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    Trying to Solve np8662 overheating problem

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by CuriousN, Jul 6, 2009.

  1. CuriousN

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    I think a good way to keep the np8662's harddrive cool would be turning it off when its not in use. The turn off after X minutes of inactivity power option doesn't work, because the hard drive is usually in use. Is there a way to configure Vista so that the harddrive is only used when I need it, and turned off otherwise.
     
    CuriousN, Jul 6, 2009
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  2. Kevin

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    You could try turning drive indexing off.


    What kind of temps are you reaching, and which HDD do you have?
     
    Kevin, Jul 6, 2009
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    i've done that, as well as defragmenting, and superfetch
    right now its 56 C
    its more of an annoyance than a problem.
    i have the hitachi 7200RPM 320GB drive
     
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  4. Kevin

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    So is 56C the max, or the average? My HDD tops out at 55C. These new Seagates are cool customers.
     
    Kevin, Jul 6, 2009
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  5. CuriousN

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    it was my temp after writing emails and surfing the web for a few hours
    i had a seagate before--the hitachi seems a bit better
     
    CuriousN, Jul 6, 2009
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    whats the temperature in your house. that could have something to do with it.
     
    MrDJ, Jul 7, 2009
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  7. CuriousN

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    room temperature 24 C or so
    i know, the laptop definetely gets cooler when room temp is cooler
    but thats a different solution.
    im trying to figure out how to turn the harddrive off when I'm not using it
     
    CuriousN, Jul 7, 2009
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  8. CuriousN

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    does windows need to have constant access to the hdd to run?
     
    CuriousN, Jul 8, 2009
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    I also have the Hitachi drive and it is warm. But I have no air conditioning in the apartment and in the last few weeks, the temperature in the room was reaching above 30C :O
    At that point, my HDD temp after transferring a lot of files for a very long time topped out at about 59-60C. Considering the environment in which it is being used, I consider it to be quite cool. I dont think you really need to worry about the temps until it goes above 65C, Im not an expert but I did more than my share of reading about this as I was concerned.
    So dont worry about it, just enjoy your lappy :)
     
    potentv, Jul 9, 2009
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  10. CuriousN

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    im not worried about the hdd crashing. the laptop just isn't comfortable to use when the right palmrest gets hot. besides a 1600+ laptop shouldn't have such problems.
     
    CuriousN, Jul 9, 2009
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    install intel matrix storage manager
     
    icehell, Jul 9, 2009
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    Would this fix the hot palm rest and control Hot HDD temps?
     
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    you will feel hotness in palm rest when HD temp. reach 45C and its not acceptable.

    yes intel matrix will decrease HD temp. by 3 degrees, and inturn will decrease palm rest temp.

    its normal during gaming to hot up but it also depend on your room temp.

    my room temp. now in summer about 28C and my HD temp. during net surf is 42C.
     
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  14. CuriousN

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    is intel matrix storage manager a driver?
    or does it actually let you manage hdd activity?
     
    CuriousN, Jul 9, 2009
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    Intel Matrix Storage updates the SATA controller driver and provides support for software RAID.
     
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    it just runs in the background and should lower your temp. by 3-4c

    download it from HERE
     
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  17. CuriousN

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    is there any kind of software that tells how the hdd is being used?
     
    CuriousN, Jul 9, 2009
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    ........................................................................
    just get a cooler can liao

     
    harky, Jul 9, 2009
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    Could get an SSD drive to replace the hdd. they run very cool.
     
    laststop311, Jul 10, 2009
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    Except they're ridiculously expensive.
     
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    Price aside, do the actually help it run cooler?
    Has anyone tried it out on one yet?
    Just don't want sweaty hands all over my laptop..lol :D
     
    IKAS V, Jul 10, 2009
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    Cooler? Not much. Just a higher heat tolerance.
     
    shadowfox952, Jul 10, 2009
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    So basically the touchpad area and palm rest will still be hot, that sort of defeats the purpose of SSD.
    Blazing read and right speed's aside they are not to attractive for the money they are going for..."sigh"
     
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    It's new technology. Remember back when USB flash memory was like $40 for 1GB, which was considered massive? Now 16gigs sell for less than $15 in many places, less than $1 for the same size drive.
     
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    Yes an SSD will run cooler!

    An SSD generates no heat aside from the (smaller amount) of voltage it consumes.

    A mechanical HDD consumes more electricity (more heat) and generates more heat from it's motor drive that spins the platters.
     
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  26. Kevin

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    Once the 256GB SSD hits $150, I'll jump into the solid state game.
     
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    Ditto, with the 500GB using smartbay adapter - gotta keep the song library around. :D
     
    Oiad, Jul 10, 2009
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    It would make sense to work that way, but maybe the one I had was just faulty.
     
