38 $ + 7.22 $ = 45.22 $ converted to Euro (current rate) = 43.27 €

    thats 43.27 / 53.89 - 100 % = 20 % cheaper than the delid die mate ;) and that is after TWO price drops on the die mate after its original introduction to market :D
     
  10. Mikki79

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    Well I'm from Finland, I found a page with what it should cost to get it here. http://www.tulli.fi/en/persons/customs_clearance/.

    So according to that page it would cost me...

    38$ + 12% (customs duties) = 42,56$
    42,56$ + 24% (VAT) = 52,77$ which is 50.5€

    So, it's still a bit cheaper I suppose, but not that much. I think there is less hassle getting the "delid die mate" in my case. Shorter distance, and I shouldn't get any additional "surprise" costs.

    There was one guy who claimed it ended up costing him 80€ but he was probably exaggerating a "bit". The comment was on the kickstarter page https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/119374257/rockit-88-intel-cpu-delid-tool/comments.

    One guy called "Jukka" also wrote that his delid tool was stuck in the customs,... and that name sounds kinda Finnish to me :) I don't want to take any extra chances just to save 3€ or so.
     
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  11. TBoneSan

    TBoneSan Laptop Fiend

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    +1 for the Rockit 88. I've delidded 3 chips without a problem. One of the best tools I've purchased.
     
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