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    Thinking about picking up some ram pre-emptively.

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Thaenatos, Apr 5, 2014.

  1. Thaenatos

    Thaenatos Zero Cool

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    I have it... but I find best overclock potential with the Samsung 1.35v, but I think it's only available in 4GB modules. I overclocked the Samsung to 2400MHz. Haven't bothered with the Crucial because there was really no incentive or reason to do so. There's little to no improvement. Sure the system "seemed" to respond a bit faster, but nothing substantial.
     
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    Yeah the timings out of the box are pretty darn nice! I have read somewhere that haswell is limited to 1866mhz but then again my sources may be off. Eitherway the 1600 that ships with the system seems to limit haswell chips with the new memory interface I read up on recently. Ill probably keep the ram stock for a while, but Im toying with OCing in the future to extend the machine out a bit farther. Just never used crucial before but glad they have a good rep always used gskill, geil, kingston.
     
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    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    Nope, as long as the BIOS supports it you can push all the way up to 2400. Haven't had any luck pushing further, probably due to a combination of the IMC crapping out (it is only "officially" rated for 1600 after all) and 1.35v just not cutting it at those clocks. And yeah those Samsung chips are beasts, got really lucky with a GSkill kit (which uses Samsung chips) and was able to run 2400 CL11.

    Corsair has the only 16GB 2133 kit on the market right now. Some of those sticks can run 2400 with slightly loosened timings if you're lucky, but don't bank on it. Although if you're not chasing numbers that might be the kit to get.
     
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    isnt 8 gigs of ram enough?
     
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    No. Im a power user and even some games (COD ghosts) use enough ram to make 8GB reach near its limits. 16GB is good 32GB is excessive but would be neat. Ill likely pick these up in the near future hopefully...
     
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    Any 1866mhz branded ram will do, get the cheapest.
     
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    32GB is not excessive if you use a lot of VM's. Of course this is very user specific. I have 8GB in my current computer and it isn't nearly enough. I went ahead and sprung for 32GB because money wasn't an issue and I didn't want to mess with it later.
     
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    Thaenatos Zero Cool

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    I figure I'll grab 16 for now which will do for my tasks and wait on the other 16gb. Im ocd about my ram so I might not wait to fill the slots.

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    yeah, sometimes i feel like 16 gb is not enough for me, when opera with 200+ tabs is open, vm is running, and 6 gb par2 set is being created. no room for some heavy games left :)
     
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    I've never found RAM clocks/timings to really help much in games, they can also pretty much always be overclocked, so the money is probably better spent on a newer CPU or GPU, or simply cheaper RAM, and more of it.
     
  12. n=1

    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    Faster ram only helps if you're running off iGPU, which you won't be doing if you have a dGPU anyway.

    I will say that going from 1600 to 1866 seemed to make the system snappier. And according to Corsair, faster ram speeds up encoding, so if you do heavy encoding then faster ram might be worthwhile.
     
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    The CPU will be able to use up to 1866mhz to remove edge cases where memory can impact performance.
     
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    Well I got the crucial ram with good timing for a nice price and I may see about another 16gb down the road.

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    Usually the best way to go, get two high capacity sticks and leave room if you find you need more later.
     
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    Question for you guys. I was thinking about the 8268/78 and just rolling with 2 sticks of 8gb ram. Down the road I would probably update to 32gb when the price is right. Can the clevo 170sm-a handle 2 slots @ 16gb so it uses less power? Or is it beat to just buy 4 8's down the road?

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    It is my understanding that it can only handle 4 8gb sticks, and not 2 16gb sticks.

    In fact, I haven't even seen 16gb sticks for laptops.
     
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    pukemon are you unplugged?

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    Oh yeah. But I am sure it will happen in a year or two.

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    But I doubt Clevo will go back to update the bios of "year or two" old laptops. Just sayin...
     
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    pukemon are you unplugged?

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    You're right.. Forgot about that. But there has been occasions where slots or total memory exceeded clevo's advertised spec's. Seeing as there aren't 16gb laptop modules yet I guess we won't find out til there are.

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    Honestly unless you need it now Id hold off. The only reason I would get 2 more 8GB sticks is because Im OCD. Im also not worried too much about battery life with 3 hard drives and lots of things running. I was able to get 3 hours with doing some driver tweaking and surfing which for what I have is amazing and more then enough for my battery needs and thats with 2 sticks at 8GB. As for 16GB sticks I doubt they will come out anytime soon for laptops and when they do they will be extremely expensive and Im sure with a modded bios they may work in these machines, but if I need 64GB of ram then Ill be far exceeding the rest of the hardware at that point and would build a desktop. Just my $.02
     
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    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    None of Intel's processors up to this point will even support 16GB sticks, apparently due to some flaw in their architecture that Intel never bothered to rectify.
     
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    It's not a flaw as such, it simplified the memory controller, it was a design decision.
     
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    pukemon are you unplugged?

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    Ah well, I was only curious mainly because of battery life. My laptops have never been that mobile but it'd always nice to think ahead for stuff like this. I don't even really need 16gb anytime soon. I was just planning on buying 2x16 or 4x8 when the prices hit commodity prices. They're a little bit pricey right now. Hopefully when maxwell hits the street full throttle prices will have come down more. I'd rather all 32gb now if the price is right but was just gonna get 2x8 which would be fine for a year or two.

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    Unless you have specific needs 16Gb is overkill enough to last a long time.