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    I read around here that some SSDs are actually hotter. In a conventional HDD the only part that generates heat is the motor, while in the SSD every single chip is generating heat.
     
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    Yeah, I was reading into that a bit the other day.

    Bottom line is that:
    some SSDs use more peak power then some HDDs do so are hotter during peak use.
    some SSDs use more average power over time then some HDDs do (particularly those with multiple controllers I understand)
    some SSDs use more idle power then some HDDs do so are hotter when not in use.
    some SSDs blow all HDDs out of the water when it comes to power/heat/battery.
    ​
    So if you are concerned about heat/power/battery it pays to research a bit.
     
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  31. CuriousN

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    i found this post on how to see what is using the hdd


    Link:
    http://forums.hexus.net/operating-sy...ml#post1228329

    Re: Vista -Loads of Hard Drive Activity
    Vista Tip:
    Right-click the task bar, click Task Manager
    Switch to the Performance tab, click Resource Monitor (UAC prompt as this is an admin task)
    (Close Task Manager)
    In Resource Monitor, expand the Disk section

    Here you can see the most recently accessed files, which process instigated the I/O, the process' I/O priority, the response time, bytes/min read and written.
    Very handy when looking at performance issues without needing to fire up PerfMon.


    I would like to turn everything that I won't need off. how to start?
     
    CuriousN, Jul 11, 2009
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    Control panel>>>administrative tools>>>>>>>services>>>>>>>Disable program you like to stop.

    can you mention your
    room temp.
    disable all security ( firewall,antivirus,update)
    intel matrix storage
    restart >>>>>> wait 30 min.>>>>during ..do ordinary work...no gaming


    Report your HD,CPU,GPU Temp. here for evaluation.
     
    icehell, Jul 11, 2009
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  33. CuriousN

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    ok, i have these processes accessing the hdd. which one to kill? also what is response time?



    Image PID File Read (B/min) Write (B/min) IO Priority Response Time (ms)
    firefox.exe 1040 C:\Users\Nikita\AppData\Local\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\uoiwqnzy.default\Cache\_CACHE_001_ 32768 0 Normal 25
    firefox.exe 1040 C:\Users\Nikita\AppData\Local\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\uoiwqnzy.default\Cache\_CACHE_002_ 32768 0 Normal 16
    firefox.exe 1040 C:\Users\Nikita\AppData\Local\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\uoiwqnzy.default\Cache\_CACHE_003_ 65536 0 Normal 11
    System 4 C:\Users\Nikita\AppData\Local\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\uoiwqnzy.default\Cache\D3C79DA9d01 0 6028850 Normal 2
    System 4 C:\Users\Nikita\AppData\Local\Temp\flaA5AF.tmp 0 6120613 Normal 2
    System 4 C:\Users\Nikita\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\uoiwqnzy.default\sessionstore.js 0 33280 Normal 1
    firefox.exe 1040 C:\Users\Nikita\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\uoiwqnzy.default\places.sqlite-journal 0 221184 Normal 1
    System 4 C:\Users\Nikita\AppData\Local\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\uoiwqnzy.default\Cache\_CACHE_003_ 0 57344 Normal 1
    System 4 C:\$LogFile (NTFS Volume Log) 0 189059 Normal 1
    System 4 C:\$Mft (NTFS Master File Table) 0 24560 Normal 1
    firefox.exe 1040 C:\$LogFile (NTFS Volume Log) 0 450560 Normal 1
    System 4 C:\Users\Nikita\AppData\Local\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\uoiwqnzy.default\Cache\_CACHE_001_ 0 12288 Normal 0
    System 4 C:\Users\Nikita\AppData\Local\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\uoiwqnzy.default\Cache\631F2512d01 0 19456 Normal 0
    svchost.exe (LocalServiceNetworkRestricted) 640 C:\Windows\ServiceProfiles\LocalService\AppData\Local\lastalive1.dat 0 512 Normal 0
    firefox.exe 1040 C:\Users\Nikita\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\uoiwqnzy.default\places.sqlite 0 200704 Normal 0
     
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    its normal

    can you do the tasks i mentioned in previous post?
     
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    i thought about using readyboost or eboostr to reduce hdd usage and make it run cooler. does anyone know how well this would work?
     
    CuriousN, Aug 6, 2009
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    Mini hijack: is it normal for my hdd to have a max of 56C playing crysis for an hour and go 61C+ when defragmenting or even just extracting/installing programs??

    Intel matrix storage drivers are installed and it stabilizes at 52C, even when the beginning temp is 32C.
     
    Sku11Drag0n, Aug 7, 2009
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    Also, are you on High Performance or Balanced?
     
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    same as mine and all is fine. defrag or virus scan can up temps to 61c and 50-52c is fine for every day use.
     
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    how does power saver lower hdd temp? decrease rpm?
     
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    Taken from here. http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5156387&postcount=603

     
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